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tiefbassuebertr 29th July 2012 06:23 PM

Line-up (Overview) of Vintage Receiver Models with AC Speaker Output (not DC) wanted
 
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I am looking for an URL, where are listed all vintage stereo AM/FM receiver so as vintage integrated amps/power amps, which have no DC coupled (resp. no direct coupled) loudspeaker outputs (i. e. a serial capacitor between output and speaker terminal).
Serial capacitors are in use more like in older models, the newer ones have often been changed to symmetrical voltage suooly and direct coupled speaker output. An example is the Marantz 2230 (AC coupled output) and its successor 2230B with DC output (see attachment)
Pioneer, Kenwood, Sansui and much others really should also have such devices built. The SX300 is an additional example - have a look to the pics from
http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-84-11738.html
The great advantage is the possibility, to replace the caps in series to the speakers against precisely tailored values for getting best sonic results in the lower frequency aera (also in order to the corresponding loudspeaker allocation - e. g. sometimes near by the wall and sometimes not) and the absence of serial contacts from relays for DC protect. This is not easy to reach with DC speaker outputs.

Who can send me an advice for such URLs??
in the attachment you will find another example from the Marantz 1060
Thank you for your advices.

Tekko 29th July 2012 06:28 PM

Akai AA810, most if not all Luxor stereos, Luma.

tiefbassuebertr 13th December 2012 05:23 PM

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Akai AA810, most if not all Luxor stereos, Luma.

thank you.
There must be much more models - here an example:
CA202 Nytech post #10
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid...chematics.html

Typical power amp topology:
Black Devil (Gerhard Haas, ELRAD, Experience Electronics) post #39
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid...ematics-4.html

Please let me know more - thank you

jerluwoo 14th December 2012 01:09 AM

Many of the old Marantz 22XXb models used output capacitors and were some fine sounding amps. Example being 2215b. Marantz 2215B | Owners Manual, Service Manual, Schematics, Free Download | HiFi Engine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/DSCN7357.jpg

TANDBERGEREN 14th December 2012 01:35 AM

TANDBERG TR1000 series is a good example. Also the tiny good TR200. But I believe You want som pictures too?
Well, if I get the time I will provide such.

wahab 14th December 2012 01:45 AM

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My (quite old) Sansui 800.....:)

Orit 14th December 2012 08:34 AM

And then I would like to remind of that particular configuration used by Grundig for the RTV350/360/370/380 receivers in the late sixties. Those were not hifi (less than 10 watts per channel) but for background home music and were installed in wooden radiograms.

In those sets, the capacitor is between the output center and ground, and the speakers are connected directly between the collector of the "upper" transistor and ground.
In this configuration, a separate secondary, rectifier and reservoir capacitor was needed for each channel.

The advantage for all this complication seems to be avoidance of power-on and power-off thumps.

tiefbassuebertr 14th December 2012 08:35 AM

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My (quite old) Sansui 800.....:)

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Originally Posted by TANDBERGEREN (Post 3283870)
TANDBERG TR1000 series is a good example. Also the tiny good TR200. But I believe You want som pictures too?
Well, if I get the time I will provide such.

Thank you.
Tandberg TR-200 overhaul | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Tandberg TR-1000 - garmonizer - Photo.Qip.ru / id: val
I have save some images from "hard to find" Grundig' RTV250 from already deleted auction URLs (found by google image search).
The Grundig RTV350 was those device, where I have first time listening stereo sound (a radio play by a German radio station - NDR if I recall right in the year 1967). It was very interesting to hear, as a train from left to right drove past.

tiefbassuebertr 2nd January 2013 06:52 PM

Harman-Kardon 330A, 330B
 
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Harman-Kardon 330A, 330B (and not speaker DC coupled 330C)
Le forum Audio Vintage • Afficher le sujet - Harman-Kardon 330B
Harman Kardon Stereo Receiver Model 330A
http://www.harmankardon.com/resource...ual/330BOM.PDF
HARMAN KARDON 330B SM Service Manual free download, schematics, eeprom, repair info for electronics
Harman Kardon 330C restoration - AudioKarma.org Home Audio Stereo Discussion Forums

tiefbassuebertr 2nd January 2013 07:03 PM

Heed Integrated Amplifier "Obelisk" series (Nytech, ION)
 
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http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid...52-woes-5.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid...n-obelisk.html
6moons audio reviews: Heed Audio Obelisk Series Trio
The noble HEED Obelisk Owners Society, Verstärker/Receiver - HIFI-FORUM (Seite 12)
Heed Audio kuvia
Help with choosing new amp & cd player for Epos M12.2 speakers - Page 2
Heed

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid...ml#post3067818
Recapping of Nytech CPA 602 - pink fish media
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid...p-request.html


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