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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mendoza
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Hi all.
Which is design criterion for to determinate the value of the capacitor? Self Blameless amp: 220R // 1uF Ostripper FA2 amp: 100R // .68uF Ostripper FA2S amp: 100R // .02uF DestroyerX DX Blame ES amp: 220R // 220nF MikeB Symasym5 amp: 33R // 100nF Thanks GEirin |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
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the resistor determines the bias current flowing through the driver stage.
The capacitor can be approximated by trial and error and listening. I have seen [0r82+1uF]//R There must have been a lot of trail and error to find that combination.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mendoza
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Thanks Andrew
RC time constant and cutoff frequency Self Blameless amp: 220R // 1uF --- 220 useg, 723Hz --- Ostripper FA2 amp: 100R // .68uF--- 150useg, 1061Hz --- Ostripper FA2S amp: 100R // .02uF --- 68useg, 2340Hz --- DestroyerX DX Blame ES amp: 220R // 220nF--- 48,4useg, 3288Hz --- MikeB Symasym5 amp: 33R // 100nF --- 33useg, 4822Hz --- Other amplifier Harman Kardon AVR745 --- 820useg, 194KHz --- |
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Prague, Kitakyushu, Fukuoka
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mendoza
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sorry for mistake
RC time constant and cutoff frequency Self Blameless amp: 220R // 1uF --- 220 useg, 723Hz --- Ostripper FA2 amp: 100R // .68uF--- 68useg, 2340Hz --- Ostripper FA2S amp: 100R // .02uF --- 2useg, 79577Hz --- DestroyerX DX Blame ES amp: 220R // 220nF--- 48,4useg, 3288Hz --- MikeB Symasym5 amp: 33R // 100nF --- 33useg, 4822Hz --- Other amplifier Harman Kardon AVR745 --- 820useg, 194Hz --- |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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I use a triple output stage. I am using MJE15033/32's as the drivers. These have a 15 Ohm resistor connected emitter to emitter, and they then feed into the output devices. Originally, I had no base stoppers and therefore had stability problems in the output stage. Now I have 3.3Ohm base stoppers - no instability. So, my feeling is, if you run the driver stage hot and in class A with a very low emitter to emitter resistor (like 15 Ohms), and you use fast output devices, you can get away without a base charge suck-out capacitor.
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There are more impedances into play than just the bias resistor (base input resistance and capacitance actually), and stored charge in the B-E junction, so time constants are much shorter.
The whole subject is difficult to understand without having done some experimentation with bipolar transistors used as switches, where base charge storage and removal phenomena become quite evident.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mendoza
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Hi all.
Here two types of speed switchoff capacitors. First, the traditional R / / C. TC = RxC. The second, Roender amplifier is more complex, with damping resistor + C. Here, how to calculate the TC? Thanks. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Searchin' for Sweet Singletrack
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I agree iwth Prof Leach. It is not neccessary if the driver stages are fully run in class A.
It also sounds better without the cap in the 2 amps I tried (including the DX Blame).*** *** Opinion alert! |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mendoza
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Dave S, thank you very much for your replies. But I need to know how to calculate network TC: (R + C) / / R.
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