Signal Capacitors - Japan vs Thailand

toshiba_nz · 6th May 2010, 10:38 PM

I recently brought Elna Cerafines capacitors from a large trader. Advertised was a picture of the old Cerafine, with the deep red sleeve, and I received a capacitor with a black sleeve, that had Elna Cerafine printed on it, but sounded like total crap.

I want to try the ELNA SILMIC II, but after looking around it appears there are different versions of this Capacitor; an original Japan version (brown sleeve) , and a new Thai version (darker sleeve). Can anybody confirm my theory, that the new 'Thai)' caps are bulls8t, and the original old Japanese versions, are the good stuff. If this proves to be correct, are there ANY current production capacitors that sound any good in the signal path?

jaycee · 6th May 2010, 10:50 PM

It could well be that this "lage trader" has been unwittingly selling fakes. Check them against data sheets from Elna.

toshiba_nz · 6th May 2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jaycee

It could well be that this "lage trader" has been unwittingly selling fakes. Check them against data sheets from Elna.

Yea, I guess if you are color blind, and had not listened to them, it could be hard to tell the difference

jaycee · 7th May 2010, 12:00 AM

well they are aiming to rip off big industry production lines who will not check the colour

mach1 · 7th May 2010, 12:05 AM

There is another thread devoted entirely to the topic of 'fake' elna silmics. Suggest you do a search.

toshiba_nz · 7th May 2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mach1

There is another thread devoted entirely to the topic of 'fake' elna silmics. Suggest you do a search.

Hi, thanks, I noted that.

I wonder if it could be that Elna shifted their manufacturing plant from Japan to Thailand?

danspy · 11:24 AM

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I wonder if it could be that Elna shifted their manufacturing plant from Japan to Thailand?

Yes year,s ago if the com from Thailand the are the good wan,s and if from Japan the are fake.

Crazy World.

audi0 · 7th May 2010, 11:37 AM

Would you like to give us a hint on who the “large trader” is?

danspy · 7th May 2010, 12:00 PM

I don,t no i got dies from a Store which sells outdated or miss Printed Parts.

danspy · 8th May 2010, 12:42 AM

The Elna Cerafine and Silmic,s have tinned copper pin, s and are thus very simple to test with a speaker magnet.

6th May 2010, 10:38 PM	#1
toshiba_nz diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Signal Capacitors - Japan vs Thailand I recently brought Elna Cerafines capacitors from a large trader. Advertised was a picture of the old Cerafine, with the deep red sleeve, and I received a capacitor with a black sleeve, that had Elna Cerafine printed on it, but sounded like total crap. I want to try the ELNA SILMIC II, but after looking around it appears there are different versions of this Capacitor; an original Japan version (brown sleeve) , and a new Thai version (darker sleeve). Can anybody confirm my theory, that the new 'Thai)' caps are bulls8t, and the original old Japanese versions, are the good stuff. If this proves to be correct, are there ANY current production capacitors that sound any good in the signal path?

7th May 2010, 12:05 AM	#5
mach1 diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brisvegas	There is another thread devoted entirely to the topic of 'fake' elna silmics. Suggest you do a search. __________________ Au rutti wop-bop-a-loom-bop-a-boom-bam-boom - Richard Penniman

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6th May 2010, 10:50 PM	#2
jaycee diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, UK	It could well be that this "lage trader" has been unwittingly selling fakes. Check them against data sheets from Elna.

7th May 2010, 12:00 AM	#4
jaycee diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, UK	well they are aiming to rip off big industry production lines who will not check the colour

7th May 2010, 11:37 AM	#8
audi0 diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: 37.34 degrees South Blog Entries: 5	Would you like to give us a hint on who the “large trader” is?

7th May 2010, 12:00 PM	#9
danspy diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2007	I don,t no i got dies from a Store which sells outdated or miss Printed Parts.

8th May 2010, 12:42 AM	#10
danspy diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2007	The Elna Cerafine and Silmic,s have tinned copper pin, s and are thus very simple to test with a speaker magnet.

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