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Old 20th January 2013, 11:34 AM   #2401
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thank a lot!

1vac=1.2vrms ? is it always working formula?

i need psu with 55vac*2 ? for npn-pnp transistors scheme... +55 to pnp and -55to npn?

so if u=55, why on the original scheme b500 written +-90Vmax ?

and why we double amperes for 2 chanels (11*2) but dont double voltage ?

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Old 20th January 2013, 03:00 PM   #2402
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Ppsu=25A*55vac=1375VA
but apexaudio said he use 1000va transformer for this amp, and somebody here use even less VA psu...

as I understood we can use less VA psu but then we have upper our voltage,what is algorythm here ?

sorry for too much quiestions...the problem is to get 1000-1500va trans here..it is very expensive..so am wondering if its possible to use less VA trans and just upper the voltage of trans...but i cannot understand algirythm of uppering the voltage

for example, how much voltage I need for 700VA trans to get 1000wt on stereo, or its not possible?

why apexaudio on original scheme wrote Vmax=+-90V..not+-55 as we calculated ?!
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Old 20th January 2013, 03:25 PM   #2403
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use 80vdc, ct ,80vdc for safety operation.(55vac, ct ,55vac secondary).
u can get 500w with 4 ohm with 90vdc if u use mjl21195/96 or mjl4281.
90vdc for mjl number transistors.
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Old 20th January 2013, 03:37 PM   #2404
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do u mean 55vac=80vdc? the voltage goes up after capacitors in PSU ? by which formula you calculated it?

what means ct? ct=0,ct=ground,ct=?)

by the way all comes more clear for me, thank you Brothers )

ps still I cannot understand, why apexaudio use 1000va trans and its ok, the formula said it should be 1375va (25A*55vac)

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Old 20th January 2013, 03:45 PM   #2405
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ct means center tap of the transformer in secondary , also say gnd.

55vac after smoothing capacitors charged, the voltage will be 75vdc to 80vdc.
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Old 20th January 2013, 03:53 PM   #2406
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thank you !
also I have to understand how to take voltage on 2 chanels from 1 transformer.
so I have on secondary 3 taps, first +55, second CT, third -55 , right?
+55 I give to one part of transistors in one chanel, -55 i give to another part of transistores in the same chanel....

and from where I shoud take voltage to second chanel ? from the same pots that I used for first chanel?
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Old 20th January 2013, 04:03 PM   #2407
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secondary 55vac,ct,55ac after rectified with smoothing capacitors, u will get +75vdc ct -75 or +80vdc, ct,-80vdc.
if ur transformer 1000va or watts +75 goes to positive side of the amp -75vdc goes negative side of the amp, and ct is gnd,
use 8,10000uf /100v caps for psu, give psu positve to two channels, negative to two chanels. and the gnd also for two channels.
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Old 20th January 2013, 04:21 PM   #2408
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thanks a lot, you mean 8*10000uf to get at all 80000uf?
is it enough for deep bass with highest volume possible to hear clear sound?
by which way I can calculate how much uf I need for ?

ps: this amp working in class AB ?

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Old 21st January 2013, 04:53 AM   #2409
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with bridge mode 8r load is min impedance for safety with B500.
or go to 3ef and you can bridge mode with 4r load.
regards...
how if 500 standard given 2 Ohm load, is there a need to change the value of its components?
thanks
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Old 21st January 2013, 09:11 AM   #2410
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for PSU spec 55vac 25A they count(where I order transformer) for me 2500Wt transformer! how it can be?!!! ((
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