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Old 2nd May 2011, 07:53 AM   #1
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Default Voltage level shifter

Hi

I am building an "op-amp" from first principles. Currently I am trying to shift the DC/AC audio signal from Vs/2 to 0.

I am trying to create (and understand) a voltage level shifter. I have seen a design (original 741) but I cannot understand it as it is incorporated in the diff amp stage. I know it'd be quite simple and it'd take probably one transistor and one resistor to make.

Can anynone please show me a circuit that does it so I can understand it?

Thanks
Akis
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Old 2nd May 2011, 08:02 AM   #2
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Currently I am messing with "cascode" transistors, ie two or more in series, but I am not there yet
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Old 2nd May 2011, 10:21 AM   #3
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There are basically two ways to translate an AC/DC signal to a different voltage base level:
1. convert it into a signal current, then back into a voltage e.g. cascode
2. interpose a floating voltage source e.g. Vbe multiplier

If the signal is AC only, then two more ways are available:
3. use a capacitor, with either a resistor or switch on the output side
4. use a transformer, with the output side biassed to the desired voltage

You could add optoisolation as a further method but this is only used when significant isolation (of voltage or ground currents) is needed.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 11:38 AM   #4
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Would you have any circuit examples for (1) or (2) ?
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Old 3rd May 2011, 07:21 PM   #5
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Here is a circuit I have been experimenting with.

( Q3 and associated components is not part of the voltage shifter and only used to drive it for verification purposes )

Q2 keeps constant current on R6 so we get a constant voltage drop across R9.

Test circuit :

main parameters
Vs=10V
Vin=7V
Vout=5V
hfe Q1/Q2 = 150

secondary parameters
Rin=220K
Rout=2.2K

The combination of the above parametes results in the values shown for R9 and R6.

The bad thing about this circuit is its great dependency on Vs - so I cannot for example use it inside a discreet op-amp.

I need to improve this, or use something completely different, that will "scale" with Vs.

Any help/advice welcome
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