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Old 19th October 2010, 10:33 AM   #1
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Red face hafler xl 280

greetings all,
new to site, nice to have contact with buffs since i sold hi end audio in the 70s and moved to another city that has never heard of mid fi, much less hi fi, i am looking to put together a cheap(lol) system at least for the amp and pre, am wondering if the hafler xl 280 is worth the trouble or is there some other really clean amps out there i might consider. probably will need min. 150 watts or more, probably will try and find some nice dahlquist dq-10s, sold arc, levinson, koss, quad, gas, and much of the better stuff 30 years ago or so. have maggies, dqs, and other fill ins over the years but would like to go to dqs as i loved their sound if my hearing would really notice it now, but i will try. any ideas where to find any of the above? thanks in advanced for any enlightenment in this time of austerity
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Old 11th November 2010, 04:31 AM   #2
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for more info on this great amp, have 4, shopping for 2 more, try this link:

http://www.hafler.com/techsupport/pd...80_amp_man.pdf


cheers tony
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Old 11th November 2010, 10:18 AM   #3
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Default much obliged

thanks tony for the help, sounds like a real tank of an amp even if it weighs 27 lbs. guess technology has made great headway since i was associated with hi end years ago, i had luxman that weighed over 100 lbs. thanks again, bruce
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Old 13th November 2010, 02:05 AM   #4
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do you have speakers or amp?
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Old 13th November 2010, 03:30 AM   #5
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currently i have ads l-810, expect to pick up some dahlquist dq-10s or maggies, am using a nakamichi receiver rated @160 but i would rather have a good amp as well
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Old 13th November 2010, 01:30 PM   #6
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I'm familiar w/ those brand's good rep, but not that model ADSs.

Model Nak receiver? pre-amp outs?
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Old 13th November 2010, 05:50 PM   #7
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L-810 was a speaker by ads late 70s, nice 3 way, bout 1100 a pair or so. probably will use an audio research sp-3a1 or something along those lines for a pre.
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Old 13th November 2010, 10:05 PM   #8
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Saw some pics of your speakers. Never heard those; been very impressed w/much smaller models.

I take it you're rebuilding a 2 channel system. I'd start @ the begining w/the source of your choice. Then follow w/the preamp connected to line a input on the Nak. I'll finish this later;Husband/fatherhood calls.
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Old 14th November 2010, 01:04 AM   #9
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OK I'm back.

Remember: regardless of where you look in your playback chain, any component will only sound as good as how its connected to what's what's driving it.

A correction to previous post: "I'd follow w/the preamp OF YOUR CHOICE w/a quality IC" using the Nak as a power amp.

I won't go past that on ICs (or wire) as that WILL ignite a debate. I'm convinced ICs & wire are THE most controversial subject in the audio world. I'll PM you a link to a diyaudio thread that overstates that point.

A side note: you could upgrade your speaker connection (wire) FIRST;that is BEFORE you buy anything if don't have what would be your final choice!

Then buy your power amp (& IC) w/your "new" speaker in mind. Up untill this point still use those ADSs. Gotta go

Tony
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Old 14th November 2010, 04:33 AM   #10
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Default getting a new amp and pre

i am looking to get better amp and pre, possibly dahlquist or maggies later, but for the time i was thinking a good class A amp with 200 wpc or so, maybe b & k or such, any suggestions?
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