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Old 13th April 2009, 03:40 PM   #1
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Default Yamaha HCA circuit

Hello everyone.
I search for description or any info about Yamaha so-called 'Hyperbolic Conversion Amplification'.
Maybe one of you knows something about this circuit or know an article, US patent or any type of info about the circuit.
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Old 14th April 2009, 10:17 AM   #2
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Old 14th April 2009, 02:22 PM   #3
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It doesn't look too complicated. Q201/202 are what's commonly called a "current feedback" input stage, where the inverting input is a low impedance node. These have high slew rate because they operate in class AB, but DC offset is hard to control.

Then Q203/204 are an ordinary complementary VAS.

The next bit is more interesting. The four transistors Q207/208/213/214 are connected as a "diamond buffer", which is just an emitter-follower where the bias voltage is provided by a pair of common-emitter transistors. However, Q213/214 are also drivers for the output MOSFETs, thus there is the Vbe multiplier further back with Q205 instead of the usual diamond buffer which would have the bases of Q207/208 directly connected together.

The four current mirrors just provide the constant currents needed to bias Q207/208, and they also provide short-circuit protection via the two diodes D233/234 (if the output voltage differs from the VAS output voltage by more than ~0.6V then the diodes turn on, removing drive to the output stage).

I don't know where the "Hyperbolic Conversion" comes into it, if that even means anything.

EDIT: I see there is also a bootstrap provided by C215/216. I don't know why they have bothered to put that in when they already have a separate supply voltage for the MOSFETs.
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Old 14th April 2009, 02:54 PM   #4
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Something tells me those current mirrors are going to reduce distortion, making this somewhat of a non switching circuit, I have seen similar russian designs, how old is this amp circuit???
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Old 14th April 2009, 03:24 PM   #5
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I have Yamaha AX-930 (HCA BA3122N ).
HCA use in Yamaha AX-730. AX-1050.AX-1070.AX-1090.MX-2.
MX-630 ...
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Old 14th April 2009, 03:53 PM   #6
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This HCA circuit is a part-of the Yamacha MX-2000 (1988) amplifier schematics.
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http://www.electricalhobby.com/image...10000_ext1.jpg

And the later version of HCA circuit was a IC BA3122N

PS homemodder can you post the schematics of this Russian designs
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Old 14th April 2009, 04:02 PM   #7
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Sorry, It was on some russian site and I stumbled upon it I cannot even remember how, I do not speak russian but had a immigrant here translate it for me, its not the exact circuit but it looks to me its the same principle, Ill have a look if I maybe saved a page from the site like I usually do when I find something interesting, and russian designs are.
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