Phonic Mar 6 Amp

kinser · 10th October 2007, 05:08 PM

Hi all,
I've searched the forum about this amp but didnt find anything, on the net there is minimal info on this amp.

Is it an good amp? I mean, does it do its job well, dosnt break down or fail often, minimal or no problems to it? reason i am asking is becuase i need an amp to power my TC 2000 sub, and my budget is tight, what I can affored at the moment is (second hand):
Peavey PV8.5C
Phonic Mar 6
QSC MAX/USA850
Crown amcron Geodyne I.

Power to $$ wise, the Phonic will put out the most... I am bridging into an 8 ohm load (DVC 4 + 4 ohms, connected in series)

so what do you guys say? should i take the phonic?

Thanks,
David Resnik

audiomachines · 11th October 2007, 04:36 AM

hello,

IMHO I would go for the Amcron Geodyne 1, they are really good on the 'low end department' a real thumper, high damping factor. I also had the mar 6 amp, their output stage is similar to the QSC (grounded collector) they are really tough amp. But to me they lack a bit of control on the bass. Been using them on my live sound rig for 4 years and it never lets me down.

amcron = real thumper, very good on the bass department
phonic = $/watts wise and gets the job done

just my 2 cents

Regards
audiomachine

kinser · 11th October 2007, 07:39 AM

the Amcron does look like a nice amp, but the thing is its power output is much lower (about 600 watts bridged into 8ohms) than the Phonic (approx' 1300 into 8 ohms bridged), and I'm using a Linkwitz Transform inorder to roll off @27Hz, there for I need the power. a guy has offerd me a Mar 6 for a decent price, slightly cheaper than the Amcron.
no matter what, ill allways have a dilemma, Price Vs Power Vs Performance.

Im going to have a look at this Phonic amp next week, should there be anything to look out for?

Thanks,
David Resnik

zeonrider · 11th October 2007, 09:58 AM

Take the phonic .

Regards zeoN_Rider

audiomachines · 11th October 2007, 10:08 AM

hi,

Maybe it would be a good idea to open the lid of the amp and have a look inside, check if the toroidal transfo and the filter/output caps for signs of "cooking".The output tranies of these amps were the monster MT-200 package Sanken transistors with peak current ratings of 30 amps. You get 5 pairs of transistor per channel. The output transistor were ''almost'' impossible to blow. As I recall, I have a costumer came to my shop with a blown mar6 amp. Upon checking, the outputs were ok, only the toroid transfo got zap.

Ragards,
audiomachine

audiomachines · 11th October 2007, 10:20 AM

aaahhhh and we had zeon_Rider, the phonic man

and If you had troubles with your phonic amp he is the man to run to

zeonrider · 11th October 2007, 10:25 AM

It is very BAD !
I have over 50y.
Very BAD !

Regards zeoN_Rider

audiomachines · 11th October 2007, 10:39 AM

the owner of the amp tried to pump the amp on a .005 ohm load (dead short) and what kind of amp would withstand that with output trannies intact. go phonic go

get the phonic

kinser · 11th October 2007, 11:05 AM

wow!

Talking
all right then ill get him to crack it open and ill have a look!

thanks for the help guys, ill be intouch with both of you in the future!
finally i will be able to so what my TC sub is capable of...(28mm Xmax, 41mm Xmech, one-way)!!

Thanks,
David Resnik

10th October 2007, 05:08 PM	#1
kinser diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: R'aanana	Phonic Mar 6 Amp Hi all, I've searched the forum about this amp but didnt find anything, on the net there is minimal info on this amp. Is it an good amp? I mean, does it do its job well, dosnt break down or fail often, minimal or no problems to it? reason i am asking is becuase i need an amp to power my TC 2000 sub, and my budget is tight, what I can affored at the moment is (second hand): Peavey PV8.5C Phonic Mar 6 QSC MAX/USA850 Crown amcron Geodyne I. Power to $$ wise, the Phonic will put out the most... I am bridging into an 8 ohm load (DVC 4 + 4 ohms, connected in series) so what do you guys say? should i take the phonic? Thanks, David Resnik

11th October 2007, 09:58 AM	#4
zeonrider diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgrade RS	Hi! Kinser Take the phonic . Regards zeoN_Rider

11th October 2007, 10:25 AM	#7
zeonrider diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgrade RS	Hi! audiomachine It is very BAD ! I have over 50y. Very BAD ! Regards zeoN_Rider

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11th October 2007, 04:36 AM	#2
audiomachines diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: silang, cavite	hello, IMHO I would go for the Amcron Geodyne 1, they are really good on the 'low end department' a real thumper, high damping factor. I also had the mar 6 amp, their output stage is similar to the QSC (grounded collector) they are really tough amp. But to me they lack a bit of control on the bass. Been using them on my live sound rig for 4 years and it never lets me down. amcron = real thumper, very good on the bass department phonic = $/watts wise and gets the job done just my 2 cents Regards audiomachine

11th October 2007, 07:39 AM	#3
kinser diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: R'aanana	the Amcron does look like a nice amp, but the thing is its power output is much lower (about 600 watts bridged into 8ohms) than the Phonic (approx' 1300 into 8 ohms bridged), and I'm using a Linkwitz Transform inorder to roll off @27Hz, there for I need the power. a guy has offerd me a Mar 6 for a decent price, slightly cheaper than the Amcron. no matter what, ill allways have a dilemma, Price Vs Power Vs Performance. Im going to have a look at this Phonic amp next week, should there be anything to look out for? Thanks, David Resnik

11th October 2007, 10:08 AM	#5
audiomachines diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: silang, cavite	hi, Maybe it would be a good idea to open the lid of the amp and have a look inside, check if the toroidal transfo and the filter/output caps for signs of "cooking".The output tranies of these amps were the monster MT-200 package Sanken transistors with peak current ratings of 30 amps. You get 5 pairs of transistor per channel. The output transistor were ''almost'' impossible to blow. As I recall, I have a costumer came to my shop with a blown mar6 amp. Upon checking, the outputs were ok, only the toroid transfo got zap. Ragards, audiomachine

11th October 2007, 10:20 AM	#6
audiomachines diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: silang, cavite	aaahhhh and we had zeon_Rider, the phonic man and If you had troubles with your phonic amp he is the man to run to

11th October 2007, 10:39 AM	#8
audiomachines diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: silang, cavite	the owner of the amp tried to pump the amp on a .005 ohm load (dead short) and what kind of amp would withstand that with output trannies intact. go phonic go get the phonic

11th October 2007, 11:05 AM	#9
kinser diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: R'aanana	wow! Talking all right then ill get him to crack it open and ill have a look! thanks for the help guys, ill be intouch with both of you in the future! finally i will be able to so what my TC sub is capable of...(28mm Xmax, 41mm Xmech, one-way)!! Thanks, David Resnik

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