2SC3423/2SA1360 models?

bogdan_borko · 19th November 2008, 02:26 PM

Does anyone have spice models for 2SC3423/2SA1360?

homemodder · 19th November 2008, 04:25 PM

.MODEL 2SC3423 NPN(IS=9.98627F BF=2K NF=967.67M VAF=100 IKF=49.6929M ISE=1.04163F NE=1.07574 BR=601.257M IKR=462.798U ISC=32.904P RC=899.97M
CJE=2P MJE=500M CJC=6.42174P VJC=749.999M MJC=499.509M TF=713.346P XTF=500M VTF=10 ITF=9.9976M TR=10N)

.MODEL 2SA1360 PNP(IS=10F BF=134.853 VAF=100 IKF=109.96M ISE=221.874F NE=1.66575 BR=10 IKR=880.176M ISC=187.58P NC=1.90472 RE=1 RC=15.5104
+ CJE=2P MJE=500M CJC=6.24728P VJC=692.028M MJC=340.013M TF=1.08385N XTF=16.9293 VTF=9.36211 ITF=670.025M TR=10N)

bogdan_borko · 19th November 2008, 06:16 PM

thanks!

EDDELARUE · 19th November 2008, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by homemodder
.MODEL 2SC3423 NPN(IS=9.98627F BF=2K NF=967.67M VAF=100 IKF=49.6929M ISE=1.04163F NE=1.07574 BR=601.257M IKR=462.798U ISC=32.904P RC=899.97M
CJE=2P MJE=500M CJC=6.42174P VJC=749.999M MJC=499.509M TF=713.346P XTF=500M VTF=10 ITF=9.9976M TR=10N)

.MODEL 2SA1360 PNP(IS=10F BF=134.853 VAF=100 IKF=109.96M ISE=221.874F NE=1.66575 BR=10 IKR=880.176M ISC=187.58P NC=1.90472 RE=1 RC=15.5104
+ CJE=2P MJE=500M CJC=6.24728P VJC=692.028M MJC=340.013M TF=1.08385N XTF=16.9293 VTF=9.36211 ITF=670.025M TR=10N)

Hi,

Is that acurate models? Where is it from (Orcad , Intusoft , Multisim ) ?

Thanks

-Ed

homemodder · 20th November 2008, 08:51 AM

No spice models that I have seen can be taken as accurate, Andyc a member here has significantly improved some output transistor models to be quite accurate. The rest well....... Its very time consuming to do just one single model and we can be thankful he looked at some, as most are terrible.

The models I gave were placed in this forum. Thats a very good transistor, sims will display superior performance compared to other transistors. However, whether accurate youll have to test them and run some hfe|IC and IC vbe sims and compare to datasheets.

BTW in some of those spice programs I have found the most unaccurate models, you cannot take for granted that those companies did the modelling, they only supply what the manufacturers give and whats out there on the web. One sometimes find 7 different models for a single transistor, which one is the most accurate ???? Only by testing one can tell. The japanese manufacturers dont even supply models so whats out there was most probably done by privates.

EDDELARUE · 20th November 2008, 11:47 AM

Ok!

Thanks for attention.

Regards

-Ed

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19th November 2008, 04:25 PM	#2
homemodder diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	.MODEL 2SC3423 NPN(IS=9.98627F BF=2K NF=967.67M VAF=100 IKF=49.6929M ISE=1.04163F NE=1.07574 BR=601.257M IKR=462.798U ISC=32.904P RC=899.97M CJE=2P MJE=500M CJC=6.42174P VJC=749.999M MJC=499.509M TF=713.346P XTF=500M VTF=10 ITF=9.9976M TR=10N) .MODEL 2SA1360 PNP(IS=10F BF=134.853 VAF=100 IKF=109.96M ISE=221.874F NE=1.66575 BR=10 IKR=880.176M ISC=187.58P NC=1.90472 RE=1 RC=15.5104 + CJE=2P MJE=500M CJC=6.24728P VJC=692.028M MJC=340.013M TF=1.08385N XTF=16.9293 VTF=9.36211 ITF=670.025M TR=10N)

19th November 2008, 06:16 PM	#3
bogdan_borko diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: serbia, zajecar	thanks!

20th November 2008, 08:51 AM	#5
homemodder diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	No spice models that I have seen can be taken as accurate, Andyc a member here has significantly improved some output transistor models to be quite accurate. The rest well....... Its very time consuming to do just one single model and we can be thankful he looked at some, as most are terrible. The models I gave were placed in this forum. Thats a very good transistor, sims will display superior performance compared to other transistors. However, whether accurate youll have to test them and run some hfe\|IC and IC vbe sims and compare to datasheets. BTW in some of those spice programs I have found the most unaccurate models, you cannot take for granted that those companies did the modelling, they only supply what the manufacturers give and whats out there on the web. One sometimes find 7 different models for a single transistor, which one is the most accurate ???? Only by testing one can tell. The japanese manufacturers dont even supply models so whats out there was most probably done by privates.

20th November 2008, 11:47 AM	#6
EDDELARUE diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brasilia	Ok! Thanks for attention. Regards -Ed

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