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Old 28th January 2011, 06:00 AM   #451
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Hi OS

The f14 ferrite needs to be in series with the vas emitter and preferably as close to the vas device as possible. If you use a small emitter resistor on the VAS then the f14 or F25 bead could be installed over the resistor lead closest to the VAS transistor.

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So integrate it with the degeneration resistor that is VERY close to the main VAS device (R17 below) ?. Insulate the resistor lead and pass 2 turns through the f14. Just to be sure ... is this a f14 ??
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Old 28th January 2011, 07:22 AM   #452
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Os, those TV baluns look the part, grade-wise. If they were for VHF reception, rather than just UHF, they'd be suitable. If you have access to the ARRL handbook in some form, it's usually a great guide to ferrites. I see there's some guidelines there too in the catalog you posted. The 6-hole "bead" Dave is using is, in my example, 6mm dia. x10 long.
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A great opportunity, eh? I did the same with ACE Radio in the late 1980s. Indeed, I have a number of those 6-hole formers and wired ones too. There's quite a bit more material in those than your average bead, however. I imagine it would take 2-3 beads of say 3.5 x5 mm to approach those big'uns. It's just well I asked.
Yes they are probably 3x standard beads. I will set up a bread board test cct and sweep Z over 1-50 MHz. I should also really use a 10mA dc bias to better simulate a VAS environment.
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Old 28th January 2011, 08:42 AM   #454
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So integrate it with the degeneration resistor that is VERY close to the main VAS device (R17 below) ?. Insulate the resistor lead and pass 2 turns through the f14. Just to be sure ... is this a f14 ??OS
If it's sold as a vhf grade former then yes it's probably what I call F14.
It's a specific blend of nickel + zinc that's effectively lossy > 10MHz.

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Default Fair -Rite ferrites

This would seem to be the equivalent part in the US. The nearest standard Ni/Zn grade is 43 and fig. 1 (unwound) appears identical. As Dave suggests, a few smaller, plain beads may suffice. I guess we'll hear shortly.

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