| eboz |
 I'd like to introduce a new line of chassis to the DIY community. These chassis will be available to order very soon at our eventual website location: www.diyenclosures.com Currently the site isn't up and I will inform everyone as soon as it is ready. We only need to fine-tune a few things and add some new images. It's soon enough though that I can show everyone some pictures of the parts I have in stock. I've created these chassis with as many popular options as possible, such as preamp faces and knobs, IEC cutouts and modules, ventilated top panels as well as thicker blank top panels for tube projects. The parts can be combined in any combination, which the website will guide you through. They are constructed from .050" (1.3mm) anodized aluminum, except blank top panels which are .080" (2mm) thick. All fastener hardware is included, including: #8-32 stainless or alloy button head screws (depending on color of chassis chosen), four large rubber feet, and kep nuts. I would also like to note that we will accept international orders and all of our dimensions will be in both imperial and metric, prices will be displayed in USD and Euro. All prices will remain for a six month introductory period. The website should be ready in about two weeks.
This image shows the flagship model, the DIY1712. It's usable internal dimensions measure 17x12x3.5in, 431.8x304.8x88.9mm. Front panels measure: 17.5x4.1in and a full 1/4" thick, 444.5x104.1x6.35mm. This model with a blank face panel starts at $115. Add preamp face and two knobs for $30 additional. The indicator marks are compatible with Elma switches and the numbered inputs can be removed by rubbing them with a sugar cube. The sugar cube is abrasive enough to remove the silk screen, but won't leave any scratches on the metal. Knobs shown here are the clear anodized type1 and type2 knobs, which are also available in three other colors: gold, black, polished. The knobs are a full 2" (51mm) in diameter! They are machined from solid 6061 T6 aluminum. Knobs are compatible with most boutique hardware and accept 1/4" and 6mm shaft diameters and include a #6-32 set screw. Knobs sold separately will cost $20ea for anodized and $25 for polished (you get a deal when you order the preamp face).
Here is the massive DIY1013, which is ideally suited for solid state class-A amps, or huge power supplies. There will also be a heatsink version available. It is shown with the optional IEC cutout and IEC power module and a 225VA Hammond transformer. The IEC option is available on all chassis for an additional $7, which includes an EMI filtered, switched and fused power module.
DIY1013 shown with IEC on rear panel and blank face panel installed.
Dimensions:
imperial: 10x13x6in
metric: 254x330.2x152.4mm
DIY1013 does not include a preamp face option.
The DIY0908 is the perfect size for building smaller preamps, DACs, stereo chip or class-D amps. Shown here with IEC option and 225VA transformer.
Dimensions:
imperial: 9x8x3.5in
metric: 228.6x203.2x88.9mm
Closeup detail of the side panel and face panel joint. The face panels include a routed grove, where the top, bottom and side panels fit into so that their edges are hidden.
DIY0908 with preamp face. Here you can see that the face panel brackets include pre-drilled pilot holes. These holes locate the exact center for mounting control knobs and hardware.
DIY0908 shown with polished type1 and type2 knobs.
The DIY0610 is a good size for monoblock chip amps, monoblock SET, power supplies, or headphone amps. The DIY0610 does not include a preamp face option.
Dimensions:
imperial: 6x10x3.5in
metric: 154.9x254x91.4mm
DIY0610 rear panel shown with IEC module installed and gold face panel. |
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| eboz |
Here are a few more pictures showing the heatsink versions. This option is available for the DIY1712 and DIY1013 chassis at $30 and $50 respectively. The heatsinks require drilling and tapping to mount them.
This is the DIY1013HS, which comes with four 6" tall heatsinks. The windows on the side panels are for mounting power transistors or IC's directly to the heatsink.
DIY1712HS
DIY1712HS shown here with gold preamp face panel and black type1 and type2 knobs. |
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| ACD |
| Looks very very nice ;) |
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| GeWa |
Now that is simple and beautiful! Very nice chassis you created there.
Regards |
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| Geek |
Knobs, eh?
