| Sillyboy |
Could use a little help (maybe point me to the correct Amp forum :))
I inherited the Soundstream D200. By default its dual mono, but supports bridged (which is what I want to do, gonna drive a single sub). The pdf that I found on the web basically says "send it to soundstream for a minor internal modification". I am hoping someone knows what that modification would be :)
For that matter, its possible the amp is already configured that way... but I wouldn't be sure how to check.
Horrible pictures of insides from the web if that helps:
http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com...200/inside1.jpg
I am happy to open mine up and take a good pic though. |
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| Sillyboy |
Okay, I just opened mine up... and there is a switch inside :) heh.
Just need to figure out which way it goes and I am good. Excuse the interuption :) |
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| justonemoreamp |
Easy question,
In one position it will sound like Po-Po. In the correct position the amp will sound fine when bridged.
It won't hurt anything to test the amp to find this out. The correct position will only switch the signal in on one channel to the inverting input so its properly phased to bridge with the other output.
Hope this helps :) |
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| Zero Cool |
This is one of the good ones! Designed by none other then the amp god himself Nelson Pass!
There is a very long story behind these amps. something about Nelson designed these for one company and then that company gave away or sold or one engineer left or something and soundstream ended up with them and law suits and all kinds of stuff. But the basic design as i understand it is a Pass!
Later D-II models added a better power supply section and a few other mods but did not sound as good. this could definitly use a power supply upgrade but keep the circuit the same.
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| sth |
Please don't use this sweet amp to power a subwoofer.
pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaasssseeee :bawling: :bawling: |
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| Sillyboy |
heh, ya, not the first time I heard that actually.
What can I say. my car needs a sub, the amp fills the needs, and was free from my brother. Sad, but what are you gonna do? :)
What would you recommend, forget the rear channels in the car, and use this dual mono sub to drive front speakers? |
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| sth |
Maybe you sell the amp to somebody who esteems it.
You'll get enough money to buy a good amp with about 600-800W RMS for your sub. |
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| dynosaur |
| i have the manual and schematic if that helps. I can email them to you ....they are to big to post here.. |
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| Nismoron |
I have 5 of these D series amps and am about to buy a 6th. I originally bought (2) D200's to run (2) Orion XTR12's (original ones). Then I bought (2) D100's to run one on each door. Each door was to have an ADS 320i component set and then finally a D60 to run another 320i component set in the rear. All run through and Altec Lansing ALQ20 control center. I bought all the stuff and never installed it. It sat for many years. I now have it split into 2 cars. I have a 200, 100 and 60 in my wife's truck and will have the same in my car as soon as I find another 60.
The switch inside is not a mono/stereo switch. It is a switch between the 2ohm and 4 ohm taps on the toroids in the power supplies. In one position it is for 4ohm stereo or 8 ohm mono. In the other position it is for 2 ohm stereo or 4 ohm mono use. Unfortunatly it is not labeled and soundstream tech support was of no use. If it looks like the amp was never tampered with, then it is in the 4ohm stereo position. To bridge the amp you merely use both positive leads as your speaker hook-ups.
As for the history, yes they were designed by Neson Pass. I have never heard the part about the other company or the law suites, but it may be true. |
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| gixxer1g |
| Sorry not trying to hi-jack, but I'm not being allowed to create a new thread...but this isn't too far off-topic. Anyway... Hello. New guy, here. I need to replace a Soundstream D200II, which was recently stolen from my vehicle. The amp was running my hybrid front-stage (ADS 320is tweets and x-overs w/ Dynaudio MW160 7 mids). Unbelieveable sound! I've been keeping an eye on ebay, but I haven't seen a D200 or D200II listed. I've auditioned several amps as replacements, but can't find anything that comes close to the detail & transparency the Soundstream delivers. Any suggestions as to what other "old school" amps I can consider that will give me the same or better SQ as the Soundstream? Thanks. |
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| Nismoron |
D200's and D200II's are on Ebay all the time. I watch every one that I see, just to see what it goes for. Generally they get from 175 to 225. I see a couple per month on there.
As for other old school amps that I would recommend would be the following. Not trying to start a debate. Just old amps that I would consider for my own system that are in that power range.
