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corrieb
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Basic Electronics Question

Hi all,

I hope that one of you can assist. If you look at the image attached you will find the beginning of a differential input stage. Well basically I can calculate/gestimate all the currents and voltages for all transistors except for one. The transistor in question is Q6. From the attached image you will see the results from my simulation marked in red(emitter currents and voltage) and blue(base currents and voltage).

Is there a scientific approach that will allow me to accurately predict the voltages and currents?

Thank you,

CorrieB
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 25th March 2008, 10:29 PM #2 CBS240   diyAudio Member     Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: K-town Hi CorrieB The problem is, in the ideal model of a transistor with the arrangement of Q's 3-4 as the differential and Q2 (source), Q5 (mirror), the current will be perfectly balanced. Real transistor models will very from device to device in the characteristics. There needs to be a feedback relationship between the current in Q6 and the input. A resistor from collector of Q6 to GND or to +12V will create a voltage reference (output) that reflects the current of Q6. This reference needs to be fed back to the input at some level in order to establish an operating point in Q6. IOW, as I see it, the voltage across R3, and thus the current in Q6 is essentially undefined. __________________ All the trouble I've ever been in started out as fun......
 25th March 2008, 10:35 PM #3 Nelson Pass   The one and only     Join Date: Mar 2001 It is guaranteed to be less than 12V/150 ohms = 80 mA
 26th March 2008, 08:33 PM #4 corrieb   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Sep 2005 Thanks for the replies. When designing a VAS stage that is buffered what current levels for the buffer transistor can I use as a recommendation? CorrieB

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