I need pricing. 38-40mm dia unskirted, 6.35mm hole, single setscrew, non-anodized aluminum brushed and laquered.
geek <at> classicvalve <dot> ca
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| Algar_emi |
Very nice indeed. I would like the price list for sure.
Thanks... |
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| Geek |
Hi,
Are you still with us? Your URL has been giving:| quote: | | Error! Could not locate remote server |
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| eboz |
Geek,
Yes I'm still here! :D I'll try to answer a few questions at this time. The website is being finished up and tested, and it's intentional that www.diyenclosures.com does not yet respond. We should have it up and running very soon. :cool:
On custom parts or designs: at this time custom parts and machining is not a service that we can provide. All of our parts are manufactured in bulk and are always stocked. Therefore there is zero lead time and chassis will usually ship to you next business day.
Pricing: There are so many parts, colors and options, that the website plays a crucial role in making those options and prices clear and easily understandable.
Here's a short list of the prices in USD:
All chassis are available in silver and black base colors, and silver, black, and gold face panel colors. There are two types, and four colors of knobs. Add $7 for filtered, switched and fused IEC module, with rear panel cutout.
DIY-1712 $115, includes blank face plate. +$30 for silkscreen face and two knobs. Ventilated .050", or blank .080" (2mm) top panel.
DIY-1013 $115, includes blank face plate.
DIY-0908 $85, includes blank face plate. +$30 for silkscreen face and two knobs. Ventilated .050", or blank .080" (2mm) top panel.
DIY-0610 $70, includes blank face plate. Ventilated .050", or blank .080" (2mm) top panel.
Heatsink versions are also available.
DIY-1712HS $145, includes same options as DIY-1712.
DIY-1013HS $165, includes same options as DIY-1013.
Here's a picture of the DIY-0908 with some gainclone parts:
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| Paul Ebert |
These look really good. It's likely the 1013 could work for my Zen V9's assuming I use a fan.
What would be really sweet is if you could offer some huge heatsinks (and a case to which they could be mounted) for all of us Pass DIY folks who need to dissipate tons of heat. Any chance of that?
Regardless, it's nice to have someone sourcing such nice enclosures here in the US. I wish you success! |
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| eboz |
Paul,
Thanks for your interest in the new chassis. The DIY-1013 was definitely designed specifically for those huge Zen amps and other class-A amplifiers. And yes, there is even a heatsink version, the DIY-1013HS. It's the same as the DIY-1013, except that it includes four huge, 6" tall heatsinks and windowed side panels for mounting the power transistors/resistors. Just view further up this thread and you can find a picture of the DIY-1013HS and its heatsinks. :D It's in with the pictures of the DIY-1712HS. |
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| Paul Ebert |
| Yes, I saw the 1013HS and it does look like a nice design. But I fear that the heatsinks will not be up to the task. Do you know how much they can dissipate? |
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| eboz |
Paul,
With natural convection, each of the four 6" sections of heatsink have a thermal resistance of .75 degrees C per W. |
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| jackinnj |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paul Ebert
Yes, I saw the 1013HS and it does look like a nice design. But I fear that the heatsinks will not be up to the task. Do you know how much they can dissipate? |
I ran the math (don't have one to test) but it would appear that EBOZ is rating them pretty conservatively.
FWIW, unless you have a mill and are sitting next door to a dumpster at the Alcoa plant, right outside a hydro-electric facility you couldn't fashion the heat sinks that inexpensively. |
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| John Caswell |
Hi Eboz,.
Judging by the pictures the chassis/boxes are pack flat.
Any idea of costs to ship to the UK, and payment process?
John |
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| jackinnj |
Would be helpful to have one version with the heat sinks running across the back of the cabinet -- as this Audio Research D-120 which is in the amplifier hospital:
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| eboz |
John,
The most economical postage is by USPS airmail parcel post, for $33.75USD. Delivery time is between 4 and 10 days.
Regards,
Michael W.
PS
For delivery to Canada, the same postage is only $17.65.
To Australia $36.90
To Germany $28.70 |
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| shallbehealed |
| The website still doesn't seem to be working. It's asking for a password. |
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| taj |
It's a month since you've announced your business! If you don't get your website online soon, your going to miss out on the Christmas shopping season.
