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Old 17th March 2013, 02:18 PM   #11
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I have downloaded Kicad and have had a bit of a play with it. I will now have a good play with diptrace and see if I can get it to work so I can see which one is easier to use.

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Old 17th March 2013, 08:08 PM   #12
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Just try Design Spark it may not be the best around but it is FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.....
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Old 29th March 2013, 01:08 AM   #13
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Free PCB software is OK if you are careful.
I prefer something with a bit of error checking.
Nothing worse than a rats nest PCB coz you got it wrong !
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Old 29th March 2013, 03:56 AM   #14
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I'd agree with Nigel, doing a board without DRC and error checking is asking for trouble.

I'm with Bksabath on DesignSpark, it's free, unlimited for board area, pin count and at least 16 layers. It does have Design rule and error checking, quite a bit of it as long as you set up suitable spacings and other parameters - good enough for a novice like me to get a 550 hole board back from China with no errors whatsoever.
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Old 29th March 2013, 04:00 AM   #15
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good enough for a novice like me to get a 550 hole board back from China with no errors whatsoever.
I use China for my pcb manufacture too.
They are a quarter of the price in China that they are in the UK.
From me sending files to getting pcb's back is two weeks.
They have no problem doing small quantities either.
The UK want to charge a fortune for tooling before they start charging for pcb's.
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Old 29th March 2013, 04:07 AM   #16
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Hi Nigel, I've only done it the once. I found a firm in Herts that were agents for their family firm in China. I figured if it all went wrong I could at least get some recompense dealing with a UK firm. I think the direct board houses like pcbcart were not that much cheaper at the time

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Old 29th March 2013, 04:11 AM   #17
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They're still there, Low Cost PCB Prototype Manufacturer, Online Quote, UK PCB Prototype Manufacturer
Haven't re-checked their pricing.
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Old 29th March 2013, 04:16 AM   #18
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I asked for 5 pcb's about 15cm by 15cm and it cost 55.
He actually sent 7 pcb's for the same price as that was what there was in a panel.

Might be worth getting a quote next time.
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Old 29th March 2013, 04:28 AM   #19
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Thanks, I've got that one saved away.

18 mnths back Quick-Teck did me 35 off 12x14cm std 2 sides pth boards for 172.
I just ran their online quote for the same job and it would be 162 now - wow something got cheaper!

To be honest I very rarely need to get boards done properly, mostly I DIY them.
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Old 16th June 2013, 08:08 PM   #20
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Diptrace is good, you can also try Csieda:

https://mega.co.nz/#!rNMmlTyJ!DN7ti0...Z6hqK7N_FlYcQE

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