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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Hi knowledgable diyAudio folks. I thought maybe someone here in their infinite tinkering wisdom can help me out.
I have a Primare Integrated Amp (75W - http://www.sumikoaudio.net/primare/products/i21.htm) that I got about 2 weeks ago. I'm saving up to get a nice Seas or Vifa kit to build so in the meantime, I dug out some old Logitech Z-680 satellites from a computer speaker set. These are rated at 10 kOhm and I plugged them into the Primare without a thought. Everything worked fine until last night. I turned on the amp and pop/crack sounds came from both channels. I thought i might have been the source (going from computer optical > ART D I/O > Amp) but I plugged in a dvd player with RCAs and got the same result. What's worse is that the volume doesn't do anything on the amp. Did I kill the amp with the wrong speakers? Or did the amp just break on me? I bought this used so Primare won't cover any repairs. =( |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Norwich, UK
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You've probably toasted the speakers.
You need to check with some decent speakers, really. If you are lucky, the amp will have a protection system against dead speakers, and will have survived. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I would suspect that the powered Logitech Z-680 satellites fried on
their own. The Primare Integrated Amp was driving them with the preamp out which would drive a 10kohm load well. Just a case of overdriving. The preamp outputs are most likely capable of 5V to 8V which would be a big amount for little computer speaker inputs designed for small signal sources. If the volume on the speakers was set to low, then more preamp voltage would be required at the inputs of the powered speakers. Test the speaker outputs first: voltmeter on DC. . .there should be some DC offset 5mV to 50mV. Then set the voltmeter to AC. . . play a souce and increase the volume. . .the meter should move. . . IF you somehow connected the main outputs from the integrated to the 10kohm inputs. . .they would play very loud with very little volume control. . . and would distort and crapout very quickly.. . most unlikely. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
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In my testing, I found that adjusting the volume control is changing the nature of the static. At 0, the sound is loud (even though it's supposed to be silent) but as I turn up the volume, the static changes. At level 8, the sound is low but static free. As I turn, some levels it's completely silent others it's popping and crackling.
Any ideas? |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
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computer optical > ART D I/O > Primare input > Primare Preamp out > Logitech Z-680 satellites. That was your originally setup. Have
you checked the DC offset. . . multimeter on (+) and (-) terminals. You're sure it's the Primare. . .have you plugged in the Logitech Z-680 satellites to the source directly. . .I'm sure you have. . . just thinking out loud. Only two weeks old. . .take it back for warrenty. The ART D I/O has a hot output. . . could have damaged the input circuit of the Primare. . .there are suggestions of using voltage dividers on the output of the ART D I/O. . .but to work as well as it did then just die. . .it might have been time for early component breakdown. . .warrenty? |
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