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Old 11th May 2007, 05:05 PM   #1
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Question Question about FET 2SK117 in old stereo receiver

I have an old stereo receiver which has two FETs in preamplifier stage, they are 2SK117 and probably they doesn't work. I bought new 2sk117, but what I wish to know; original FET was 2sk117 GR and I have new 2SK117Y. The different between those two FETs is in IDSS,
Y has 1.2~3.0 mA, GR has 2.6~6.5 mA, BL has 6~14 mA.

So my question is, can I use this 2SK117 Y instead 2SK117 GR (Service manual recommended to use 2SK117 GR or BL). What will be if I use that 2SK117Y ?

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Old 11th May 2007, 08:10 PM   #2
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I have an old stereo receiver which has two FETs in preamplifier stage, they are 2SK117 and probably they doesn't work. I bought new 2sk117, but what I wish to know; original FET was 2sk117 GR and I have new 2SK117Y. The different between those two FETs is in IDSS,
Y has 1.2~3.0 mA, GR has 2.6~6.5 mA, BL has 6~14 mA.

So my question is, can I use this 2SK117 Y instead 2SK117 GR (Service manual recommended to use 2SK117 GR or BL). What will be if I use that 2SK117Y ?

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1. mebbe it will work ok
2. mebbe it will sound sound distorted
3. mebbe it will go puf


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Old 11th May 2007, 08:40 PM   #3
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I would also recommend you to use GR or BL. Using Y will probably place the FETs in positive-bias (if e.g. driven by a CCS) -- bad idea.

But it will make life much easier if you have the schematics.


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Old 12th May 2007, 09:20 AM   #4
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But it will make life much easier if you have the schematics.


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OK, here it is...

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Old 12th May 2007, 11:22 AM   #5
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Are you sure the old ones are bad? They aren't known for failure...

One part on your schematic IS known for high-failure...D1 and D2, the VD1212 diodes. They can be replaced with a simple series pair of 1N4148 diodes. If you're having problems with that part of the preamp, get rid of the VD1212 diodes first. Every time I find them, I pull them out.

...looks like a Sansui something-or-other...
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Are you sure the old ones are bad? They aren't known for failure...
I am thinking that someone has connected DVD Player or CD player on that Phono input…



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One part on your schematic IS known for high-failure...D1 and D2, the VD1212 diodes. They can be replaced with a simple series pair of 1N4148 diodes. If you're having problems with that part of the preamp, get rid of the VD1212 diodes first. Every time I find them, I pull them out.
I checked those two diodes by digital multimeter, and they are good.

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...looks like a Sansui something-or-other...
Yes, it is Sansui receiver
What's new on AK ?

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Yes, it is Sansui receiver
Type number?

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Type number?

G8000

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I checked those two diodes by digital multimeter, and they are good.
Well, they nearly always check out fine with the tiny current that a meter puts through them.

I'm not sure that feeding the phono input with a CD player would kill it. I don't think it would have sounded very good, but it really should not blow up the phono stage.

Is the phono dead? Or just sound bad?
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Well, they nearly always check out fine with the tiny current that a meter puts through them.
On what better way I can check this diode?

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I'm not sure that feeding the phono input with a CD player would kill it. I don't think it would have sounded very good, but it really should not blow up the phono stage.

Is the phono dead? Or just sound bad?
I got this receiver in very bad condition, and both channels on this phono stage are dead. I bought in local store some 2SK117 but not BR or GR, just only Y (as I written before different is only in IDSS). So, what will be if I replace that original with this Y FETs? Can it work for a long time, if it will work?

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