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Join Date: Feb 2003
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I'm confused about the entire copper vs aluminum debate. I hear that copper is superior to aluminum when it comes to drawing heat away from the transistor, but not as good as aluminum at getting rid of it. How is this possible?
Thermal Conductivity @ 0 - 100°C Al 237 W m-1 K-1 Cu 401 W m-1 K-1 Specific Heat @ 25°C Al 900 J K-1 kg-1 Cu 385 J K-1 kg-1 From what I see, copper conducts better but it can't hold as much heat as aluminum. Regardless of capacity, wouldn't you care more about conductivict of heat? |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: mississauga ontario canada
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True, aluminum would slow temperature rise but would also hold the temperature longer after the source of heat is removed.
Aluminum is popular because it is cheap and easily extruded. When I can afford it, and can chose between the two , copper is what I use. For CPU cooling systems, copper is available, for power audio aluminum is very available.
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The ability to radiate heat away into an environment
is a function of the shape and size, the thermal conductivity of the material, and the color of the surface. All other things being equal, superior thermal conductivity = 'better ability to get rid of it". |
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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So would it be a good idea to get a very thin sheet of copper from www.onlinemetals.com, corrugate it and mount transistors to it?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: mississauga ontario canada
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For heatsink types and information try
http://www.wakefield.com/ or http://www.aavid.com/ There are lots of technical papers listed at: http://www.aavidthermalloy.com/technical/index.shtml and probably a few at wakefield as well.
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Not necessarily. Thin sheet has surface area, but not much conductivity, probably less SA than you'd want given the cond.
The best solution would be to take a slab of copper (or silver, for that extra-cool reduction in microphonics and flattening of frequency response ...sorry), braze Cu wires to its backside, and coat those with aluminum, which is then anodized black (black is most emissive to radiation). The aluminum can probably be skipped altogether if a fan is used. Me, I'd just cut up some styrofoam, glue it together in the shape of a heatsink, bury it in sand, and pour aluminum all over it! ![]() Tim (been doing a lot of lost-foam casting lately )
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Quote:
Thermal resistance in C/W means that for every watt of power dissipated by the device, it and the heatsink get "C" degrees hotter right? |
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I believe so, yes...
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diyAudio Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Michigan
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Hi Solid,
Although Nelson answered your original question, I thought I’d provide a link to some threads that “debated” around this topic. You can see some more viewpoints on the subject. http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/searc...der=descending Rodd Yamashita |
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Thanks for the link. On another note, what was it I saw in that thread about heatsinks making noise?!? One guy said he clapped and the fins rang! Someone else said even while driving a dummy load, the heatsink made a ringing noise. How is this possible?
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