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Pavel Dudek's super Gainclone group buy - Click HERE for Original Thread
peranders
http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index....+Pavel+Dudek+GB

Finally Pavel has said OK to run a group buy deal. Please sign the list above if you are interested. The first step is only an interest check.
CeeVee
Hi P-A,

Signed in for 2 boards and 4 inductors.

:)
shallbehealed
Are the boards stereo or mono?
CeeVee
Boards are stereo....chip is stereo!:cool:
peranders
quote:
Originally posted by shallbehealed
Are the boards stereo or mono?
If you download the manual you will have info there.
http://sjostromaudio.com/joomla/ind...id=73&Itemid=29
TomWatson
Im down for 2 and 4 inductors!
peranders
Nice! Pavel's pdf has been download many, many times, thousands and now maybe even 10000's. I have no statistics for a period of time. I'll hope this curiosity will result in some boards.
peranders
The real interest is rather cool but I'll hope we can get at least 50 boards. Since a few days 1500 persons have viewed the documention and I see many people comes from Czech republic.
trango
I'm in for one set!

/Fredrik
Tuco
What will be the price ?

Tuco.
peranders
I'll recommend you to read what I have written about the price. You have it in the first section of the wiki page. See link above or in my signature.
bjefferys
I am in for 5 boards and 10 inductors.

Brian
peranders
At the moment there are 28 boards at the list. It would have been nice if we could reach at least 50 boards.
peranders
It seems most likely that we'll reach 50 boards. That's good :nod:
Peter Daniel
I received one of the early boards that Pavel had and I can confirm that they are very well made indeed, just looking at them I learned few tricks myself ;)
peranders
An english BOM is added.
richyrich212t
im in for 4 boards and 4 inductors !!!
Spasticteapot
Depends on the price. I'm poor!
peranders
What is your limit?
neutron7
I would go for 2 boards + 4 inductors

best regards
N7
yusuf
I will go for 2 board + 4 inductors. I may go for 4 board depending on price I can afford.

I updated wiki, I guess 50 boards target is reached.

Thanks,
Yusuf
ThomasS
:)
peranders
quote:
Originally posted by yusuf
I will go for 2 board + 4 inductors. I may go for 4 board depending on price I can afford.

I updated wiki, I guess 50 boards target is reached.
It seems that we'll probably reach even 100 boards. :) :up:
Spasticteapot
quote:
Originally posted by peranders
What is your limit?


Whatever I have in the jar next to my bed.
peranders
Is it one dollar or 10 or 20?

The interest is good as we can see and I'll move further in the project. I will create a new list and you have to start paying me. Paypal is prefered and the currency is SEK which Paypal supports. There are other payment options but please stick to Paypal when it's possible.
Spasticteapot
quote:
Originally posted by peranders
Is it one dollar or 10 or 20?

The interest is good as we can see and I'll move further in the project. I will create a new list and you have to start paying me. Paypal is prefered and the currency is SEK which Paypal supports. There are other payment options but please stick to Paypal when it's possible.


I suppose I could manage $10-$20 for a board, tops, depending on how much it costs to populate it.
yusuf
quote:
Originally posted by peranders

It seems that we'll probably reach even 100 boards. :) :up:


:up:

Cool, so we have sufficient numbers to have some time and price estimation!!!
Jack C.
1 board and 2 inductors for me, please.:)
Mayday
Are there any hard to find components in this design?
yusuf
quote:
Originally posted by Mayday
Are there any hard to find components in this design?

IMO, almost all the components should be easily available. May be author of this thread will have better answer.
EvilYoda
I'm also curious as to how much the rest of the components will cost. The PCBs/inductors will be cheap enough, but a parts list or overall estimate would be awesome :-)
peranders
Have you checked the BOM? You'll have to do this check by yourself. I´The total cost is very much dependent of how much you have in your junk drawers and where you plan to buy the rest.
imix500
I'm in for 2 boards and 4 inductors.
yusuf
curious about timeline.

