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Old 23rd November 2010, 03:04 PM   #1
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Default SEPP LITTLE SOLID AMP

as the little OP-AMP NE5532
is better using the same devices in output
to avoid difference between complementary components
responsable of timbrical imprinting
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Old 23rd November 2010, 06:07 PM   #2
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The only timbre this is going to produce is Boom-fzzzzzt with smoke coming out of the output transistors.
The 'schematic' posted shows lack of elementary understanding about BJT circuit design, it just makes you look foolish.

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Old 23rd November 2010, 06:55 PM   #3
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Default sorry

need an inverted input
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Old 24th November 2010, 02:19 AM   #5
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Stee,
your output stage will not work like its shown.

Ask yourself what happens to the current flow in the output transistors when the output of the op-amp swings positive . . .

And then, when it swings negative . . .

Your are also going to have a LOT of oscialltion problems if you use an amplifer stage (Q1) after the op-amp. The complicated feedback network is not going to help you here either.

Get yourself a copy of LTSpice and simulate your circuit first, then post your results up and we can try to steer you towards a workable design - you learn quickly like that as well.
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Hi bonsai, but isn't this small looks like working? is it not in your simulator?
Q4 BD139+change those resistors, and add small capacitive compensator pin 1(7), 2(6) if oscillated.

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Old 24th November 2010, 03:57 AM   #7
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Replace Q1 with a pnp. Power supply noise and bias drift will be a big issue. Use a ring of two current source to feed the bias current and attach the sense transistor to the heatsink.

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Old 24th November 2010, 07:23 AM   #8
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I don't like change Q1 in PNP because the basic concept is balance the rail-gains
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Old 24th November 2010, 08:00 AM   #9
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Hi Stee.
while I'm sure the other responses you've had will undoubtedly help you in the long run, it won't help you see that your circuit will burn up as soon as you connect a load to it.

Your circuit, as it stands will have Q4 permanently switched ON and as soon as you attach a load, will apply a -ve DC voltage to that load and destroy it.

Assuming it is a speaker, you might hear one very loud CLICK as the coil and cone slams to one side or the other and starts smoking!

This because your R4 is clamped to Vbe of Q4 and the output of the Op Amp is clamped at approximately 2 x Vbe above the negative rail.

Changing Q2 to a PNP as suggested above will help but you'll still have about 3 - 4mA into the base of Q4, resulting in a large negative offset.

You really need to Google for BJT output stages to sort this out.

By the way, complementary output stages produce VERY good results.

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