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Old 8th November 2001, 10:19 AM   #1
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Can anyone help me on the following please,

I have a SONY Mini Disk player the MZR700 which does not have a line out. It does of course have headphone out which drives 32 ohm impedence earphones.
What circuitry do I need to change the earphone out (32 ohm) to a standard line output signal to drive my main amplifier.

I have constructional and soldering experience its the circuit I need!

Thanks in advance for any help,

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Old 8th November 2001, 12:05 PM   #2
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Most likely none.

I asssume you can take the signal as is and connect it to your amplifier.
I'm not a ear-phone specialist but if I remember right the top is left channel, the midsection right and the section closest to the cable are ground. You better check this first.

Take the signal and split it into normal RCA connectors on the amps side.

Just in case the output of the MD is sensitive to capacative loads in might be a good idea to put 100 ohms in series with each channel as early as possible in the phone-plug.

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Old 8th November 2001, 05:17 PM   #3
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Janne,

I think it's better to connect a 470 ohms resistor (or so) from each output to ground terminal, because of the possible leakage current of the electrolytic output capacitors, which can disturb the main amplifier if there is no capacitor at the inputs...

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Old 8th November 2001, 06:31 PM   #4
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P. Lacombe,
That's a good idea, but if there is a cap at the output I think they already have a resistor at the output just to keep the output at ground level.

Bryce66,
you better check that you can measure a resistans between lines and ground at the output of the MD just to make sure.

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Old 9th November 2001, 12:13 AM   #5
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100 Ohms series resistors seems sufficient for me, mostly you will not need any circuit for matching. I tried both with different headphone outputs. Just remember the output volume setting.
As far as I know this output is intended to work also as a line output - the Sony is a small machine with not much space. Isn't there the mic input also working as a line input ?

Hedlund is right with the connection schema - there is no difference to a "normal" line stereo 3.5 jack (Tip-L, Ring-R, Ground).

If the volume is too high you can make a cable with a passive attenuator (a pad).

For a -14dB cable it would look like this:

<pre>
<font face=courier>
output-------------// cable //----------2k------input
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510R
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output-ground------// cable //------------------input-ground
</font>
</pre>
The two damping resistors per channel should be soldered in the output phono plug.



Normally any parallel resistors are not necessary, because a headphone output should not have an "open" cap at the output (to avoid the "plop" when you plug in the phones).
Cheaply constructed headphone outs (in budget CD players) sound worse than the line output because of the headphone amplifier distortions at low volumes and an increase of noise.


good luck
Klaus

[Edited by Jason on 11-09-2001 at 04:00 AM]
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Old 9th November 2001, 12:17 AM   #6
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Default correction

Sorry, the ascii graphics did not print correct.
The 510R resistor should obviously be after the 2k resistor!

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Old 9th November 2001, 09:02 AM   #7
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Should be fixed now, by the way try not to use all capitals in your subject lines as they make the subject lists look awry.
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