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Old 27th August 2011, 11:55 AM   #491
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Hi Lasy Cat thanks for response.

I look at my MJL Stock and can use these 8 unit for BIGBT

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I have done HFE/VBE mesure at 55mA

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All Vbe are fine, very close to each other.

Pair the closes hFE NPN/PNP matches, for example NPN 81,9 in pair (within the same BIGBT) with PNP 81,8 etc.
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Old 27th August 2011, 12:04 PM   #492
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All Vbe are fine, very close to each other.

Pair the closes hFE NPN/PNP matches, for example NPN 81,9 in pair (within the same BIGBT) with PNP 81,8 etc.
Yes that's what i had in mind, i present them ordred 3281 N3 with 1302 N44, N94 with N19.....etc

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Old 27th August 2011, 01:12 PM   #493
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Nico, can you please make any sound comparison to SSA, are they close?
When you say are they close, do you mean in the next room or are they close in sound?

Unfortunately my system in my listening room consists of eight amps driving eight individual loudspeaker in a multi speaker stereo set-up, so it is not possible really to take the Lazy Cat across and connect it.

The LC is the kind of amp that you cannot take out of the workshop because once you listen to it, you cannot turn it off and it remains on the workbench playing instead of being finished.

The amp has an exceptionally good sound. I am not an audio reviewer but if transparent can be a description then that is what it is. Unlike most projects you tend to listen to the equipment, in this case you tend to listen to the music for a lack of better description.

I do not need to listen loud, the music comes through in a way that it sounds extremely satisfying, but do not make any mistake, even for the "baby" 40 watt amp that this one is, you become pretty anxious whether the speaker is going to survive when pushing it. It just continues to go louder.

If some of you ever listened to a KRELL KSA50, although it is only a 50 watter, it sounds a lot louder than what you expect. Now this amp follows the same reasoning, it gives the impression of playing louder than you would expect.

My Lazy Cat amp is going to stay where it is until such time that I have redesigned a PCB that tips the 100 - 150 watt scale (that is what my requirements are), designed a proper power supply, since I like regulated supplies because it seems to bring out even more detail in an amp.

I will also design an aesthetically pleasing box and have them fabricated into 4 stereo amps because I am old school and like a full rack of equipment looking as impressive as it sounds.

Unfortunately this is not a week-end task and will take a while, but the confidence I have that it will sound absolutely great and become the focus point of my system convinced me that I am prepared to spend a few thousand bucks on them.

That is about all I can say about the design, with the right power supply mechanically sound container taking all the necessary precautions to avoid noises and buzzes and the like, this amp ranks one of the best I have experienced.

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Old 27th August 2011, 01:37 PM   #494
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The LC is the kind of amp that you cannot take out of the workshop because once you listen to it, you cannot turn it off and it remains on the workbench playing instead of being finished.

The amp has an exceptionally good sound. I am not an audio reviewer but if transparent can be a description then that is what it is. Unlike most projects you tend to listen to the equipment, in this case you tend to listen to the music for a lack of better description.
The same story happened to me too, I would just listen to SSA and leave it in its web form. It looks like the satisfaction reflex prevents me to perform any changes. It is very interesting pshycological phenomena, but I have to dismantle this spider's web and finally make some serious built out of this schematic.

Thank you Nico for sharing your impressions, appreciate it a lot.
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Old 27th August 2011, 01:52 PM   #495
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Since I didn't yet find an all-BJT version I like the look of, and given those words from Nico I think my future HT amp is more likely going to follow your version if I use this SSA architecture. I will be waiting to see how this develops in terms of pcb designs... bring it on !
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Old 27th August 2011, 02:26 PM   #499
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Think this BIGBT is one hell off an idea....when making amplifiers the P and N side are always different....because the devices differ a bit..here You have the P&N included in something that resembles on singe device....
For more current capability you can double the BJT devices and still keep them under a single mossfet control....
I'll do some temp-step simulations with a lateral device (SK216-SJ79) to see how the BIGBT temp-co is...I have a feeling it will be slightly negative...If so I believe they could be the new Black in the amplifier output device world....
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Old 27th August 2011, 02:34 PM   #500
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Michael, i am interested in the lateral version too.
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