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Old 6th April 2012, 11:06 AM   #71
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My experience with Capacitive Multipliers has been disappointing.

I would recommend a decent CRCRC circuit rather than a C.M.

The impedance of the C.M. is quite high and can affect the frequency response of the amplifier.
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Old 6th April 2012, 11:19 AM   #72
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Pd = Pmax * [Tmax - Tc] / [Tmax - T25]
using Pmax = 120W
Tmax = 150°C
Tc = Ts + 15Cdegrees = 70+15 = 85°C

The maximum power of the 3055 with a 70°C heatsink interface temperature is de-rated to ~ 120 ~ 65 / 125 = 62W.

Running the hottest part of the heatsink @ ~70°C effectively reduces your 3055 to a 62W device. Then you must de-rate for second breakdown at all the higher Vce imposed on the 3055.

Some 3055 have a Pmax of 90W @ Tc=25C.
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Old 6th April 2012, 11:40 AM   #73
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My experience with Capacitive Multipliers has been disappointing.

I would recommend a decent CRCRC circuit rather than a C.M.

The impedance of the C.M. is quite high and can affect the frequency response of the amplifier.
My experience is the exact opposite.

I built the simple cap-multiplier in ESP site. Installed a 1000uF AFTER the multiplier as suggested in the webpage.

Result:- No hum, Excellent frequency response in DOZ, as if there is nothing but wires between the DOZ and the main PS caps.

Currently I use a simple CRC which gives the same hum-reduction plus bias-monitoring plus low-impedance. However, the multiplier was equally good, it just used extra components.

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Old 6th April 2012, 11:42 AM   #74
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Pd = Pmax * [Tmax - Tc] / [Tmax - T25]
using Pmax = 120W
Tmax = 150°C
Tc = Ts + 15Cdegrees = 70+15 = 85°C

The maximum power of the 3055 with a 70°C heatsink interface temperature is de-rated to ~ 120 ~ 65 / 125 = 62W.

Running the hottest part of the heatsink @ ~70°C effectively reduces your 3055 to a 62W device. Then you must de-rate for second breakdown at all the higher Vce imposed on the 3055.

Some 3055 have a Pmax of 90W @ Tc=25C.
Parallel 'em .
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Old 6th April 2012, 11:54 AM   #75
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Parallel 'em .
and/or reduce the Tc
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Old 6th April 2012, 11:56 AM   #76
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My experience is the exact opposite.

I built the simple cap-multiplier in ESP site. Installed a 1000uF AFTER the multiplier as suggested in the webpage.

Result:- No hum, Excellent frequency response in DOZ, as if there is nothing but wires between the DOZ and the main PS caps.

Currently I use a simple CRC which gives the same hum-reduction plus bias-monitoring plus low-impedance. However, the multiplier was equally good, it just used extra components.
If you've got the parts, try them both. At the end of the day it will be you listening to it.
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Old 6th April 2012, 12:13 PM   #77
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If you've got the parts, try them both. At the end of the day it will be you listening to it.
Yes. So let's stop talking about power supply as this is the DOZ thread. Peace.

Please Post DOZ Things Only. Thank you.
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Old 6th April 2012, 12:27 PM   #78
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OK - not trying to thread hop here.

The PSU is a vitally important part of any Class A amplifier project.

I'll leave it up to the builders to try what they may.
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Old 6th April 2012, 12:29 PM   #79
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Thank you very much.
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Old 6th April 2012, 01:58 PM   #80
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Hi AndrewT
Thanks for your input.Your calculation is good but I am electronic illiterate.
Can you advice what is the optimum operating temp for the TIP 3055? The solution is to use a bigger heatsink or fan ?

Hi Shaan,
How to adjust the gain of DOZ ?

thanks

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