As you can see I am excited about this project :)
peranders
I'll expect to start collecting money in few days and then give people 10 days for payment. After that it takes 3 weeks, maybe 4. After that a couple of days to winding coils and do the packaging. The shipment will take 3-5 days to most places in the world, max 10 days.
wim
i signed in, but what is the price for a board and a ready made inductor??
valo
Hello
Iam in for 2 boards and 4 inductors , do you use paypal
peranders
Yes, Paypal is prefered (have you read the wiki page about payment :idea: ). It seems that the interest is about 100 pcb's. I will very soon create the real list and collecting money.
jaybombalous
Well with work and stuff its hard for me to keep up with this thread ATM. I signed up myself for 2 boards and 4 inductors. I am just waiting to find out the price of the board so I can pay you through paypal.


Can anyone tell me how I can keep track of specific threads, like maybe get an e-mail when this thread is updated??? Edit: Yeah I finally found the user cp link!


Anyway, I will be purchasing the boards so please don't throw me aside if you don't see me for a few days. :)
peranders
Very soon the price will be set so have a subscribtion of this thread and you will be updated.
orto
I'd be interested in making this the first amp I build. Does this seem wise? Seems like the pcb simplifies alot of the wiring. I could maybe lean on the rest of you group buyers as well :eek:
peranders
Much is won if the wiring already is done (by Pavel). By that you'll get a predictable result. This is worth much :nod:
Upupa Epops
Thank you guys for your interest, today's number of PCB's interested persons is really surprise for me :cool: . But I have one question - how I see, most of you want more than one desk and I'm asking : for what do you can use them ? For active boxes or for your friends ? Do you have interest to develope active x-over or preamp for this module ? What do you need more ? Your notices will be welcome...
CeeVee
You have done a fantastic job on this ....as usual!
You should not be surprised by the response.
It seems P-A and myself agreed as soon as we saw it.
Aengus
Upapa Pops said:
quote:
for what do you can use them ? For active boxes or for your friends ? Do you have interest to develope active x-over or preamp for this module ? What do you need more ?

Speaking for myself, I have put in for 8 channels because I would like to experiment with an open baffle (a la Linkwitz, but using drivers I already have); so, YES, I would be very interested in an active crossover that integrates with the amplifier module.

Upapa, are you thinking of making the crossover so it uses power from the amp module?

Regards.

Aengus
Upupa Epops
Power consumption from module is pratically only llimited by power dissipation of serial zener diode, i.e. approximately 200 mA. It is value, which make possible to use minimally twony pcs of " normal " opamps. It is enough for most of " cooperated " circuits, by my opinion we don't need other PS...
Aengus
Sounds good. That means I could set up integrated "quad-blocks", each with 4 channels of amplification plus x-overs, near each speaker. This would make the cable run from the pre-amp nice and compact.

Upapa, I remember that you mentioned earlier in the thread that you had begun work on an active crossover - would you mind telling us how far you've got?

And, while I'm writing, let me thank you for sharing your work with us - it sure makes life easier on those of us who are, um, somewhat lacking in technical skill :xeye:

Regards.

Aengus
Upupa Epops
Our team ( CzechAudio ) prepare quite universal " super x-over ", which will know " everything ". It will be modular conception, two, three, three and half, four way, state variable, 24 dB/oct, phase correction, baffle step etc. etc. . Design is ready, at this time we draw pcb's, total thirteen ones and it is rather many work. Some parts from this design I can eventually to use with this modul ( simplified, offcourse ). Be patient... :)
trango
I think the attention is well deserved, as far as I can say, it's an outstanding design.
quote:
But I have one question - how I see, most of you want more than one desk and I'm asking : for what do you can use them ? For active boxes or for your friends ? Do you have interest to develope active x-over or preamp for this module ? What do you need more ? Your notices will be welcome...

I will buy 2-5 pcs depending on price. I don't know today how they will be used, I may use them in my Linkwitz Orion setup or maybe build a couple of amps to give to friends. Active-X-over and preamp would both be appreciated!

Thanks

Fredrik
jaybombalous
Maybe I missed something... but is there a parts list written in english?

