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Old 17th July 2007, 11:21 AM   #11
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My Quad has been singing nicely for quite a while now, and I'm fairly pleased with it.

I have a question though, is it possible to change C5 to a larger value, higher quality cap?

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Old 17th July 2007, 11:42 AM   #12
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Hi,

Question for anyone knowing the history of the Quad 405. When first introduced it boasted innovative circuit design. I believe they called it current dumping.

The schematic posted here, however, is an old fashioned quasi complementary design. What happened to all the innovation? When did Quad abandon it?

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Old 17th July 2007, 12:14 PM   #13
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Quad used NPN output devices for robustness (and cost I guess). The 'Current Dumping' scheme means that the lack of linearity of the upper and lower totem-pole transistors isn't a problem, so you can use a quasi-comp output without any performance issues.
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Old 18th July 2007, 11:23 PM   #14
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The Quad 405 is an error canceling amplifier and uses a reactive bridge to combine the output of a class A stage with an unbiased output stage. If you look at the last page here

http://www.dc-daylight.ltd.uk/Valve-...-Evolution.pdf

It is easier to see the configuration than in the original Quad schematic

This is a link to an original article from Quad

http://quad405.com/currentdumping.pdf

and this one to further discussion about this inovative design

http://quad405.com/jaes.pdf

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Old 19th July 2007, 09:02 AM   #15
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Alex mm

You appear to have copied one of the features of the 405 PCB accurately - you have an electrolytic capacitor along side the R30/R31

L2 should not be 3.3uH - If you are aiming for accuracy and as you now have the bridge implemented correctly you should make it the calculated value.

The original design articles show how the bridge is derived using resistors and everyone now believes that the use of an inductor L2 is simply to reduce power losses when in fact it could be a 0.3-0.5R resistor with little loss but for the fact that it is fitted to prevent switching spikes from getting to the output and as such it is best that L2 (and all the inductors) are a bit lossy to prevent ringing.

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Old 4th September 2007, 10:26 PM   #16
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Default QUAD with MOSFET output transistors

....Hi
another version of QUAD http://i15.tinypic.com/6hcsgg4.jpg and PCB http://i15.tinypic.com/63ltm6b.jpg .Amplifier will bee tested this weekend ,i hope
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Old 5th September 2007, 07:54 AM   #17
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Mosfet for output? Can't wait for results!
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Old 5th September 2007, 10:32 AM   #18
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Do you have a schematic

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Old 5th September 2007, 11:37 AM   #19
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Default Quad 405 Mos-fet

Hi,

This version was made at Keith suggestion. Thanks Keith !

Schematic vas posted on a Romanian forum.
Here is the link
QUAD 405 Reborn MOS-FET output

We are currently testing, so this is not final.
You are invited to comment this implementation.

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