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Old 22nd June 2011, 12:11 AM   #1
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Default Need help with my bi-amp system

Im trying to design a bi-amp system or my living room. I made the active crossover (ESP Project 81) which is set to 130Hz i have SEAS Prestige 27TBCD, SEAS Prestige ER18RNX for the high pass and the 1 Dayton 15" Reference Subwoofer on the low pass. I am just confused what amp to build that will sound the best for each.

I like the DX Precision I amp for my subwoofer because it's said to produce a lot of power and have good bass response. is there any other amps that will work better for this application?

For the mid/highs i though of building the DX Precision I again but running from regulated 45+/- and using 2 output pairs instead of three to reduce power output. Is there any other amps that have better sounding highs/mid's that are not that hard to build? How does the normal dx amps highs/mid's sound compared to the DX Precision I?
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Old 22nd June 2011, 05:24 AM   #2
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I'd ignore the standard dx for hi fedility purposes, very boomy bass more suitable for a BBQ and beer than fine listening. The DX HRII has fine mids and trebles.
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Old 22nd June 2011, 12:19 PM   #3
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The HRII has better sounding mid/treble than Precision I
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Old 22nd June 2011, 12:41 PM   #4
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Maybe my circuit could be something ? I'm listening to it as i type this.

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Old 22nd June 2011, 01:28 PM   #5
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Tek,
why have you shorted out R17?
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Old 22nd June 2011, 02:14 PM   #6
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Its only a simulation thing, that resistor doesent actually exist in the actual amp.

Anyways im doing open loop simulations at this thing atm and its virtually flat from 1Hz to 1MHz, phase is pretty flat too, i reckon that makes this a pretty good design.
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Old 22nd June 2011, 03:28 PM   #7
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I think the Precision beats any of the older DX amps including the HRII, but at a cost in parts, heatsinks, transformers and electricity consumption. If money is no problem, I'd use the same amps from bottom to top, so that things stay "voiced" the same, gain stays the same, etc...
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Old 22nd June 2011, 03:47 PM   #8
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If i'm going to build the precision I 3 times i need to make it simpler.
Will these modification's to the circuit make still it stable/sound good?

Do the vas/driver transistor's need a heat sink? (in my experience the vas/drivers even in high power amps don't get that hot)

I was thinking of running the high/mid amp off a linear regulated 50+/- and it having 2 output pairs and the subwoofer amp run off unregulated 65+/-

What is the max safe operating voltage to power the amp's off of with my modifications? (The sub is 4 ohms, highs/mid 8 ohms)
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Old 22nd June 2011, 05:23 PM   #9
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I ran mine on 70VDC. tiny screwon sinks on the TO220's, not as a safety measure but rather as an attempt at temperature stability through transients.
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Old 22nd June 2011, 05:38 PM   #10
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Do the vas/driver transistor's need a heat sink? (in my experience the vas/drivers even in high power amps don't get that hot)
you, the builder, have complete control of that.
Either build it exactly to match a successful design or re-design it to suit your choice of current, voltage and heatsinking (if any).
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