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Note: The original schema in the post was designed for 200W; as the design progressed I scaled up the power to its intended target of 500W into 4 Ohms.
SOM200 - Ultra Low Distortion Pure FET Power Amplifier Hello everyone! I promised to give my amp its own thread when I had finished the initial design, but in order not to clutter a different thread, I'll do so now. I've been designing amps for a while now and while my latests creation has turned out rather well I was inspired by the JFET input, MOSFET VAS, LATERAL output = Perfect!! to design an all-FET power amp. The goal of this design was to achieve and keep a low THD as development continues. Through careful analysis I've been able to figure out optimal design parameters for each of the amp's sub circuits like IPS, current mirrors, VAS, CCS' and so on. I've surprised myself. The schematic achieves incredibly low THD. Sub ppm numbers at 20KHz, 200W into 4 ohm resistive. It wasn't an easy way to get there though. I initially set off using ideal current sources and went on by implementing each of them carefully with the goal to stay in the low distortion region. I've got one more ideal CS to go. Here are some numbers: Code:
Fourier analysis for $out: DC component: -8.1332e-007 No. Harmonics: 20, THD: 1.06368e-005 %, Gridsize: 512, Interpolation Degree: 1 Harmonic Frequency Magnitude Phase Norm. Mag Norm. Phase -------- --------- --------- ----- --------- ----------- 1 1000 40.017 -0.018774 1 0 2 2000 8.39746e-008 -41.014 2.09847e-009 -40.995 3 3000 7.74366e-007 -164.39 1.93509e-008 -164.37 4 4000 3.71717e-008 -67.983 9.28897e-010 -67.964 5 5000 2.47765e-007 19.1049 6.19148e-009 19.1236 6 6000 6.07316e-008 -42.895 1.51764e-009 -42.877 7 7000 1.8439e-007 -79.51 4.60778e-009 -79.491 8 8000 3.93825e-008 -4.7429 9.84143e-010 -4.7242 9 9000 2.86322e-007 108.143 7.15501e-009 108.162 10 10000 6.94968e-008 42.6485 1.73668e-009 42.6673 11 11000 2.09569e-006 -34.091 5.23699e-008 -34.072 12 12000 5.89009e-007 89.7746 1.4719e-008 89.7933 13 13000 4.59748e-007 -56.343 1.14888e-008 -56.324 14 14000 7.11066e-007 -149.87 1.77691e-008 -149.85 15 15000 3.39956e-006 -32.858 8.49528e-008 -32.839 16 16000 2.0638e-007 -113.63 5.15732e-009 -113.61 17 17000 4.31867e-007 -160.95 1.07921e-008 -160.93 18 18000 1.64712e-007 -101.73 4.11605e-009 -101.71 19 19000 1.7081e-007 -39.923 4.26844e-009 -39.905 20 20000 1.55652e-007 -87.785 3.88966e-009 -87.766 Code:
Fourier analysis for $out: DC component: 6.14164e-006 No. Harmonics: 10, THD: 8.37035e-005 %, Gridsize: 256, Interpolation Degree: 1 Harmonic Frequency Magnitude Phase Norm. Mag Norm. Phase -------- --------- --------- ----- --------- ----------- 1 20000 40.0087 -0.3756 1 0 2 40000 4.66297e-006 -86.343 1.16549e-007 -85.967 3 60000 2.26497e-005 8.36849 5.66119e-007 8.74409 4 80000 7.37226e-006 89.176 1.84267e-007 89.5516 5 100000 2.23136e-005 4.16724 5.5772e-007 4.54284 6 120000 5.57379e-007 132.186 1.39315e-008 132.561 7 140000 1.59006e-006 43.1607 3.97429e-008 43.5363 8 160000 3.54731e-006 92.0763 8.86634e-008 92.4519 9 180000 3.17283e-006 0.633482 7.93036e-008 1.00908 10 200000 3.0004e-006 96.2616 7.49938e-008 96.6372 Anyways, the amp is still in its design stage. Once I've completed the final current source (that of the LTP), I'll work towards a prototype and see how it turns out for real. Given my previous experience with creating an amp from simulation to a real, working prototype, this new design is very promising! I'll be glad to answer questions about the design and otherwise discuss its various aspects.
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Is q3&4 C19&20 the tracking cascode that you mentioned?
And Q16&17 R28&3 the fixed cascode? Can you explain the mechanism around the VAS? Last edited by AndrewT; 14th November 2011 at 11:14 AM. |
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Hi Adrew, thanks for asking. Yeah, the two combinations Q3, Q4, R3, C20 and Q16, Q17, R28, C19 are two tracking cascodes. I could do with only one set if it wasn't for the relatively high IPS current, ~ 10mA in each leg of the LTP. The second set is merely to divide the supply voltage. it allows to set the Vds for the JFETs and the second sets the Vds for the first cascode. Here, tracking means that the JFETs see a constant Vds because the cascodes are referenced against the JFET sources.
Q10 in the VAS is also a tracking cascode although here it tracks the the VAS device (Q11) drive. It is biased by R14. R4, R14 and Q7 run approximately 2mA when in equibrilium and C2 bypasses the cascode bias R14 so that for AC signals, Q11 remains the controlling device rather than Q10. Since Q7 doesn't run much current, its drain did not have to go through the cascode and could directly connect to the VAS output. So basically, the source follower FET Q7 also provides a 'moving' BIAS for its cascode rather than running the cascode off an external voltage reference. The cascode's Vgs as a result of its current is no longer 'bouncing' off a fixed reference, impeding linearity but instead gets moved along by the drive of the VAS device. It may sound complex and crazy, but simulations proved this topology to be much better than a fixed reference cascode. The VAS current is about 15mA. It's set by JFET Q13 in the CCS for the VAS. Here I've used a current mirror to in order to replace the JFET load with a fixed reference cascode Q18 as the CCS output cascode Q12 is subject to voltage swings over its drain. It makes for a great performning CCS I think.
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Hi Magicbox
Interesting the design has become a bit more complex. Could you perhaps show the schematic with a white background, I find it hard to follow with my laptop. |
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interesting
i think i'll wait till i have a bit more working knowledge behind me before i attempt to build such a thing, but the ccs sounds quite intriguing
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Other than that, the base schematic should still be recognizable. The only thing that changed compared to the base schematic is that the drain of the source follower FET is no longer connected to GND, but directly to the VAS north-side. Having given the VAS a higer Iq, it is fast enough to drive a much larger voltage swing ![]() You'll find a black-on-white schematic attached to this post.
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Interesting.
![]() You might find that the THD e.a. numbers go up a bit when you replace that 23mA current source with real components, though.... |
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Magicbox, well I take my hats off, Ive been a member here for over 5 years and your tracking cascode is only the second significant development Ive seen here. Other designs around here are mostly what has been done for the last 30 years with a little tweak here and there but the basics remain the same. Edmond Stuart s TMC was the first. Kenpeter and Elvee are two other members thinking out of the box and come up with some inovative ideas never seen or used before.
Ignoring all the current sources (I prefer simple circuits) I find your vas most excellent indeed. If you dont mind Im going to make a comparison with my idea, I think the two will be very close in comparison, as the principle is very much the same, I just did it a little different and name it something else. One can do magic with Mosfets if you can think outside the box. Very noble of you to show it here, if patents werent so useless as its very difficult to patrol and costly too, it would be the wise way for you to go.
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Knowing this, I have to make this CS in such way I can reasonably adjust it without introducing too much noise into the circuit. I plan to do this with a current mirror so I can use a high voltage for a regular source follower with an adjustable input voltage. I'll figure out a way
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