Sry, a little to new to try and understand a new language and a new hobby all at once.
EvilYoda
If you check the instruction manual on his page (it's a PDF), there's a parts list at the very end. I'm also new to this, but figured that with such a well designed PCB, that this would be a good amp to tackle.
Upupa Epops
Look at PA03 BOM english :cool:
peranders
The sharp list is up now. Please start to email me and pay me as fast as possible. Please read how I want the payment should be done.
bobgroger
P-A,
I am not the sharpest pencil in the box, so it's no surprise I find the shipping charge somewhat confusing. You have 3 columns listed. Shipping, regular, and registered. If we want regular mail do we pay "shipping" plus "regular?
2 boards to USA 25+195=220SEK?

Thanks for doing this!
Bob G.
orto
Has anybody from the states figured out a rough estimate to the cost of populating these pcbs? I've been trying to with the BOM excel sheet, but am quite the newb.
postalrat
Are the columns "Regular SEK" and "Registered SEK" correct in the "The world, all prices in SEK" table? They seem a little low. From what I read they should be slightly higher then the values in "Europe, all prices in SEK" but are infact lower in some instances.

Should I just multiply 105 by the number of boards and add the shipping listed in "The world, all prices in SEK" plus 65 additional SEK if I want registered mail?
EvilYoda
Seems pretty straightforward...I'll email you tonight and to the US, it looks like 2 boards with readymade inductors is 235SEK for regular shipping, which is roughly $33-34USD.
peranders
quote:
Originally posted by postalrat
Are the columns "Regular SEK" and "Registered SEK" correct in the "The world, all prices in SEK" table? They seem a little low. From what I read they should be slightly higher then the values in "Europe, all prices in SEK" but are infact lower in some instances.

Should I just multiply 105 by the number of boards and add the shipping listed in "The world, all prices in SEK" plus 65 additional SEK if I want registered mail?
Thanks, some errors :bigeyes: corrected

"Shipping SEK" is the fee for regular mail, 25, 50 ,80 SEK etc as info only.

"Regular SEK" is the total cost, boards + regular mail
"Registered SEK" is the total cost, boards + registered mail
peranders
quote:
Originally posted by postalrat
Are the columns "Regular SEK" and "Registered SEK" correct in the "The world, all prices in SEK" table? They seem a little low. From what I read they should be slightly higher then the values in "Europe, all prices in SEK" but are infact lower in some instances.

Should I just multiply 105 by the number of boards and add the shipping listed in "The world, all prices in SEK" plus 65 additional SEK if I want registered mail?
The price for you is the columns "Regular SEK" and "Registered SEK"
peranders
I'm off. See you on Monday, late. Meanwhile you can pay me.
jaybombalous
The way I see it,


210 SEK (2 pcb's plus RM induc.) + 25 SEK (Shipping for rest of world 'USA' 2 pcb's) = 235 SEK

235 SEK = $34.02 US dollars.

Yes???
Mayday
quote:
Originally posted by jaybombalous
The way I see it,


210 sek(2 pcb's plus RM induc.) + 235 (Shipping for rest of world 'USA' 2 pcb's) = 445

445 SEK = $64.43 US dollars.

Yes???

I'm not sure but I think you got it wrong, P-A wouldn't charge 235sek for shipping alone. 235sek is incl regular shipping.
jaybombalous
Yes, I see now what he meant, sry for the confusion!!! I fixed it.
Mayday
I admit I haven't read the entire thread, but will there also be a groupbuy of the components? Could get costs down a bit.
orto
A group buy of the components hasn't been mentioned yet, but I'm sure a group could be put together. I would be in.
kingbowser
quote:
Originally posted by Mayday
I admit I haven't read the entire thread, but will there also be a groupbuy of the components? Could get costs down a bit.

This would be a great idea!
Upupa Epops
Most expensive parts are made by italian manufacturers : Pada ( heatsink ), Kendeill ( PS capacitors ), Finder ( relays ), although similar devices you can find all around the world... :cool:
EvilYoda
A group buy of the components would be excellent...but could very quickly turn into a huge mess. I imagine that if someone were to gather the parts numbers for the US buyers, that could simplify things, as shipping would be limited to the states.

Unfortunately (of course), I would be unable to contribute for another 1-2 months due to my schedule. :( (I think I might just sit on the boards til late summer and fool around with a kit from Peter Daniel or something...something to whet my appetite)
peranders
Hello, guys! I'm back now and I have answered all emails (quite many).