I was thinking of getting my wife one of the big enclosures with heatsinks for Christmas. If not, she won't have anything to trade me for the Royal Albert teacup set she'll probably give me. :cannotbe:
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| albertli_usa |
Hello eboz,
Are you still there?
I am interesting to buy DIY1712HS with option silkscreen face and two knobs. ($145 +$30 +$Shipping to Utah/US ?)
The website www.diyenclosures.com isn't working! It's asking password! What's going on here? |
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| jleaman |
| Are you going to be selling these cases now ? |
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| protos |
| For my money I think the chassis at www.designbuildlisten.com are a diyers´dream come true.I have never seen anything like these available anywhere else.With the predrilled slots/holes /internal panels /external wood´panel options etc you could save 80% of your chassis building time and have a great looking case at the same time.The prices are very reasonable but the shipping may be expensive from New Zealand(!). |
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| eboz |
| The online store at http://www.diyenclosures.com is now open for orders. Orders will ship same or next business day up until the 23rd of Dec. All products are in stock. There may be a few glitches with the site which you can email me about. One restriction exists now: that shipping address must be the same as billing address. If you have problems with this, please leave me an email and I can contact you by phone. Thanks and I hope everyone enjoys the new enclosures. |
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| eboz |
I just wanted to make a few more clarifications about the company and its website. We are located in Boise, ID while the chassis are manufactured in Portland, OR. The website is a fully automated ecommerce site, which accepts VISA/MC and American Express check cards. We ship domestically via UPS and USPS, while international shipments are made via USPS. All prices are displayed in US dollars and shipping will be determined for you automatically. Use the "customize this chassis" buttons to choose the chassis options and to add them to your shopping cart. Thank you and I wish everyone happy holidays.
-Michael Woods
DIY Enclosures LLC |
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| j4cbo |
| What are the dimensions of the heatsink cutouts in the 1712HS? |
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| eboz |
Here are the cutout dimensions for the heatsink versions:
DIY-1712HS
2x windowed cutouts per side measure 3.5" (88.9mm) long by 1.5" (38.1mm) tall with .25" (6.35mm) radiused corners.
DIY-1013HS
2x windowed cutouts per side measure 4" (101.6mm) long by 2" (50.8mm) tall with .5" 12.7mm) radiused corners. |
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| pinkmouse |
| eboz: under the description for DIYEXT1, I think you mean 300mm. ;) |
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| eboz |
| pinkmouse: thanks for pointing that out. Indeed you are correct! :D |
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| Acid |
| Hello, very nice enclosures, but is there a possibility to get a bit bigger heatsinks? And what are dimensions of corrent heatsinks for chassis 1013hs? |
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| eboz |
Acid,
Currently I only have this one heatsink type available. It's dimensions are 5.375" (136.5) in length and 6" (152.4) in height, with 1" (25.4) tall fins. There are four of them included with the DIY-1013HS. I hadn't anticipated that the 1013HS would be so popular, so I have only started with a trial run using these heatsinks. If the business goes well, then I'll most definitely produce a custom heatsink that we can all agree upon. But until then, what you see is what you get. |
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| badman |
It looks fantastic, thanks eboz!
Can't wait to get 'er up and singing :D |
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| eboz |
I'm having a short setback and I won't be able to process orders again until late next week. Please contact me via email if you wish to make an order and pay via paypal. Thanks for your patience.
-Michael Woods |
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| eboz |
| quote: | Originally posted by eboz
I'm having a short setback and I won't be able to process orders again until late next week. Please contact me via email if you wish to make an order and pay via paypal. Thanks for your patience.
