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Jason Hubbard
I have a choice of capacitors to use in a power supply for an aleph-x amplifier (18.5volts @ 6 amps).

Supply will be a CLCLC setup with 4mh air core inductors.

Capacitors are either NOS 56,000uf which i believe are about 15 years old but still hold a charge OK (i may reform them before use just to be sure) or i can use 3 times as many new 22,000uf snap-in capacitors as the C element of the CLCLC supply.

The volume of the 3 new capacitors is not even close to the big can of the 56,000 capacitor - does this have an effect on the ripple current or any other aspect of the capacitors performance?

what are the pro's & cons of each choice?

any comments greatjy appreciated.
Elvee
Hi

It is generally preferable to parallel capacitors for large values: this results in a lower impedance; in addition, a smaller capacitor will also tend to have a smaller series inductance than a large one, which can be beneficial to the impedance at higher frequencies.
LV
AndrewT
Hi,
a CRCRC has very high ripple on the first cap.
CLCLC is slightly better. Try comparing in PSUD2 for first C ripple.

If it is still bad then use multi parallel caps for the first C to improve the ripple capacity. Otherwise it will run hot and fail.

The quality of the output is controlled by the last C. Use your best C here.
Aim for sufficient to support good bass response and good ESR for mid and treble. Again multi parallel may give a solution.
But, check for oscillation when trying parallel caps with low ESR. RC snubbers may be the answer.
Jason Hubbard
Thanks for the replies.

Andrew - are you saying that i should consider unequal distribution of the capacitance across the CLCLC chain favouring the capacitance of the first C in order to reduce ripple current?

What about needing capacitance in the last C which is the capacitor bank that the amplifier will see?

I recalled that smaller paralleled capacitors were preferred to a single larger one (but there was also an argument in favour of the larger ones which i have since forgotten - anybody)
AndrewT
Hi,
quote:
Originally posted by AndrewT
CRCRC has very high ripple on the first cap.
use multi parallel caps for the first C to improve the ripple capacity. Otherwise it will run hot and fail.

The quality of the output is controlled by the last C. Use your best C here.
Aim for sufficient to support good bass response and good ESR for mid and treble........

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Hubbard
are you saying that i should consider unequal distribution of the capacitance across the CLCLC chain favouring the capacitance of the first C in order to reduce ripple current?

What about needing capacitance in the last C which is the capacitor bank that the amplifier will see?
Sorry, you have misunderstood my message.
Improve the ripple capacity of the capacitors is NOT the same as reducing the resultant ripple measured at the capacitors.

The last C most influences the sound quality in the amplifier. This means use good quality caps and of adequate capacitance for the last C.

The first C and the middle C are there to attenuate the hum and little else. The first C in particular feels a LOT of ripple (hum)

Go and re-read my message.

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