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Old 31st October 2012, 08:35 PM   #11
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Not all old amplifiers sounded good or were build well!!!. Before I went into DIY amps I had a Marantz 2238B receiver, I checked inside and it was very well build. But today, thanks to the help of many very smart members here that helps us to build some amps that will put on shame of most of those good old amplifiers and new good commercial ones too. What I like really like about some old gears is the look of some amplifiers and receivers, especially the brushed aluminum faces, aluminum knobs, blue lights and meters. I know it is just cosmetic, but I like it. Nothing wrong with that
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Old 31st October 2012, 09:02 PM   #12
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i have seen many talk about the vintage Marantz 170DC or Pioneer 1980 etc

what is so unique of those amps that someone cant build such stuff these days?

I have even seen ceramic and mylar caps in those which are generally not encouraged in audio ckt.

but why does they sound that great that one eventually calling me many times that do you have any old amp like them....

we can get better toroidal these days better caps but whats wrong...

i sometime see the polystyrene capacitors in the old amps is that one of the strong reasons why they sound good?
ofcourse design is one aspect but example...

people say Rotel was good few decades ago but now its not as good as old...

i understand the cost and features competetions but is there anything apart from that what makes them so unique...
The isn't anything better about them, they are worse. People are weird in HiFi it's the reason we still have valve amps. Some people just can't move on...
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Old 31st October 2012, 10:09 PM   #13
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Not all old amplifiers sounded good or were build well!!!. Before I went into DIY amps I had a Marantz 2238B receiver, I checked inside and it was very well build. But today, thanks to the help of many very smart members here that helps us to build some amps that will put on shame of most of those good old amplifiers and new good commercial ones too. What I like really like about some old gears is the look of some amplifiers and receivers, especially the brushed aluminum faces, aluminum knobs, blue lights and meters. I know it is just cosmetic, but I like it. Nothing wrong with that
I can fix just about anything on just about any 70s Japanese amp or receiver and restore it to like new, but I'm a long way from being smart enough to design and build the circuitry for an all new amp. Of course, aside from McIntosh, just about the only vintage amps/receiver I care for are Japanese.

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Old 31st October 2012, 10:13 PM   #14
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I know one reason beside nostalgia. Power Supplies. The old amps had 'em, the new ones only kinda wish they did. Heavy, brother, heavy.

The big, silver knobs is another reason to like the old stuff. And cool VU meters.
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Old 31st October 2012, 10:37 PM   #15
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Default They are good in many ways

This is the reason why..they are good..very good.

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kids can't handle smd, to tiny for their still learing hands.

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Old 31st October 2012, 11:35 PM   #17
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As an oversimplified example, ...Open up a vintage Marantz 2275 receiver........then open up a current 5, seven channel Name brand receiver.
Hmm, you know what would LOOK good inside a 2275? A TDA1541A PCB board...

Just throwing that out there for some people to ponder.
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I have a hard time finding the words to express how much I despise SMDs.
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Thumbs down SMDs

I soon as I see SMDs...I just shake my head! I guess these days We see them more and more.
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Old 1st November 2012, 12:25 AM   #20
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I think its all about nostalgia.

And SMDs - I don't have an issue, I've used them for DIY. I use the largish ones. It's very much easier for me. The pcb has no holes to drill when I make it. No leads to bend and fiddle with, just drop the part on and solder it. Not much solder, less fumes. Fast to build. What's not to like.
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