-Michael Woods |
Ok! More bugs have been worked out of the website. The shipping works in IE now and I can process the online transactions. I've also adjusted the shipping weights down some, so shipping estimates will be less expensive. You can still email me and request other payments such as Paypal or money order, but the preferred method is by using the online VISA/MC option. I'm also letting everyone know that if you post pictures of your projects on the DIY/audio forums (any of them), just send me a link to it and I'll give you a 5% discount on your next order! |
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| smbrown |
Just received my preamp chassis and wanted to send some feedback, since your site asked for suggestions here. First off, it came in quick order, well packaged. The little cloth bags to protect the knobs was a great touch. The front panel and lettering were great, just what I expected. Where I was a bit disappointed was in the very thin top, bottom, back and side panels. This stuff feels even thiner than the Hammond aluminum chassis, which ain't great by any means. I can easily twist and flex the sides. I'd highly recommend a beefier aluminum, say 0.09" all around, or at least back and bottom for better rigidity. This is especially true for those of us working w/tube stuff since those transfomers can be heavy, and tubes always appreciate a nice rigid mounting structure. Thanks for addressing the need of the DIY'er for a more visually appealing product. It's a great start and much appreciated!
Oh, one more quick suggestion - maybe outlandishly expensive. How about an all copper chassis w/faceplate, for building phono preamp enclosures? Thanks! |
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| eboz |
| quote: | Originally posted by smbrown
Just received my preamp chassis and wanted to send some feedback, since your site asked for suggestions here. First off, it came in quick order, well packaged. The little cloth bags to protect the knobs was a great touch. The front panel and lettering were great, just what I expected. Where I was a bit disappointed was in the very thin top, bottom, back and side panels. This stuff feels even thiner than the Hammond aluminum chassis, which ain't great by any means. I can easily twist and flex the sides. I'd highly recommend a beefier aluminum, say 0.09" all around, or at least back and bottom for better rigidity. This is especially true for those of us working w/tube stuff since those transfomers can be heavy, and tubes always appreciate a nice rigid mounting structure. Thanks for addressing the need of the DIY'er for a more visually appealing product. It's a great start and much appreciated!
Oh, one more quick suggestion - maybe outlandishly expensive. How about an all copper chassis w/faceplate, for building phono preamp enclosures? Thanks! |
Steve,
I'm glad that you're happy with the quick service and with the knobs. It's unfortunate that I can't provide thicker side panels. This is the trade-off I had to make in order to sell a very affordable chassis that is of all aluminum construction. The top plates can be ordered blank for tube projects, which are of .08 thickness. These panel thicknesses are also provided on the website. Perhaps when I have a higher volume of sales and an increase in price, I would be able to sell thicker side panels. Until then I'd recommend doing as you are and adding some reenforcement when necessary. I've found that the chassis can hold quite a lot of weight both internally and externally when fully assembled, but damping can still be an issue. Thanks for your order and I hope that you'll post pictures of your project. Do you plan on removing any of the silkscreen/numbered inputs? |
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| ohenry |
I recently received the 1712-HS chassis and it's beautifully done. The anodizing on the panels and heatsinks was perfect. I've used Hammond and a few other enclosures in the past, and I like this one best. The front panel was well done and the brushed finish was very attractive (AFAIK, something that the US/Canada DIY enclosure companies don't offer). The vented top slots were perfectly cut and the edges were smooth, as were all of the panels.
I have no issue with the panel gauge because of two considerations:
- the enclosure is rigid and adequately sturdy when assembled; and
- the modest gauge makes it easier for those of us that have bench-top drill presses and limited chassis punches to poke nice holes.:)
So, I'm happy with the purchase, I felt the price was fair for a nice case with easily integrated heatsinks. Now our half-kits and homemade contraptions can have a home that has quality commensurate with their sound.
I'll be doing a SKA 150D Class A dual mono in this one. Later, I plan to put an amp4 in a smaller box like the 0610. |
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| smbrown |
| Agreed, these are miles ahead of the Hammond stuff. I've always wondered why Hammond, who seem to be conscious of the DIY thing ohterwise, put so little effort into beefing up their chassis offerings. At any rate, I've done some bracing inside, and yes, once it's all togehter, it's more sturdy. |
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| Geek |
| quote: | Originally posted by smbrown
I've always wondered why Hammond, who seem to be conscious of the DIY thing ohterwise, put so little effort into beefing up their chassis offerings. |
Last time I was at an electronics store, the Chinese made chassis were made of aluminum that was stronger, thicker and had a better temper - and 1/2 the price or less! :eek:
Might be a reason.... |
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| nycavsr2000 |
Okay, here's a true story.