(1) A/D/S PQ10 or PQ10.2 They were 40x4, but briged to somthing like 80 or 100X2. Very nice sounding amps. I have owned several. A little warmer sounding than the D200.
(2) A/D/S PQ20 or PQ20.2 They were 80X4, but briged to somthing like160 or 200X2. Very nice sounding amps. I have owned several of these as well. They too are a little warmer sounding than the D200, but they have BALLS!!! Probably my favorite amps that I have ever owned. They are on Ebay all the time too, generally $200-$300 gets one. A/D/S also made a PH15 that was 50X6 (100X3), if that will integrate into your sytem.
(3) The only other amp that I can think of is the Harman Kardon CA260. It was 60X2 or 180 X1 and was WAY underated. It had something like 5 or 6 db of headroom. Still to this day, unheard-of power. I have owned one and it was incredible. It got stolen, and I have never been able to get hold of another. They appear on ebay every so often and generally go for $125-200. They just seem to pop up when I have no money. Like now! There is one on ebay. There is also a PQ10 and a PQ20.
Many people might say that the OLD Orion or PPI amps are comparable, but they seem to have a more "mechanical" sound to me.
Oh, or if you can find one of the old grey Phoenix Gold MS-275's. They were quite nice and weighed in at an under rated 75X2. I saw a broken one go for 70 something buck the other day!
This list is nowhere near all inclusive, it was just all that I could think of at the moment. If you have any questions, ask. I am ALWAYS willing to give a strong and biased opinion. hahaha! |
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| gixxer1g |
| Hey Nis, thanks man. Sounds like we're from the same era of car-audio. Odd you mention the "old" Orion pieces, as I have a vintage HCCA225 powering my front-stage, now. What's your take on the D200 vs the D200II? In one of the post above, Zero Cool seems to think the D200 has better sound, albeit w/ a weaker power supply. Also, I've heard quite a bit about the Class A Picasso's. How do those fair, compared to the D200's? I'd be running the Picasso bridged...would there be a significant degradation in SQ? Again, thanks to you and any others who offer help. |
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| Nismoron |
I started in car audio in about 86 and retired from installing professionally in 2000. I tend to like the stuff that left the biggest impressions on my younger days. Almost always the stuff I could not afford back then and cant find now! I didn't even look at car audio for about 5 1/2 years after I quit. Now I am looking back into it as a hobby and am just STUNNED at the industry a whole. Everything is ****! My wife's truck with a D200 on 2 Quart 8's is crushing a friend at work with 2 new Kicker 10's on some sort of 1000watt mono D-class junk. And the sound quality isn't even close. It's really funny because he is just baffled. I tried explaining his mid 80's db efficiency woofers are way too power hungry compared to my 90ish db old school "junk". He just cant understand why my 360 watt old stuff is louder and cleaner than his 2000 watts. And he will never understand the Soundstream D-series advantage! hahaha He scoffs. Gaa, they dont even have built in crossovers! Must be cheap ****. hahaha. Kids!
As for the original vs. II debate. I have compared them side by side. I liked the sound of the original better. They were very, very close. But to further fuel the debate. I have also compared original vs original and they sounded a little different from each other as well.
I cant speak on the Picasso. I have never even seen one. The shop here, dropped Soundstream right as they stopped making the D series. I haven't heard much else that soundstream has ever made. I judged a few soundstream equiped cars over the years. But there are so many differences in head units, speakers, cars, and most of all, INSTALLS. That they would be impossible to compare. |
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| Nismoron |
| A D200II just popped up on Ebay. |
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| gixxer1g |
| Zero Cool, you suggests upgrading the power supply of the Soundstream D200. Seems as though you're quite familiar w/ the D200. Is this upgrade really necessary & how will this affect the sound/SQ? I purchased one on eBay and something tells me it's either been repaired before or will need some repair, now. What does upgrading the power supply entail? Will there be any resulting degradation of the excellent SQ of this amp? Is there anyone you recommend to perform this upgrade & check for any anomalies? Thanks for any assistance provided. |
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| guitarkirb |
I too have two old D200 amps. One is phenominal sounding. The other sounds fine, but has small crispy artifacts in the sound as well as actual audible mechanical sounds coming from the chassis of the amp itself while it is running. Maybe some sort of switching noise from the power supply? Currently I have it bridged driving a single 10" MB Quart sub because I can't hear the noises through the driver. Anyone know what this might be? Dried out electrolytic caps in the power supply? Bad filtering components in the power supply?
