|
|
|||||||
| Home | Forums | Rules | Articles | Store | Gallery | Blogs | Register | Donations | FAQ | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read | Search |
| Solid State Talk all about solid state amplification. |
|
Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.
Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#1 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
|
Hello all.
I've got a job for a friend to repair his Krell KSA-100. I've about 15 years experience from audio amp repair and design, but Krell has never crossed my way before. The amp is all dead, mains fuse OK, powerswitch OK is all that I've checked so far. Slowstart power resistors OK, as far as I can tell. Between the two mains transformers there are a small relay board which I believe may be some kind of starter for the primary side of the transformers. Is that so? Output sections seems OK, measured across some of the final transistors, but that's not the problem. The secondary cap bank never gets charged up so there must a powersupply problem. I suspect this place is full of people who has worked on Krell's and may have some advice for me. Best regards Jackson |
|
|
|
|
#2 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Carlisle, England
|
Checked secondary fuses and transformer and bridge rectifier.
__________________
http://www.murtonpikesystems.co.uk PCBCAD40 pcb design software. |
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
|
Well, yes. Obviously, it appears no mains voltage to any of the power transformers.
|
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Florida
|
Had the same amp before with the same problem, turned out to be that relay was open. I replaced it and amp was go to go. I did replace a lot of the old cap as some were leaking. I would say check there first, no pri B+ sounds the same to me but never know.
|
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: SiliconValley
|
Take a look at the restoration and schematic info on the web.
Krell KSA-100 Mk II restoration Krell I would: 1) connect a 100 watt light blub in series with the AC power line to protect against amplifier shorts from destroying additional components or blowing a home circuit breaker. 2) The KSA100 has a power up circuit which has a slow start resistor shorted out by a relay after the main power capacitors ramp up to full voltage. It is common for these relays and power-up resistors to fail. There are a few different simple circuits used to sense the capacitor voltage and trip the shorting relay. 3) Check the leakage on the main power capacitors before you attempt to power up. You want to check for both shorts and high leakage. I put a 1k resistor in series with each capacitor and monitor the resistor's voltage drop(charging current) using a lab power supply. If the capacitors are more than 10 years old, I would probably replace all of them as part of the rebuild/chean-up. 4) Since one common output power supply runs both channels, disconnecting each channel from the large output power caps can isolate a bad channel. Now you can use the good channel as a reference. 5) If the predriver PC board circuits do not properly power up, the output power supply will not ramp up on the MK II revision. |
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
|
Thanks for the post. Unfortunately, there are no schematics available on the restoration site.
Just to make clear for my mind: Both powertransformers are connected to the mainspower as soon as the powerswitch is ON through series resistors, these resistors are shorted out when cap bank has reached a threshold voltage. So, obviously, when there's a short in the amplifier modules, this will make cap voltage decrease and make the softstart relay go open, and the softstart resistors will bang open. What I was uncertain of, if the power transformers had a start-up relay which was needed to close before transformers got power, but this seems not to be the case. I measure resistance across the powercord, powerswitch ON, there's all infinite. I would expect to read the softstart resistors at least. Anyone got the schematics for this beast, or the powersupply part at least? |
|
|
|
|
#7 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
|
I think all the data is already on the Forum or linked from within the Forum.
__________________
regards Andrew T. |
|
|
|
|
#8 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
|
It appeared the 5ohm/50W primary softstart resistor was open.
Replaced this and unit is up and running again. |
|
|
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
|
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| need help with krell ksa 100 | nugent4151 | Solid State | 25 | 23rd March 2010 04:28 PM |
| Capacitor Krell KSA 100 | Alex helge | Solid State | 61 | 14th November 2009 03:09 PM |
| Krell KSA-100 question | primare | Solid State | 1 | 15th April 2003 10:47 AM |
| Krell KSA 100 | Alex helge | Solid State | 2 | 24th February 2003 03:05 AM |
| New To Site? | Need Help? |
| Page generated in 0.10934 seconds (76.98% PHP - 23.02% MySQL) with 10 queries |