mosfet amp protection diodes

sakis · 12th May 2007, 08:11 AM

many design have in the gates of mosfet diodes for gate overdrive protection

any body knows if this technic can be also applyied to designs that have quasi output configuration ????

thanks sakis east_electronics@yahoo.gr

fotios · 12th May 2007, 07:15 PM

Try this. But be carefull because i don't have check it in practice. Also as you know, i don't like Mosfets. This method used by John Linsley Hood in his well known 150W Mosfet amplifier project.

fotios · 12th May 2007, 08:01 PM

This scheme of protection zeners becames from the project of JLH slightly modified during 1985 in the hellenic magazine "Ç×ÏÓ" (Sound & Image) from Theodoros Spinoulas if i remember well. This amplifier was the first and the last Mosfet amplifier that i have build in my life. For this protection scheme i am in posetion to confirm that it works fine.

jcx · 12th May 2007, 08:48 PM

mostfets gates without internal gate protection diodes are as likely to fail from excess reverse V as they are from forward V - so the opposing diode in series with the protecting Zener in the above schematics leave the gate oxide at risk

Nelson Pass · 13th May 2007, 12:40 AM

In both schematics, you can get by with only the single zener
diode on each output set - it will not be forward biased in linear
operation and will protect against large negative Vgs as well as
positive.

Also in both schematics, it is wise to put the zener diodes on
the outside of the gate resistors, otherwise you will occasionally
encounter parasitic oscillation.

fotios · 13th May 2007, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nelson Pass
In both schematics, you can get by with only the single zener
diode on each output set - it will not be forward biased in linear
operation and will protect against large negative Vgs as well as
positive.

Also in both schematics, it is wise to put the zener diodes on
the outside of the gate resistors, otherwise you will occasionally
encounter parasitic oscillation.

As i said before, i don't have experience about mosfets. Simply i try to help Sakis. According to your suggestions i changed the schematic to this below. It is correct now?

Leolabs · 14th May 2007, 02:54 AM

Some LATFETs already incoporate protection diodes inside them.

Workhorse · 14th May 2007, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nelson Pass
otherwise you will occasionally
encounter parasitic oscillation.

I haven't encountered yet any oscillation from placing the zeners directly to gate-source terminals

Nelson Pass · 14th May 2007, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fotios
It is correct now?

If you drop D1 it will swing more positive output.

Quote:

Originally posted by Workhorse
I haven't encountered yet any oscillation from placing the zeners directly to gate-source terminals

Not typical, but I have seen it.

fotios · 14th May 2007, 06:18 AM

Let’s start from the beginning because I believe that has become confusion. Below it is the original design of BORA’S LEGEND but redrawn so that it is comprehensible. Because the initial drawing that I had received from sakis was inconceivable.
Maybe mr. Jagodic can confirm that there is not any mistake in the values of components and in the connections of this drawn?

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sakis diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: nea makri athens greece	mosfet amp protection diodes many design have in the gates of mosfet diodes for gate overdrive protection any body knows if this technic can be also applyied to designs that have quasi output configuration ???? thanks sakis east_electronics@yahoo.gr

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fotios diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ΔΡΑΜΑ - North Greece	Try this. But be carefull because i don't have check it in practice. Also as you know, i don't like Mosfets. This method used by John Linsley Hood in his well known 150W Mosfet amplifier project.

12th May 2007, 08:01 PM	#3
fotios diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ΔΡΑΜΑ - North Greece	This scheme of protection zeners becames from the project of JLH slightly modified during 1985 in the hellenic magazine "Ç×ÏÓ" (Sound & Image) from Theodoros Spinoulas if i remember well. This amplifier was the first and the last Mosfet amplifier that i have build in my life. For this protection scheme i am in posetion to confirm that it works fine.

12th May 2007, 08:48 PM	#4
jcx diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: ..	mostfets gates without internal gate protection diodes are as likely to fail from excess reverse V as they are from forward V - so the opposing diode in series with the protecting Zener in the above schematics leave the gate oxide at risk

13th May 2007, 12:40 AM	#5
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	In both schematics, you can get by with only the single zener diode on each output set - it will not be forward biased in linear operation and will protect against large negative Vgs as well as positive. Also in both schematics, it is wise to put the zener diodes on the outside of the gate resistors, otherwise you will occasionally encounter parasitic oscillation.

14th May 2007, 02:54 AM	#7
Leolabs diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bukit Mertajam	Some LATFETs already incoporate protection diodes inside them.

14th May 2007, 06:18 AM	#10
fotios diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ΔΡΑΜΑ - North Greece	Let’s start from the beginning because I believe that has become confusion. Below it is the original design of BORA’S LEGEND but redrawn so that it is comprehensible. Because the initial drawing that I had received from sakis was inconceivable. Maybe mr. Jagodic can confirm that there is not any mistake in the values of components and in the connections of this drawn?

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