I ordered on Thursday January 25th, the enclosures were shipped on Thursday, and at my doorstep on Saturday morning. Michael is in Idaho and I'm in Ohio. Via USPS just 2 days. Simply amazing and fantastic customer service :worship: .
The enclosures look excellent! There is some very, very slight marring on some of the edges but you have to squint a bit to see it on the affected pieces.
I was surprised to see that the 1712 front panels have decent corner radii.
The 1712 will be for a dual mono LM3875 chip amp and the 0908 will be for a NOS-USB dac I'm building.
The rear & front panels will be sent to Front Panel Express for hole drilling and engraving. I just need to drilll a few holes myself on the bottom panels which I can do with a simple drill press since the bottom panels are only about 1.27 mm thick.
I'll be purchasing again! I can see myself building a TVC preamp using Intact Audio autoformers in the 0908 enclosure which is just the perfect size!
Make no mistake fellas, if you want affordable, great looking enclosures and don't wanna go crazy with wooden enclosures (which are very pretty), I can confidently endorse Michael's work.
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| TurboFC3S |
What is the thermal rating of each individual heatsink in the 1712HS?
And could you tell me if this is a good idea or bad idea? I have some .032" copper sheeting. If I cut 4 pieces to size and bonded it to the back of the heatsink using a thermal epoxy, would it have real world benefits? The output trans (of a GB150D for instance) would then be attached to the copper, and a thermal paste used. My thinking is that the copper properly bonded would help spread heat more evenly and efficiently into the aluminum sink.
If it would help I could also do like I used to do with computer CPU's and heatsinks, where you sand the CPU core and back of the heatsink to a mirror shine and then attach with thermal paste ... I could usually overclock a bit more after doing that, so I assume it would have the same benefits in this application. It's all about heat transfer.
I guess what I'm getting at, is would it be possible to run 4 GB150D amps in AB mode in a 1712HS case? My rack is well ventilated, and obviously I'd get the top vented version of the 1712. |
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| sorenj07 |
| Hey, nice site and cool products! I just would like to suggest that it'd be really nice if the 1712 chassis came with the option of only being 1.75-2" tall. Tube amplifiers often will put the bulky parts above the chassis, and put a grill over that if need be. The 1712's cavernous 3.5 inches would look clunky with the additional height of tubes, transformers, etc. It'd be even cooler if you offered front and rear panels that started at the bottom of the chassis and extended to around 4-5" above the chassis. Just a couple ideas. |
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| eboz |
| quote: | Originally posted by TurboFC3S
What is the thermal rating of each individual heatsink in the 1712HS?
And could you tell me if this is a good idea or bad idea? I have some .032" copper sheeting. If I cut 4 pieces to size and bonded it to the back of the heatsink using a thermal epoxy, would it have real world benefits? The output trans (of a GB150D for instance) would then be attached to the copper, and a thermal paste used. My thinking is that the copper properly bonded would help spread heat more evenly and efficiently into the aluminum sink.
If it would help I could also do like I used to do with computer CPU's and heatsinks, where you sand the CPU core and back of the heatsink to a mirror shine and then attach with thermal paste ... I could usually overclock a bit more after doing that, so I assume it would have the same benefits in this application. It's all about heat transfer.
I guess what I'm getting at, is would it be possible to run 4 GB150D amps in AB mode in a 1712HS case? My rack is well ventilated, and obviously I'd get the top vented version of the 1712. |
The copper plate idea sounds great. I think that would actually work quite nicely. I however, don't know the exact heat dissipation of the individual heatsinks. I believe ohenry has been working on this same (or similar) amp into the DIY-1712HS, so I'm hoping that he'll be able to speak to this. Henry, what do you think, are the heatsinks able to handle this load? :cool: |
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| TurboFC3S |
I wrote Greg today, his reply was that case and heatsinks would have no problem holding and cooling 4 GB150D modules - good news!
