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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: back to civilization
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Yep, the diode makes the trick. (of dual supply working)
You've just created a buck regulator turned to current source. This is clever, congratulations. Note, that a dc voltage at a inductor is zero, which is the point here. |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dallas
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And if you connect the load halfway into the sense resistor???
Does this make an active current source of equal impedance? Hate to throw away double free power... If you are making it anyway... |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
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Hi,
is the switched current sink ON for half the time? Does the inductor smooth the switched current to effectively half the peak current? Does the amplifying transistor see an effective constant current load ~=average smoothed current through the inductor? Does any of that mean that the average bias has been reduced to ~50% of the peak bias? Is it simpler to just turn down the bias to half? i.e. quarter (-6dB) of the maximum ClassA output power.
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Join Date: May 2009
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I (simply) see everything below the junction between the follower source and load as a "black box" constant current sink. Its apparent DC impedance varies as a direct function of the follower voltage divided by the set current. On the subject of "free power" there can, of course, be no such thing! As you know we're only re-distributing it here. The 2 Amps on the meter above is what's being drawn from the PSU. The current in the sense resistor (i.e. the actual bias current in the Class A stage is 1.9 x as much (1 + the efficiency factor of the switcher) thanks to the diode pumping the unwanted potential back into the reservoir capacitors of the PSU (albeit that it must be re-introduced carefully to avoid noise issues). So on my breadboard setup shown above there's actually a fairly repectable 3.8 Amps bias flowing through the follower stage. |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
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How?
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Join Date: May 2009
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Join Date: May 2009
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Join Date: May 2009
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I have to say here and now that the principles are absolutely sound ~ it's not a perpetual motion device
The fundamental principles are the same as those used in Class D amplification but their application is different. I really like single ended Class A. I like the simplicity of a ZEN style two-transistor amp (voltage gain in pre-amp, current gain in power follower). But the heat kills it for me. Class D amps are complicated beasts that I doubt could be assembled on a breadboard - but keeping the switching out of the signal path and using it to manage the unwanted energy in the current sink is proving to be reasonably straight forward and is delivering a massive saving in energy. |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
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I believe some power LED driving chips would work here fine.
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Join Date: May 2009
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Fortunately the switching current is relatively low in the world of switch-mode designs so a small-ish transistor with low gate charge can be selected and the switching frequency can be kept high. The inductor I've used is also a lot higher in value (220uH) than most switchers so the ripple is kept small. I've gone for a toroidal with powdered core to store as much energy as possible while keeping stray field to a minimum. I think this is the best strategy. The differential amp has to be high speed and have an excellent CMRR to handle the rail-to-rail swing of the sense voltage. I used an old OP37 from the junk box with a gain of 10 and it works fine. |
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