How about this power supply upgrade I hear about? What does that entail?
Both amps have some turn-on noise that I'd like to remedy, especially the sub amp, which has quite a knocking sound when powering up.
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| troystg |
Hi and let me start by hijacking this thread... :D
I noticed that "dynosaur" mentioned he had the schematic for the D200.
I just picked up a lifeless d100II and will be rebuilding it. By rebuilding I simply mean replacing all the passive parts (resistors and caps) and transistors. I'm working on the ASSUMPTION that the transformer is still good.
Does anyone have the schematic for the D100 or D100II (I have one of each)?
I'm hoping to "refresh" them and replace my less than stellar a/d/s/ P640.2. My old a/d/s/ PQ20 was great, I replaced it with a newer version (P640.2) and have not been impressed. Looking back the two best amps I owned personally were the PQ20 and the D100. Looking at ampguts.com I feel much better about refreshing a Dx00(II) so I will go that route.
Yes I still have my trusty Erath servo system on my Orion 2125sx and a single a/d/s/ 10" in a .25 cft box (flat to 20Hz), but I need to fix up the front end amplification.
Any help on the schematic would be helpful.
I hope to document it for amp guts (along with the a/d/s/ P640.2 before it's sold) and for others interested in something similar. |
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| ppia600 |
| So are the soundstream amps any better at sq than other amps of that time like blade, carver, audio art, ppi, etc...? I would imagine having two mono amps would be advantageous for stereo seperation, etc.. but what else is good about that series of soundstream? I've heard them in other peoples' systems and heard about them for years, but never owned one. Is the D200 a late eighties model, the board looks kind of primitive? |
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| Nismoron |
| I have owned Carver, PPI, Orion, Nak, A/D/S and many others. The soundsteams are by far my farorites except maybe the old A/D/S stuff (PQ20/PH15/PQ10/etc). As for the primitive boards, I dont care if the board is made of plywood and bailing wire if it sounds good. I hardly do ANY critiacl listening of my 2 mobile systems (Soundream amps and ADS speakers) because my home setup destroys it. It is an Ancient HK tube amp that looks like it was assmbled by a child out of paperclips and bubble gum.... But it sounds wonderful! Looks arent everything. Besides, the shortest point from A to B on a circuit board is not a tiny trace winding all around and on both sides of a board. It is probably a short piece of jumper wire sticking up and looking ugly! Funtion over form. |
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| Flyin11 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nismoron
I started in car audio in about 86 and retired from installing professionally in 2000. I tend to like the stuff that left the biggest impressions on my younger days. Almost always the stuff I could not afford back then and cant find now! I didn't even look at car audio for about 5 1/2 years after I quit. Now I am looking back into it as a hobby and am just STUNNED at the industry a whole. Everything is ****! My wife's truck with a D200 on 2 Quart 8's is crushing a friend at work with 2 new Kicker 10's on some sort of 1000watt mono D-class junk. And the sound quality isn't even close. It's really funny because he is just baffled. I tried explaining his mid 80's db efficiency woofers are way too power hungry compared to my 90ish db old school "junk". He just cant understand why my 360 watt old stuff is louder and cleaner than his 2000 watts. And he will never understand the Soundstream D-series advantage! hahaha He scoffs. Gaa, they dont even have built in crossovers! Must be cheap ****. hahaha. Kids! |
I don't know...I got into car audio in the middle 90's and so on....I'm no kid now, I'm 31 but I have never heard of Orion or Soundstream. I just can't force myself to pay a lot less for a Soundstream amp compared to a Rockford or MTX amp as when I was into car audio back then that was the rage. Kicker, Punch, MtX, PPI, all ruled the day. I see some great prices on these Soundstream amps and I'm just hesitant to buy cause you get what you pay for. So when I hear you guys talking about Soundstream stuff, it makes me think a little bit more. I'm still probably going to go for MTX or Punch cause that's what I started with and they never let me down...MTX always kicked IMO How good is this Soundstream stuff though? I don't see anything on EBAY for a D200 model amp like you guys are talking about.... |
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| troystg |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...E:B:WNA:US:1123
D200 that just ended.
