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Old 17th September 2003, 05:39 PM   #101
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So? Given that you can patent anything anymore, what has someone having never patented anything have to do with anything?
It's like the punch line of that old joke- "There's some things even the Patent Office won't do!"

More seriously, it tells me the guy probably doesn't have any particular distinction or track record when it comes to creating technologies. Unlike John Curl or Nelson Pass.
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Old 17th September 2003, 05:41 PM   #102
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Ummmm, Pjotr, take a look three posts above yours.
Yes I have already deleted it So many same postings at the same time Nevertheless keep’on smiling.

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It's like the punch line of that old joke- "There's some things even the Patent Office won't do!"
I guess you haven't seen what the patent office has granted patents for lately. That old joke is no longer a joke.

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More seriously, it tells me the guy probably doesn't have any particular distinction or track record when it comes to creating technologies. Unlike John Curl or Nelson Pass.
Well, just as I don't judge people based on whether they have degrees or not, I don't judge people based on whether they have any patents or not.

As I've said to John numerous times in the past, a person's words don't stand or fall based on their "credentials" (or in this case patents) but on the veracity of the words themselves.

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Old 17th September 2003, 05:47 PM   #104
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Yes I have already deleted it So many same postings at the same time Nevertheless keep’on smiling.

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It's a quite interesting turn this Thread has taken...
Cars, minerals, patents, geology etc....
What happend to audio and electronics????
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Old 17th September 2003, 06:04 PM   #106
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I guess you haven't seen what the patent office has granted patents for lately. That old joke is no longer a joke.
You bet. They even allowed this one last week.

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Well, just as I don't judge people based on whether they have degrees or not, I don't judge people based on whether they have any patents or not.

As I've said to John numerous times in the past, a person's words don't stand or fall based on their "credentials" (or in this case patents) but on the veracity of the words themselves.

When ideas aren't actually presented, but only assertions, wrapped in a claimed expertise, things like credentials or patents are all one has to go on.
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You bet. They even allowed this one last week.
Hehehe. Yes. I see why you're big on patents.

6,613,406 Multilayer synthetic stopper
6,248,272 Multilayer synthetic stopper
6,239,790 Force sensing semiconductive touchpad
6,153,275 Multilayer synthetic stopper
6,085,923 Composite synthetic stopper
6,084,572 Isometric pointing device with integrated click and method
5,943,044 Force sensing semiconductive touchpad
5,847,639 Layered pressure transducer land method for making same
5,659,334 Force-sensing pointing device
5,365,671 Inclinometer
5,302,936 Conductive particulate force transducer
5,296,837 Stannous oxide force transducer and composition
5,053,585 Multipurpose keyboard using digitizer pad featuring spatial minimization of a pressure contact area and method of making same
4,994,783 Electronic device fabrication on non-conductive polymer substrate
4,963,702 Digitizer pad featuring spacial definition of a pressure contact area
4,855,361 Conductive polymer-polyimide blends and method for producing same
4,851,487 Conductive polymer materials and method of producing same
4,822,638 Electronic device fabrication on non-conductive polymer substrate
4,806,271 Preparation of base-type conducting polymers
4,798,685 Production of base-type conducting polymers

And these two applications in the oven:

20030031881 Gas permeation resistant synthetic cork closure
20020180083 Multilayer synthetic stopper

Damn. A Ph.D. and gobs of patents. You're John's kind o' guy.

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All one has to go on with regard to what exactly?

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All one has to go on with regard to what exactly?
Whether or not this is something new and interesting or just a guy trying to hustle a buck out of the suckers by selling them a jar full of rocks.

Actually, there are a few more in the oven that haven't gotten to publication phase yet.
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Whether or not this is something new and interesting or just a guy trying to hustle a buck out of the suckers by selling them a jar full of rocks.
But patents are issued to such people all the time. There have been recent patents issued for "over unity" devices. John Bedini was given a patent for spinning CDs in a magnetic field claiming (and even "proving" in his patent) that it not only caused the data on the CD to be compressed, but also rearranged the data on the CD. And so on. So I don't give whether or not someone has been granted any patents any inherent credence over those who haven't been granted any.

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Well pin a rose on your nose.

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You're getting the logic backwards. Presence of patents doesn't mean someone knows ships from shinola (as I can certainly attest!). But absence of patents indicates (doesn't prove, but indicates) that the person has not done significant work in technology or product development.
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