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Old 29th June 2012, 06:16 PM   #2611
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Come on Sonnya, everybody can start an autorouter

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Old 29th June 2012, 06:20 PM   #2612
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Yeah, I am happy to learn from qualified people some new details of understanding but despite what jan states below his posts, I tend to trust my ears even if it appears to disagree with some ones theory.
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Yes, a lot of people confuse perception with hearing
It may help to realize that you are deluding yourself big time whenever you listen to your stereo


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Old 29th June 2012, 06:23 PM   #2613
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It is not My work i refer to. I do not use autorouter for
My layout. You Can guess one time which i have made. Sorry i cannot see the fun right now.
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Old 29th June 2012, 06:28 PM   #2614
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It is not My work i refer to. I do not use autorouter for
My layout. You Can guess one time which i have made. Sorry i cannot see the fun right now.
Sorry, no intention to insult. You commented on the inability of people to make good layouts and then showed an obvious auto-routed PCB. I thought you meant it humurously.

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Yes, a lot of people confuse perception with hearing It may help to realize that you are deluding yourself big time whenever you listen to your stereo - jan
Yeah - Happy to admit that and with that in mind the "raison d'etre" of my stereo, in my universe, is make my brain happy via my ears - if it doesn't do that it's existence is pointless
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Yeah - Happy to admit that and with that in mind the "raison d'etre" of my stereo, in my universe, is make my brain happy via my ears - if it doesn't do that it's existence is pointless
Don't evade the issue - if you can delude yourself into 'hearing' an orchester in your room, a guitarist just off the middle a bit to the rear, a singer right before your eyes, while the only thing you really hear is two boxes with flapping cones, you can delude yourself into 'hearing' anything.
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Old 29th June 2012, 07:28 PM   #2617
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Sorry, no intention to insult. You commented on the inability of people to make good layouts and then showed an obvious auto-routed PCB. I thought you meant it humurously.

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That is okay. The only message i wanted to bring was people should give something usefull other than fighting with words.

It started to look like Harry Haller and Jocko Homo was back in this thread.

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Don't evade the issue - if you can delude yourself into 'hearing' an orchester in your room, a guitarist just off the middle a bit to the rear, a singer right before your eyes, while the only thing you really hear is two boxes with flapping cones, you can delude yourself into 'hearing' anything.
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Old 29th June 2012, 07:42 PM   #2619
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Jan,

If you really believe that you can buy yourself a ghetto blaster and believe it's an orchestra - good cheap option

I have never thought my system sounds like anything other than a pastiche of reality and I do not expect that it will ever sound like the real thing. However, these days I feel fairly content that it's a reasonably pleasant pastiche ( and that I can listen to classical music without wincing ).

Better wrapp this conversation up before Lazy Cat thinks we're hijacking his thread

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And Edmond, you are good no doubt about it. But i have seen no real work from your side besides sims??? Shows us some work you have actually put to work yourself.

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Hi Sonnya,

At the moment I can't show you recent work yet*, but if you like, have a look at some outdated stuff from the past: here and here.

* At the moment I'm busy with translating a MicroCap file to FreePCB (PADS format) and after that, drawing the PCB itself. A hell of job and expensive too (to get an impression see the thumbnail of the schematic below).
As you see, it's the opposite of a Simple Symmetrical Amplifier.
edit: It's like a V8 engine with two desmodromic valves per cylinder.

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