I am still waiting for my D100II to come in the mail.
On a side note:
What is the difference between the D100 and the Class A 50?
Is one just biased higher or is there circuit / parts differences? |
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| Flyin11 |
| Damn...Both of those amps are HUGE!!! :eek: :bigeyes: |
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| ppia600 |
Yeah, I was watching that in my ebay. I'm surprised it sold for so cheap.
| quote: | Originally posted by troystg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...E:B:WNA:US:1123
D200 that just ended.
I am still waiting for my D100II to come in the mail.
On a side note:
What is the difference between the D100 and the Class A 50?
Is one just biased higher or is there circuit / parts differences? |
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| dukep |
The d200 is a very sweet amp. Using it as a sub amp is a shame.
I had it in my Volvo running 5in seas woofers and seas tweeters. Tweeky!
It will produce the best results in a full range. skip the 10in sub speakers and put in 4 ea. 6 1/2in (or 8") drivers and a teeter, 2 way component. that was my old school solution. the ford galaxie was rockin(volvo retired) but it had the room for that in the trunk.
The amp is now used as my bench amp on a 12v supply (no hum). It is better than any other amp in the house (for now). It also has a bit of noise in the switching supply, thinking the toroid xformer. hmm. rtv silicone.
Employ it as a sub, but consider this...keep in stereo full range...
then;
use a passive crossover to drive the 2 subs, Left and right. And and in-line large cap before the deck speakers. hmmm 1-2henry inductor and a 250uf cap (nonpolar). got a few if you want. You'll be amazed the depth of sound.
I had this setup a few weeks ago with a 3in full range speaker and 8in subs.
The car stereo head amps are 18watts at 1% distortion (best case). They are not worthy!
last note: keep it cool with a fan if you can. |
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| 69CamaroSS396 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flyin11
I don't know...I got into car audio in the middle 90's and so on....I'm no kid now, I'm 31 but I have never heard of Orion or Soundstream. I just can't force myself to pay a lot less for a Soundstream amp compared to a Rockford or MTX amp as when I was into car audio back then that was the rage. Kicker, Punch, MtX, PPI, all ruled the day. I see some great prices on these Soundstream amps and I'm just hesitant to buy cause you get what you pay for. So when I hear you guys talking about Soundstream stuff, it makes me think a little bit more. I'm still probably going to go for MTX or Punch cause that's what I started with and they never let me down...MTX always kicked IMO How good is this Soundstream stuff though? I don't see anything on EBAY for a D200 model amp like you guys are talking about.... |
The mainstream companies mentioned that "ruled the day" were well positioned at the right time for the car audio explosion of the '80s and '90s. Their names will live in infamy. And those names were in the face of everyone with even a passing interest in car audio. Most have changed hands and their efforts today to appeal to the masses have left them all mere shadows of their former selves.
But there were other companies that made products as good or better. Audio Art, Linear Power, Rodek, Alphasonik, Harmon Kardon, to name a few. And how many young guys would believe that Pyle was once a family owned business that actually made really nice gear? I believe that 99% of people have probably never heard of some of the higher end stuff.
Perfect example; my little smart mouthed, 19 year old neighbor laughed at my SQ set-up of Linear Power and a/d/s for no other reasons than he had never heard of either, and the bass wouldn't cave in my head. All he knows is Audiobahn this, and Audiobahn that.
Being able to pick up a true high quality old school amp for cheap on ebay(or elsewhere) undoubtedly has more to do with the lack of knowledge of the prospective buyers than the actual amp itself. I recently bought an old school US made Hifonics 4 channel on ebay for $28. Works perfectly and will easily produce 200x2 bridged into 4 ohms. I now have 6 of these amps, and have a total of less than $350 invested. Everything is relative. |
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| djQUAN |
I once saw a D200 forsale in a store that go to often for about US$80 but I didn't have the money or use for such at that time so I wasn't able to buy it. :(
but I was able to buy a used SA80 (bad cosmetic condition but works perfectly) for about US$30. planning to use it to power a small sub (6.5"- 8" just to augment a factory system. :) |
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| dukep |
I got mine from someone for 100bucks. He didn't like it for his subs.
