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Old 29th March 2008, 06:46 PM   #1
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Hi All

Having another look at my old Rotel RB981s with a view to a few more resistor replacements

Here is the schematic

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w...rent=RB981.jpg

so far have replaced C601,C607 and C611 with black gate NX and NX-HQ
and have replaced R601,603,605 and 613 and 651 with Vishay VSRJs with a good effect.More transparency and sweeter treble.

Does anyone think anymore in the circuit are worth replacing?

Thanks for any help

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Old 19th September 2009, 11:31 PM   #2
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What cap values have you used there?

Also I had an idea to replace emmiter resistors with the MPC-78 type that is used in RB-991.

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Old 20th September 2009, 08:48 AM   #3
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Left the values the same.Still love these amps.
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Old 20th September 2009, 10:06 AM   #4
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Yeah, those amps are great! As a matter of fact they are even better than later designs. The Stereophile magazine had been testing RB-991 that has almost the same design as 981 and its replacement RB-1080. I've compared the test results and RB-991 comes as a clear winner. Look at the distortion spectrums and corresponding power levels: 268W for RB-991 and 153W for RB-1080.
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But as I recall there are no NX caps 4.7uF/50V, 10uF/50V, and 100uF/25V. So what NX cap have you used?

I am planning to get some N/NX caps for my RB-981, 971 and other Rotel gear in the nearest future while I still can. But I got stuck on choosing values. I've already bought some BG N 4,7uF/50V, but I think it might be better to replace those 4,7uF and 10uF with film caps. Besides BG N of those values aren't longer available. But for 100uF there is no choice but only BG N or NX. Type N 100uF/50V I have found only in one store and its price went up from $12 to $18. But there are NX 680uF/35V still available for $14. It should be even better as it's more compact than 100uF/50V, has even higher voltage rating than the original cap and finally it's NX. See, that cap sometime might get the whole power supply voltage on it: 56V. So to be on the safe side it should be rated above that. But Rotel put there 25V cap so I guess they consider it acceptable risk. But I don't feel comfortable to place there cap with lesser voltage rating. What do you think?

BTW regarding emitter resistors: I've seen on the eBay regular sales of MPC-74 that are the same low distortion resistors as MPC-78 but just slightly taller and have 5W rating. However 5W in this application might be even better than 2W used in RB-991.

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Old 3rd September 2010, 04:38 PM   #5
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Still got these amps and now two more.Still like them

Anyone who has them try them with the bottom removable plate off.Def better

I presume the ceramic caps across the rectifier briges are to remove switching noise?

Ta All

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Old 4th September 2010, 02:37 PM   #6
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Hi Iliya

Just gonna rip tops off and check.Think they were Ns and not NXs
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Old 4th September 2010, 04:31 PM   #7
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Hi Iliya

R601,603 605,613,651 and 653 changed to Vishay VSRJs
C611 10uf 50v black gate.Non polar so must be N series
C607 100uf 6.3v.Took a risk there I think.Have found some higher voltage 100uf Ns though
C601 4.7uf 50v ns.|Got some 4.7uf NXs around somewhere

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Old 4th March 2012, 09:19 PM   #8
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Hiya,

I just got a second one of these amps after using one for the last 10 years or so. Can't wait to get it hooked up. |Just wondered if you guys had done any more mods and also if you had seen this Speakers (it's about 3/4 of the way down and is about the c601 and 2 caps).

Nice one
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Old 7th March 2012, 05:04 PM   #9
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Hi
I replaced nearly all the resistors with Caddock MK132s.I have sinced with other mods picked up a noticeably flabbier bottom end but I put that down to either changing the input caps from 4.7uf to 47uf or the bypass caps I put on the main power caps.I will remove the bypass caps first then change the input caps to see if that helps.Thats my fault for doing all the changes at once but time was an issue.Or maybe the caddocks are just more revealing of the rotels slightly uncontrolled bottom end.I will see soon how the RB981s fare with a pair of Pro Ac Studio 140s MkII
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Old 2nd July 2012, 06:07 PM   #10
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Fixed
Changed the input caps back to 4.7Uf
Flabby bass gone
Also the amp doesn't seem to like main res caps bypassed(Slit foil caps)
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