His reply about the copper plate idea was ??? ... but I know it'll work, so I'm going to try it. Plus it'll be uber cool :devilr:
So it's time to place an enclosure order I guess :) |
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| jackinnj |
| quote: | Originally posted by TurboFC3S
What is the thermal rating of each individual heatsink in the 1712HS? |
it was earlier stated that the thermal impedance was 0.75 C/W -- i just received a set and they really look swell. |
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| TurboFC3S |
| quote: | Originally posted by jackinnj
it was earlier stated that the thermal impedance was 0.75 C/W -- i just received a set and they really look swell. |
I thought that was for the sinks in the 1013HS? |
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| Variac |
| I think it would be better to attach the output device to a copper plate with only grease, no insulator. Then use an insulator and grease between the much larger interface of copper/heatsink. This would get more heat off the device and the less efficient junction (with insulator) is a much larger area. |
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| ohenry |
| quote: | | The copper plate idea sounds great. I think that would actually work quite nicely. I however, don't know the exact heat dissipation of the individual heatsinks. I believe ohenry has been working on this same (or similar) amp into the DIY-1712HS, so I'm hoping that he'll be able to speak to this. Henry, what do you think, are the heatsinks able to handle this load? :cool: [/B] |
Sorry Michael, no progress yet. I've been finishing another amp, but I should be starting the class A GB150 soon... maybe tonight??? |
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| ptwining |
I just got my 1712 and it is fabulous! Nice construction and finish. You can't beat the price point either! I didn't realize it came with feet, nice touch.
Now, I have to drill a bunch of holes in it.
Mr. Richard Krol - Nicely done!
I have a question though, can I have you make some custom holes or is that beyond what you guys want to do?
Also do you sell the front and back panels separately? If I mess a few up I'd love to be able to buy more...
Just curious but once again, of all the DIY chassis's I've bought this is the nicest fo far.
Regards,
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| eboz |
| quote: | Originally posted by ptwining
I have a question though, can I have you make some custom holes or is that beyond what you guys want to do?
Also do you sell the front and back panels separately? If I mess a few up I'd love to be able to buy more...
Just curious but once again, of all the DIY chassis's I've bought this is the nicest fo far.
Regards,
Tom |
Tom,
Thanks for your questions. I don't sell the panels individually, but I could provide them at special request. Also, we do not provide any custom machine work at this time. I'm really happy that you're enjoying the chassis and I look forward to hearing about your project!
Best Regards,
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| rez |
Really like the look of the 1712 but after trying 3 different credit cards (lots of room on all of them) to try and order all were rejected - it's getting a bit frustrating. I love America but live in Canada - guess they can't read my heart javascript:smilie(':hbeat:'). Other Canadians who've got a more positive result offer suggestions?
Thanks
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| Aengus |
Hi rez
It's likely your credit card companies protecting you from unusual spending patterns (and nothing to do with Canada/US issues). Their computers watch for expenditures outside your usual spending and block them. If you call the 800 number and tell them you're going to buy stuff elsewhere, that should work.
BTW, notify them beforehand if you plan to go on a trip as well.
This is all a good thing IMO - they blocked some hotel charges in Germany on my wife's card, and we were pleased since we were in Canada at the time. :D
Regards.
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| lordvader |
Just wanted to share the news that my DIY-1712 arrived today !
It's going to house my headphone amp/preamp combo (both ESP designs, the p37 preamp and the p70 DoZ headphone amp).
The delivery was super quick (from the US to Australia in a little over a week !), and the case is looking very nice indeed (this is in its un-assembled form !)
Can't wait to start putting it together !!!
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| rez |
That was a very speedy response offering the paypal option. Now just have to wait for the kit to arrive!
rez |
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| stokessd |
I just got a 0610 case yesterday for use with my 41HZ amp5. I've been sitting in my listening room less and less and enjoying my music streamed throughout the house more and more. I use a squeezebox and several airport expresses. I decided to put the amp5 in a small amp case with a courtesy outlet so that I could have my squeezebox or airport express plugged into it and really only have a small box and a pair of speakers with minimal wires between them.