I worked on many a linear power. still have a little baby one 20w/ch.
I took one look at the d200 circuit board, knew the name and bought it. It's construction is excellent. That was in 1991.
anyone remember precision power amps?
the 1kw Zues (greek god series)? |
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| zener_diode |
The D100II and Class A-50 are nearly identical except for a few parts...
including the higher bias. I have a schematic for both. You can convert
the D100II to a Class A-50, but beware of the heat! I would thoroughly
test it on the bench before installing it if you do the conversion. |
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| troystg |
| quote: | Originally posted by zener_diode
........The D100II and Class A-50 are nearly identical except for a few parts...
including the higher bias. I have a schematic for both........ |
Can I PLEASE get a copy? PLEEEEEEEASE? |
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| Zero Cool |
Sorry i kind of fell off this thread.....
My fav car amps of all time are the D200 number 1, the HK CA260 #2 and any of the Linear Power amps. those babies kicked ***!
Never liked the ADS stuff, many people did, but they sounded so compressed to me...just never struck me. had cool features way back when. remember the ADS rack system? Big plate you could clip ADS amp modules onto.
The original D-200 had a somewhat underated power supply. the series II added a better PWM system with better regulation. Standard audiophile POOGE technics would help. But, how far do you really want to go with it? the stock PSu is so weak, any upgrades would just most likely worsen it but putting extra load on the PSU. The best thing would be for someone to design a whole new power supply section for these things. or at least, copy the S-II power supply design and beef it up. bigger switching transistors, diodes, caps, add bypass caps etc etc.
What made the D-200 so good, was not that it was any special circuit. just that it was a good textbook design. simple, clean. elegant. none of this fancy **** you see on the newer amps. and it wasnt junk like the cheapo amps of the time either. In fact. I think it was Audio magazine did an article where the guy hooked a D-200 up to his home system and compared to to some super high end amps. I admit i have done this as well. and for a car amp. not bad.
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| jol50 |
Here is a cheaper home amp for you: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...:MEWA:IT&ih=008
This spring the Ds were going cheaper. Always wanted one but never got to it, just keep using old alpines. I remember putting a system in with a LP 5002, 3002, 3002, SS D200, D60, all X02 LP crossovers, some high end Kenwood HU that was two DIN one behind the dash. Needed ear plugs just to crank it up. Had two RF 15s I could stand on the cones and not hurt in a huge sealed box. Had 4 8" subs, 4 6" mids, 6 1" soft domes. Put two of the biggest 12v RV batteries we could find in the back with a disconnect, and this truck had two batteries under the hood. The owner was completely nuts too, really into racing offroad stuff. He would play it until the batteries died and start the truck up for a while. |
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| zener_diode |
| quote: | Originally posted by troystg
Can I PLEASE get a copy? PLEEEEEEEASE? |
No problem. I'll scan them.
As for the power supply, the schematic says how many turns for
the primary and secondary, so it should be easy for someone to
make a better power supply. Hopefully someone experiments with this
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| jol50 |
Indeed, but I said cheaper:) Maybe not as impressive, but certainly robust if you ever want to have a loud party. I only have an 80s HK and find that impressive, but don't even have room to set it up right now and it needs minor repair.
Also got a hold of one of the older SS rubicon that is 300w, but have only used it on subs in a car not highs yet. Going to change out all my amps though, so I will have to figure out what should go where. I don't think they are quite as nice as the Ds, but not bad right? |
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| troystg |
jol50-
I can't comment on the Rubicon models.. I only played with the D and Reference models.
I use an old Orion 2125sx with a servo for the low end, and am replacing the a/d/s/ P640.2 with a pair of D100II's on the high end. |
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| mitchyz250f |
zener_diode
Can you please send me schematics for and D (60, 100 and 200)or MC (120 & 140)series SS amps if you have them? I have several of each that are not currently working.
