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tiefbassuebertr 9th August 2009 07:09 PM

Successors for V-FET SONY-Yamaha-TOKIN 2SJ28, 2SJ18/2SK60, 2SJ26/2SK76 and 2SK180
 
Successors for V-FET SONY-Yamaha-TOKIN 2SJ28 2SK82, 2SJ18/2SK60, 2SJ26/2SK76 and 2SK180

hello,
from follow FETs, developed arround 1970 and 1978 I need for service successors from currently production with higher reliability.
I know follow types
2SK77 (Yamahas TO-3 special outline) 2SJ26/2SK76 (Yamaha various models)
2SJ28 2SK82 (from Sony's first PWM amp TA-N88), 2SJ18 2SK60 (TA-N7) and 2SK180 (Tokin)
Any sellers offer their old stock, but the risk, to get damage devices or such with to large tolerances to the actually specifications is to high for me.

Therefore I need high quality clones of this types (more better quality as the original versions)
because chinese engineers are never sleep, I think there must be any manufactures with clones of this old types.
Knows anybody more about this?
Thank you for your advices.

Concerning Yamaha and Sony V-Fet I have found any URLs about discuss and photos so as delivery sources of old stock but it seems, nobody there are with offers from new production:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...threadid=51798
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...threadid=37247
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...hreadid=141395
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...hreadid=109664
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...threadid=60972
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...hreadid=106964
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...threadid=74774
photos
http://f.hatena.ne.jp/platycerus/20071020203900
http://www.geocities.jp/craft_3/Semi...SONY_TR_53.jpg
http://vfet.blog.bbiq.jp/photos/unca...2/fiicu5_q.jpg (2SJ13/2SJ18)
http://vfet.blog.bbiq.jp/photos/unca...2/2jayjefd.jpg (2SJ26/2SK76)
http://images.buyitsellit.com/306451.jpg
http://www.transparentsound.com/tran...nted/2SK77.gif
http://vfet.blog.bbiq.jp/blog/images.../23/2sk771.jpg
http://vfet.blog.bbiq.jp/blog/cat4743994/index.html (2SK77 inside, scroll down)
http://blog-imgs-17.fc2.com/m/a/z/mazdaluce3000/118.jpg (Tokin 2SK180)
http://mazdaluce3000.blog100.fc2.com...te-200706.html (Tokin 2SK180)

john curl 9th August 2009 09:48 PM

Good luck, but I doubt that you will find much. These devices were taken off the market because of low yield and the improvements in mosfet technology. They were great devices in their own way, but not directly compatible with bipolar or mosfets. Some military microwave devices have similar properties, but are VERY expensive.

Lumba Ogir 9th August 2009 10:58 PM

tiefbassuebertr,
there does not exist such thing as high quality clones. For smallest tolerances stick to original manufacturing.
Don`t give up easily and please keep us informed about your findings.
(You will need) good luck.
:D

tiefbassuebertr 10th August 2009 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by john curl
Good luck, but I doubt that you will find much. These devices were taken off the market because of low yield and the improvements in mosfet technology. They were great devices in their own way, but not directly compatible with bipolar or mosfets. Some military microwave devices have similar properties, but are VERY expensive.
A manufactur of such military microwave devices would be in the best position, this V-FETs reintroduce. Tokin or Lovoltech e. g. An other name for V-FET are "Static Induction Transistor" see about
http://nsr.mij.mrs.org/4S1/G6.41/article.pdf
What actually happened with the old wafer production equipment and documantations by Sony and NEC?

Lumba Ogir 10th August 2009 07:50 AM

tiefbassuebertr,
how linear are GaN transistors by your cautious estimation?

tiefbassuebertr 10th August 2009 08:46 AM

do you mean this transistors about
http://www.photonics.com/Content/Rea...rticleID=33765
from this manufactur, see about
http://www.triquint.com/prodserv/types/discrete_fets/
???????????

this information is completely new for me and therefore I cannot say anything about this - but best thanks for this very interesting advice

homemodder 10th August 2009 08:58 AM

Dont give up yet, look here, something is on the horizon.......
http://www.semisouth.com/products/up...5_rev1.8.0.pdf

Lumba Ogir 10th August 2009 09:19 AM

tiefbassuebertr,
do you actually need something or are you just playing around (wasting your time)?

h_a 10th August 2009 09:41 AM

@homemodder: that's a normally OFF jfet, I really don't see much of a difference to a normal mosfet in this part. The old Sonys were large pinch-off depletion jfets (normally ON) and so a completely different animal.

Have fun, Hannes

tiefbassuebertr 11th August 2009 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by homemodder
Dont give up yet, look here, something is on the horizon.......
http://www.semisouth.com/products/up...5_rev1.8.0.pdf

thanks for this advice


Quote:

Originally posted by Lumba Ogir
tiefbassuebertr,
do you actually need something or are you just playing around (wasting your time)?

I need a wide range of types for repair follow components:
SONY TA-N88B
http://cgi.ebay.de/Sony-TA-N-88-B_W0...08131003r15914
SONY TA-N7B
http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/ta-n7b-h.jpg
http://www.agoraquest.com/editor/upl...3440d531f0.jpg
and Yamaha B1
http://i.audioscope.net/main_yamaha_b1.jpg
You can offer me unused or successor devices of this V-Fets?
If yes, please make me your offer
If no, you did right with your statement - you're wasting my time


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