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Old 14th November 2011, 04:41 AM   #1
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Default Carver M-500t repair help.

I'm looking for a tech in Toronto willing to help me repair and troubleshoot an old friend. This amp worked flawlessly up until a few days ago when it started blowing fuses. I only had a 4 pack of the MDX7 style fuses as replacements so after the second one blew I removed the amp for inspection.

Inspection revealed nothing, no real burnt spots, and no evidence of real damage.

There are apparently mods available for this amp to improve performance and would be a plus to add these features also while repairing.

Any young tech willing to give it a once over or willing to give me a list of what needs to be repaired I'd be grateful. Hell there may even be a few beers in it for you . PM me or leave a reply here and we can go from there.

I really don't want to scrap this amp, but am not willing to pay tech prices when I can repair the issue once the issue is found.

Thanks for any help in advance.
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Old 14th November 2011, 05:30 PM   #2
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If these are glass fuses, are they blackened or did the fuse element just melt?

Blackened = dead short
Melted = overloaded but not shorted

The first places to look in an amp for shorts are the rectifiers (easy to check, usually blacken the fuse when the short), the large filter caps and of course, the output transistors.
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Old 14th November 2011, 05:58 PM   #3
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Yup big crackly spark ending in a blackened fuse. Something tells me it's the supply caps because when I opened the amp up, and re-installed a fuse to see if I could see/hear anything the power supply transformer hummed and then a spark from the fuse.... I'll try and do some measurements and post them here, although I'm no tech I do have a DMM and screwdrivers LOL. I'll check the caps, rectifiers and the output transistors and get back to you people on any readings.

Thanks again.
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Old 14th November 2011, 06:14 PM   #4
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It could be anything with a direct connection to the main voltage rails. Got pics of the insides?

The transformer humming is due to overload as well.
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Old 14th November 2011, 07:00 PM   #5
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I'll take pics and post later.
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Old 14th November 2011, 08:17 PM   #6
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I really don't want to scrap this amp, but am not willing to pay tech prices when I can repair the issue once the issue is found.
A company has a large expensive press that keeps cracking in the same location after running a few days. After several attempts to weld the crack they finally call in a consulting engineer. He studies the machine and the nature of the failure, then draws a sketch calling for them to weld in two small gussetts on either side of the area that's cracking and that should fix the problem. Sure enough they follow his instructions and the machine runs reliably for weeks. Then a bill arrives from the engineer as follows:

-Evaluate press for cracking and recommend solution $50,000

The company president calls the engineer and questions how such a simple fix could possibly be worth that much. He then insists the engineer submit an itemized bill for the work. Several days later they received the revised invoice:

-Travel by car to your plant and back $ 75
-Inspect machine to determine cause of failure $ 500
-Draft and provide sketch defining repair procedure $ 250
-Knowing why gussets were needed and where to put them $ 49,175
-Total amount due $50,000

The bill was promptly paid in full.
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Old 14th November 2011, 08:21 PM   #7
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Fortunately you have a poor engineering student here that feels your pain and is willing to help.
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Old 14th November 2011, 08:27 PM   #8
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Yup, getting paid for what you know is what we all live to do correct? But this is DIY audio, not a referral service to a technician style board. I understand that sometimes you get what you pay for, but in this circumstance I feel it necessary to remind you that I am not willing to pay a tech if the repair can be done by myself DIY style. If in the end I feel the repair needs to be done by a pro, I have a board here available that can provide me with some pretty capable hands. But until I deem this impossible I'd rather try and rectify this myself, and if help is provided then I greatly appreciate the help.... And I did mention beer and I'll even provide tunes LOL so it's not so much a free ride.

Hey, thanks for the comment it helped out a great deal .

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A company has a large expensive press that keeps cracking in the same location after running a few days. After several attempts to weld the crack they finally call in a consulting engineer. He studies the machine and the nature of the failure, then draws a sketch calling for them to weld in two small gussetts on either side of the area that's cracking and that should fix the problem. Sure enough they follow his instructions and the machine runs reliably for weeks. Then a bill arrives from the engineer as follows:

-Evaluate press for cracking and recommend solution $50,000

The company president calls the engineer and questions how such a simple fix could possibly be worth that much. He then insists the engineer submit an itemized bill for the work. Several days later they received the revised invoice:

-Travel by car to your plant and back $ 75
-Inspect machine to determine cause of failure $ 500
-Draft and provide sketch defining repair procedure $ 250
-Knowing why gussets were needed and where to put them $ 49,175
-Total amount due $50,000

The bill was promptly paid in full.
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Old 14th November 2011, 09:09 PM   #9
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Do some searches on this forum. I recall several posts saying that the Carvers were a 'different type of beast.' The average serviceman may have troubles with them and they are not too DIY-friendly. Look up posts by Anatech, a tech with a good deal of experience with Carvers and is fairly local to you (Georgetown). I'm not sure how is health is these days as I haven't seen him post in some time. From my reading on this forum you are likely looking at a problem that requires someone quite a bit of experience (ie, not a DIY-er).

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Old 14th November 2011, 09:29 PM   #10
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Hi,
The fuse that is blowing it is the main fuse. If it is then you possible have a bad rectifiers in the power supply. If it blowing the main fuses.


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