The case is really very nice. It's in the same price range as the Sescom cases I generally use, but nicer quality. The 0610 was the perfect size for what I needed. The $7 input module was icing on the cake, filtered, with fuse and switch for seven bucks! I'm used to paying like $30 for something similar.
I've got the amp all packaged and playing behind me as I type this. Some pictures of the chassis and my design are here:
http://quadesl.com/photoalbums/Audi...albumIndex.html
Some thoughts:
With such little real-estate on the back panel, it would be nice if the input module was pushed a bit closer to the edge.
The metal is a super easy alloy to work with, and the anodizing is really nice.
The panels are thin, but when bolted together are quite stiff. A larger chassis may need thicker panels but I haven't tried one of those yet.
I got the unit quite fast, and it was nicely packed.
I'm quite happy all in all.
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| rez |
Beautiful work and great photos!
rez |
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| stokessd |
Another note:
The rubber feet look very nice, but may be problematic. First of all they smell like the tire section at a Harbor Freight. Second they appear to be oily. I'm not sure I'd trust the supplied feet on any finished wood surface. I had the amp sitting on unfinished oak and they left an oil ring.
It would be great if such a nice case would come with slightly better feet.
Sheldon |
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| ohenry |
| quote: | Originally posted by eboz
The copper plate idea sounds great. I think that would actually work quite nicely. I however, don't know the exact heat dissipation of the individual heatsinks. I believe ohenry has been working on this same (or similar) amp into the DIY-1712HS, so I'm hoping that he'll be able to speak to this. Henry, what do you think, are the heatsinks able to handle this load? :cool: |
| quote: | Originally posted by ohenry
Sorry Michael, no progress yet. I've been finishing another amp, but I should be starting the class A GB150 soon... maybe tonight??? |
Just an update... I did get the SKA 150D Class A version together and playing. The heatsinks were adequate to handle the heat dissipation (rail voltage = 33v). Here's a shot of the unit just before making all the connections. The side rib was removed to allow centering of the amp module and that was easy with a Dremel cutting wheel. Once each heat sink was secured to the side panels with four bolts, the sides are very sturdy without the rib. I'll try to get a more current shot to show the finished amp, the case and amp turned out very nice.
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| rez |
While it is perhaps a bit premature to post a review I must say the fit and finish of the parts and pieces is outstanding for the price. The face, in particular, ( I got mine in black ) is very substantial and beautifully finished.
Can't wait till the parts for the Greg Ball skPre and the transformer from Plitron to arrive so I can start putting it all together.
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| bequerel |
Is it possible to have the front panel and 2 mm top panel without anodizing?
I think that the chassis could work for me, but I would have to drill several holes and anodize the panels afterwards here locally.
Can the 2 mm top panel be used in the bottom as well? |
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| eboz |
| quote: | Originally posted by bequerel
Is it possible to have the front panel and 2 mm top panel without anodizing?
I think that the chassis could work for me, but I would have to drill several holes and anodize the panels afterwards here locally.
Can the 2 mm top panel be used in the bottom as well? |
The best you can do is to order the clear (silver) anodizing. The 2mm top panel can also be used as the bottom plate, and the bottom plate used as the top. |
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| nycavsr2000 |
Hi fellas,
I got my panels milled and drilled by Front Panel Express. They turned out excellent.
More images can be seen here and here.
Time to start building my NOS dac and gain clone amplifier! :smash:
Enjoy,
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| DCtoDaylight |
Hi Eboz!
I like the look of the DIY1712 chassis, but would like it even better if the front panel were available in a 19" width. Any chance of making that an option? |
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| hokenpoke |
I ordered a blank 1712 from Michael for my first DIY project - a MOSFET amp. When I got bad advice operating the waterjet that was cutting out the connector holes, I ordered a second back panel.
In both cases, the items were shipped promptly and demonstrated a very high level of fit and finish. The completed amp looks great (will post pictures time permitting) even with the power switch set into the front panel (sorry Michael).
