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Old 30th May 2013, 10:12 PM   #131
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Hi folks!
Building this amp now, and I have some questions. This has probably been answered, but I still don't get it. Could someone please explain to me what VR1, VR2 and VR3 does, and what/where to measure when adjusting?
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Old 5th June 2013, 04:05 PM   #132
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VR1 - Used to set 0v on output, measure on output terminal.
VR2 - Used to set BIAS, measure voltage over R10. Vr=Iq*R10

VR3 - ???
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Old 29th June 2013, 03:44 PM   #133
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Hi,

I just ordered a stereo kit, for your answers please see Fig. 2 from my link below, it's the schematic Ray used to create his PCB ;-)

I hope the small transistors are matched.

The Class-A Amplifier Site - JLH Class-A Update

BR,
Eric

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Old 3rd July 2013, 08:15 PM   #134
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This is very interesting...!!

-I just found this thread - because i was to repair a mis-handled JLH made just before 2000 by me, for a friend... - Shortly why im in this thread today...

In 96' the "revised" JLH 15W was also presented in a Danish magazine ( High Fidelity ), and off course i immediately built it...
Quite soon we started argumenting about the usage of a poor voltage stabilizer to obtain af constant current ofr the input / feedback stage - And a CCS by two tranny's was mounted instead - Spitting Image almost down to every detail exact the schematic used for this one...!! - Just my five cent's .
One minor difference, Though. We found the mounting of a 4.7 Ohms resistor in series with basis of the "negative" output transistor - And utilizin' Match'd Sanken 2SC3264 with superb result's. ...

Nice PCB and service from the Author...!! - I think i'll redraw my own and make a new amp, maybe witt a new input stage - extra transistor to countermeassure the 0.6V mismatch in feedback offset...

/ Lars
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Old 3rd July 2013, 08:28 PM   #135
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Hi folks!
Building this amp now, and I have some questions. This has probably been answered, but I still don't get it. Could someone please explain to me what VR1, VR2 and VR3 does, and what/where to measure when adjusting?
VR2 = Bias... - Set to app. 5-700mv Across R10 330mOhm ( Equals 1.5-2Amps in Bias Current... )

Power the amp to Full Heat ( app. one hour of operation ), and udjust VR1 to 0.00 Volt DC Across the output terminals ( With input shorted / no input / No Speaker )

Turn off the Amp, and allow to cooooool of.
Re-adjust in cold state DC Offset to almost 0.00 with VR3.

Wait for full heat, and repeat adjustment of VR1 + 3 until you're satisfied with the difference in cold and hot state. It should be possible to obtain app. +/- 30 mV DC offset - Which is quite OK. ...


Be aware that End adjustment should be carried out connected to the power plug where the amp is to be used - as the DC Offset is sensitive to variations in Rail Supple - EG dont make the adjustmen on the Lab Vario Transformer, as you dunno exactly that you hit the supply Spot-On. ...!!

Lars / Viborg
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Old 26th October 2013, 10:08 PM   #136
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Thankyou for your quick reply
so would this transformer be acceptable?
Buy Toroidal Transformers Transformer,toroidal,120VA,2x18V,3.333A RS 81548RS online from RS for next day delivery.
If so, do i connect the +18v and -18V to the psu you linked me?
thankyou
The amplifier draws 1,7-2A continuous current on each channel. If you invested in a good capacitor bank with some capacity, this will also require a good transformer to recharge the capacitors between bass / drum strokes which pull a lot of juice.

I'm not even close to remembering the formulas to calculate this, but i wouldn't go with a transformer that barely keep up when the amplifier is idle.

This is the transformer i use for this amplifier and even this one becomes nice and warm. Not hot, just warm.
Antek - AS-4218

The price is nice as well. The shipping costs the same as a transformer, so i would order 2 at the same time. Same shipping cost.

I Have 3 of this amplifier now, with capacitor bank from 2x30.000uF to 2x100.000uF. I can't really say i hear a lot of difference, maybe the bigger one is "feels" a bit stricter with sharp drums, not sure.
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Old 2nd January 2014, 10:45 AM   #137
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I've soldered two of these cards now and are using the Hi-End Power supply board with speaker protecting.
Been trying to use the sc5200 chip.
Anyhow, I burst the fuse on the powersupply card or add a much larger fuse and I heat up R10 on the amplifier PCB. I cannot find the error and cannot find a faulty spot on the soldering. Where do I start to search?
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Old 3rd January 2014, 11:19 AM   #138
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can I run this amplifier on +/- 9 volt power supplies ?
how much output power it will give with 4 amp bias on 3.5 ohm speakers?
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Old 4th January 2014, 05:56 PM   #139
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Default JLH 2005 help

Hi
A friend and i just build a set .
His a faster builder than i am and he send me a sms;"DO NOT CONNECT TO POWER YET
SOMETHING IS WRONG,BURNED ALL MY BD139 AND 4 MJ15003!!!"
We checked his boards against mine and the diagram,all just as the doctor ordered.
Components;right values,right placed and orientated,No shorts,no Discontinuity.
Newer the less,my boards acted exatly the same as his.ARRRGG!!!
The bd139 blows after a few seconds,taking the mj15003 with it !???
Whats wrong?
What should i check ?
Is there a startup position of the potmeters,BEFORE power is applied?

Getting tired and annoyed.

Jan
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Old 5th January 2014, 12:39 PM   #140
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Hi
Just some more info.
Powersupply: +25/0/-25V
With the Cap.mutifier board.
No C3 (shorted) and VR1:200R
Testing:
No speakers connected,input shorted.
18R/10W in serial with power rail.

Jan
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