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| jol50 |
| Wow, there is a MC300 on that is near $300. It is very nice condition. |
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| zener_diode |
| quote: | Originally posted by mitchyz250f
zener_diode
Can you please send me schematics for and D (60, 100 and 200)or MC (120 & 140)series SS amps if you have them? I have several of each that are not currently working.
thanks |
I only have the D100II and the Class A-50II schematics. I will scan
them tomorrow. Anyone that wants them, PM me your email address
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| troystg |
| quote: | Originally posted by zener_diode
....PM me your email address and I will email them to you..... |
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Mine when you get a chance, and thanks again:
troystg_at_gmail.com
Edit: Can you say anxious? I have been looking at this D100II on my desk everyday for a month. I was just about to start desoldering components and metering them out to get values. :D |
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| zener_diode |
That's strange... all the settings for messages are set to "yes".
:confused:
Oh well.
I'll send the schematics to you tomorrow or Friday. I still need
to scan them, but I will do that tomorrow for sure. |
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| troystg |
This morning I went out to the truck to discover someone broke in last night. :-(
They stole my a/d/s/ s10 woofer and enclosure for sure, they tore the dash apart trying to take the temporary Clarion Z4xx(?) radio. Fortunately I had not put in my DRX-9255 yet.
I do not know if they got the Orion 280GX, the Servo unit, the Orion 2125SX or the a/d/s/ P640.2 yet. I am waiting for the po po before I go in there looking.
I guess I am happy I left the door unlocked last night because a broken window would have been WAY worse. I left the drivers side door unlocked by accident, but I live in a gated community of half million dollar and up homes (parents home, my son and I are here until the divorce is finished and the court releases my money, then we will buy our own place again)... I would have never expected a vehicle break in here. I would think a home burglary would be more likely.
Oh well, life goes on, and it was only stuff that is easily replaceable... Well sorta, the Servo is a custom made unit from Mr. Erath who is OLD and frail. Once he's gone so is the servo. |
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| zener_diode |
| Holy ****, that sucks! |
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| troystg |
**** happens, it is only "stuff". My family and I are safe and healthy. Material things can be replaced.
Po po just completed the report and left.
Did get some stuff, but not my SS D100II, so I can still use the Schematics so I can put this in. :D |
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| jol50 |
| Wow, I didn't think kids even bothered to steal stereo stuff anymore since it is so cheap now. Have not heard of it around here in a long time, sure it goes on but nothing like the old days when amps were$500 in 1980s dollars. |
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| troystg |
| quote: | Originally posted by jol50
Wow, I didn't think kids even bothered to steal stereo stuff anymore since it is so cheap now. Have not heard of it around here in a long time, sure it goes on but nothing like the old days when amps were$500 in 1980s dollars. |
Funny but actually true.. Amps were soooo much more expensive back then. |
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| jol50 |
| That sucks, they have good luck with catching them here. Keep an eye on ebay for the stuff. For the kids its $20 in the pocket but it sucks for the person who likes to hear some good music and not some mp3 cranking on a 4,000w pyramid. |
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| bayiganteng |
Wondering if anybody would be nice enough to send me the D100II and the Class A-50II schematics to my email
bayiganteng@yahoo.com
Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but I've got a quick question.
What's the difference on the board between D200ii and Class A 100ii?
I've been staring long and hard between the two pictures from ampguts.com and still couldn't find the difference.
Anyone can help?? Thx a bunch :) |
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| zener_diode |
| quote: | Originally posted by bayiganteng
Wondering if anybody would be nice enough to send me the D100II and the Class A-50II schematics to my email
bayiganteng@yahoo.com
Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but I've got a quick question.
What's the difference on the board between D200ii and Class A 100ii?
I've been staring long and hard between the two pictures from ampguts.com and still couldn't find the difference.
Anyone can help?? Thx a bunch :) |
The schematics can be found here: http://www.brockwayelectronics.com/
I'm sure the circuit boards are the same for the D200II and Class A-100II.
That is why they appear to be the same. But some component values
will be different because of the biasing. The toroid is probably
different also, like the D100II and Class A-50. |
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| Nismoron |
Well guys, I have come to a difficult decision. I think it is time to sell off all of my D series amps. I has (2) D200 series I, (2) D100 series I, (1) D60 series I, and (1) D60 Series II. They all work great and are in good to exellent cosmetic condition. I have been holding on to them for about 7 years now and still have not used but three of them for about a year. I would like to get as follows, but will consider offers:
D200 = $225 each
D100 = $160 each
D60 = $75 each
Please contact me by email as I only read this forum a few times a year. cwald240sx@charter.net |
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