I have decided to offer Gerbers from Precision 1 and HRII amplifier and PSU

[destroyer X]

If you want them write to:

panzertoo@yahoo.com

If to your own use, to produce boards to yourself, you are very welcome...if has other intentions..then we have to talk a little.

Boards gerber files are beeing offered for free, to a non profit use..if different we need to make some arrangement.

I would ask you not to modify....or..if change something, please, remove the model name and write...XXXX based on HRII

Those gerbers are in zip file.... 320K size only.

Having those Gerbers you can order professional boards.

I do not encourage modifications, even if you change the model name....in special if you publish in our forum, already very poor of creative new designs...to avoid the same old song once again..keep those untouched please, and do things different guys... create!

And do real creative design boys..not only to change a resistance or a capacitor, or to substitute a zener by a CCS or a bootstrapp by a CCS... say... do really different things..all possibilies where already explored in our bootstrapped forum.

I do not feel proud as i have almost started that stuff..i feel ashamed, as our forum became very poor of creativity...nothing new..only revisiting, new aproaches, my style into Leach...another way to build JLH, the Quasi cousin from quasi cousin's brother.

Please boys... create!

regards,

Carlos

[Greg Erskine]

Originally posted by destroyer X
I do not encourage modifications, even if you change the model name....in special if you publish in our forum, already very poor of creative new designs...to avoid the same old song once again..keep those untouched please, and do things different guys... create!

And do real creative design boys..not only to change a resistance or a capacitor, or to substitute a zener by a CCS or a bootstrapp by a CCS... say... do really different things..all possibilies where already explored in our bootstrapped forum.

I do not feel proud as i have almost started that stuff..i feel ashamed, as our forum became very poor of creativity...nothing new..only revisiting, new aproaches, my style into Leach...another way to build JLH, the Quasi cousin from quasi cousin's brother.

[destroyer X]

Means smash... smash what?.... what does this means?

regards,


Carlos

[Greg Erskine]

I couldn't find the flogging-a-dead-horse icon.

[destroyer X]

regards,

Carlos

[Netlist]

Carlos,

Since everything we build and create is almost always based on the work of others in some way, I think that not allowing modification or experimenting with ones designs is counterproductive and exactly the opposite of what diyAudio was created for.
Every mod holds a potential new discovery and most people (including me) are not creators, audio-wise. It’s a gift you seem to possess and by prohibiting others to play with your gifts you kill creativity, which is again the opposite of what you seem to intend.

/Hugo

[destroyer X]

having the hope are offering to themselves and to the whole forum a brand new things is an illusion.

I will let open them to modify, but you gonna see, as a result, that in a matter of monthes we will have the real bootstrapp forum... the circuit sounds fine, simple, cheap and popular..also old and hardly tested..imagine if each one of forum folks decide to tweak a single resistance, or just to try sligthly different currents (this will result in different resistances but will not result different sonics).

I will respect forum politics, as i imagine that when one moderator talks, seems others have agreed with that... i will appreciate to register that i will not be responsable by the obvious consequences of that.

I tried to impeach that kind of stuff, that it is really counterproductive people marching in the same place..repeating old designs the way we are watching as testimony those last monthes.

I do not agree with you Netlist (and all forum management, as you are an official representative)...and i think you will see, in the future the result of that.... but i hope people do not blame me for that...i have started that stuff, the old amplifier redesigned..but i have never forecast this could became such kind of non creativity avalanche.

regards,

Carlos

[Greg Erskine]

The pot calling the kettle black.

[AndrewT]

Originally posted by destroyer X
I would ask you not to modify....or..if change something, please, remove the model name and write...XXXX based on HRII

I think the problem is non native language.

If I am right, it looks like Dx is suggesting that if one chooses to modify the Gerber/layout then he asks that we change the identification included in the Gerber files.

If it is no longer the original then why should it look like or claim to be an original.

I see nothing wrong with that request.


However,
Dx does have a problem with accepting constructive criticism.
He refuses to accept any change he has not introduced.
He acts like God at times and I find that infuriating.
But maybe even this is caused by language difficulties.
There is a solution. Type less and think more.

[destroyer X]

If we are allowed to take other folks designs and to change them following our own ideas about..also test them... build and show them here.... proving we really did the job..the real thing.

I always had some need to tweak other schematics, in the reality, almost all forum schematics, and i had/have time to do that... but i found that unaceptable... i see i was wrong..seems to me, if i am not wrong, that forum management accept that....more than acceptance..stimulates that behavior.

I found that intrusion...because the one produced a schematic have tested and for sure, if not an idiot, have checked almost all options and decided to the best one to that topologie..but this is subjective, of course...and forum seems do not think this is disrespect and intrusion..so..i will be well accepted doing that.

May i publish all variations i have tested into the Dx Amplifier?...posting pictures proving the variation was made into real world?

May i change other schematics posted, also to build them, and post images proving i did, also evaluating the advantages and disadvantages in my personal, subjective, point of view?

I think i will be well accepted by moderation, as you are saying , and others moderators said so, that stimulates the people research into schematics..

I think i can do too.... and i can do several schematics each day...i have 24 hours a day free time to do it.

Is this a problem?..... i think i will be following forum rules/instructions about.

I never did that, respecting people that have created things, not to bother them with my personall ideas about, but for sure i can change their schematics following my personal ideas...i have never told someone to change a resistance before the guy asked me that....my ideas may populate the forum with several units...all them different, of course, as cannot be the same, will be "variations around the same theme"... i will have fun..if not punished because i am good doing that... maybe too much productive on that.

I am asking permission to do that..forum has almost 10 schematics that i think can be made different..also will receive other names too...of course i will mention the original one that was the reference to tweakings.

I will be very happy and very busy...as no problems about cloning, or to study variations...i will make several.

regards,

Carlos