Rather many haven't responed yet, please hurry up.
peranders
A couple of you guys have hidden email addresses, you must get in contact with me if you want any boards. The rest of you guys which I have sent email to and haven't responded, is this a sign of "want no boards after all"?

So far the money collecting has gone very smoothly thanks to Paypal. Only a very few of you have chosen other sorts of payment.
EvilYoda
Emailed you and paid you...should I change the wiki or will you do it?
peranders
This is fixed already.
peranders
A last request for those who paid interest but not have responed. Very soon will I make the deadline.
dviswa
Hi Peranders,

I hope I am not too late, please put me down for 2 PCBs with inductors. One PCB is enough for 2 channels right?

Shipped to USA.

Sending you a PM too.

Thanks a lot,
Dinesh
peranders
Put yourself at the list as fast as you can. The pcb is stereo.
peranders
The 25th April 2007 are the boards expected and all boards will be delivered max 2 weeks later.
jaybombalous
Thanks for the update... I will be on call for a whole week in may, 24-7 for a special event. This should give me plenty to do while I await for something to break.
goat671
Is it possible to get in on this or am I to late
peranders
This is in the very last minute so hurry up.
jaybombalous
tomorrow is the 25th, lets hope there is no delay in the production of these boards.

Thanks again pavel and peranders for all the great work on this group buy.
peranders
The pcb's will turn up very soon now but the inductors will be delivered in 1-2 weeks. Expect up to three weeks delivery time from that I have got the pcb's. I will notifiy each person when I post the pcb's.
Aengus
Hi P-A

Thanks for keeping us posted.

Regards.

Aengus
peranders
I want to inform you all and that is fast and correct info is vital for projects such as these. If anything changes in either way I will write it here so there is no need for you to email me about the status. Subscribe to this thread and you'll have the latest news. When I post a letter I will send a message to the person in mind and also change the wiki page.
peranders
The pcb's are ready for delivery to me. I'll pick them up tomorrow if I'll have the time.
peranders
I have the pcb's now :) They look very nice, as my boards usually do :nod: Picture will come.
yusuf
Great! You are making me eager :)
bobgroger
What should we be looking for in a heat sink? Dimensions and C\W rating? Also, heat sinks need to be isolated from chip or ground? Looking for USA distributor..

Thanks,
Bob G
Upupa Epops
Dimensions you can find at P-A pages and all is written on instruction manual...
peranders
A pile of boards.:cloud9: :lickface:

The military green board is the new one, at the right.
TomWatson
Seeing that huge stack of pcb's made my day Peranders, thank you. Cant wait to get my mono-blocks rocking!:D
orto
Sure makes me wish I would have got in on this! Maybe next time...
bobgroger
quote:
Originally posted by Upupa Epops
Dimensions you can find at P-A pages and all is written on instruction manual...

Heat Sink info is at http://www.padaengineering.com/pada/pdf/Pada_83_110.pdf
100x100x40m 1.7C/W
ppcblaster
quote:
Originally posted by peranders
A pile of boards.:cloud9: :lickface:

The military green board is the new one, at the right.


PA,

The pile of boards looks good, I see the outline for the heatsink.

Can you supply the exact heatsink to fit the board? I wouldn't

have to search all over looking for something to work.

Thank You
peranders
http://madaboutsound.com/prod_det.asp?product_id=27

This should fit? What do you say, Pavel?

http://www.fischerelektronik.de/fis...archResult=true

Fisher SK92
Upupa Epops
Profile is OK, but high is too low ( 50 mm ) - 100 mm is mandatory...
jaybombalous
Your second link was broken for me PA. Is this what you where trying to link to. 100 x ? x 40mm

? = lengths of 50/75/100/150 etc.



http://www.fischerelektronik.de/index.php?id=114&L=1
Upupa Epops
Yes, 100 mm and more...
peranders
Farnell has it.

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/Prototypi...jsp?sku=4621580

Art nr 4621580
peranders
Tomorrow, the coils are being made so it means that I can start mailing the letters.
ex007
How many are intrested of doing a group buy of the resistors for the board. If i get 35-40 buyers I can set togheter a package for all resistors for about 50 SEK including mail (Sweden).

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