I think these boxes are an excellent value. I have access to all the metal and woodworking equipment I can stand and it was more than worth my time to order from diyenclosures. In fact, I was so impressed that I ordered another enclosure for a Class D I'm building for a family member.
Highly recommended. |
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| eboz |
Hi,
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have sold out of the heatsink versions. I won't have them available again until I can re-order parts to replenish my entire stock. They also need a redesign so that they can be more efficient and easier to use. I don't think that the design should change much. The future design will include the drill and taps for mounting, so that you are no longer required to make that operation yourself. I am pretty sure that milling the heatsink such that it becomes an integrated side panel, would be too expensive to implement. I think the best profile is going to be more efficient than the last, but it should still be as universal as possible.
Besides the heatsink versions, how interested would everyone be in a HD "heavy duty" version? Where all the panels would be at least 2mm thick. I first went with the thinner panels, because I know that a lot of you out there have methods for damping the panels if necessary, and would rather have a less expensive and great looking chassis, than having an expensive tank of a chassis. |
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| jackinnj |
| quote: | Originally posted by stokessd
Another note:
The rubber feet look very nice, but may be problematic. First of all they smell like the tire section at a Harbor Freight. Second they appear to be oily. I'm not sure I'd trust the supplied feet on any finished wood surface. I had the amp sitting on unfinished oak and they left an oil ring.
It would be great if such a nice case would come with slightly better feet.
Sheldon |
I think that the 10-24 rubber bumpers (without metal core) from McMaster are just the thing -- in fact there are quite a few to choose from. A pack of 25 is like $10.
I have also used the bumpers with metal core -- tres cher -- but if you have something really heavy they do the trick.
I would move the placement of the IEC connector to the center top of the backpanel. Too low and it interferes with transformer placement. At the side it interferes with device placement. |
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| nycavsr2000 |
| quote: | Hi,
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have sold out of the heatsink versions. I won't have them available again until I can re-order parts to replenish my entire stock. They also need a redesign so that they can be more efficient and easier to use. I don't think that the design should change much. The future design will include the drill and taps for mounting, so that you are no longer required to make that operation yourself. I am pretty sure that milling the heatsink such that it becomes an integrated side panel, would be too expensive to implement. I think the best profile is going to be more efficient than the last, but it should still be as universal as possible.
Besides the heatsink versions, how interested would everyone be in a HD "heavy duty" version? Where all the panels would be at least 2mm thick. I first went with the thinner panels, because I know that a lot of you out there have methods for damping the panels if necessary, and would rather have a less expensive and great looking chassis, than having an expensive tank of a chassis. |
Michael,
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to the updated heatsink versions and I would also be interested in the all 2mm version as well.
Thanks for your efforts, very appreciated, hopefully you've seen my end products detailed elsewhere on this forum and in my audiocircle gallery,
Anand. |
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| crooner |
I'm using DIY enclosures for my upcoming "Super Squeezebox" project.
The DIY-0610 enclosure was a perfect fit for my 12A medical grade open frame unit linear power supply. See pics below....
I have just ordered DIY-0908 to house my modified Squeezebox 2.
I think I'll use Front Panel Express for the faceplate display opening. Pics will follow as soon as I get everything together.
Fit and finish is excellent and they are very easy to work with. Congrats Michael for a job well done!!
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| DCtoDaylight |
I'm willing to pay a little more for the 2mm thick panels, they would help with heavy transformers when building amplifiers....
And, I'll re-plug my request for 19" wide front panels! Aside from better matching my gear, they'ed look better on the heat sinked versions!
Cheers!
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| bequerel |
| quote: | Originally posted by eboz
Hi,
Besides the heatsink versions, how interested would everyone be in a HD "heavy duty" version? Where all the panels would be at least 2mm thick. I first went with the thinner panels, because I know that a lot of you out there have methods for damping the panels if necessary, and would rather have a less expensive and great looking chassis, than having an expensive tank of a chassis. |
A 2mm heavy duty version would be very nice!
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| bequerel |
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Sorry, double posting. Got to excited! |
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| h_a |
Hi!
A month went by...any progress on the heatsink variant?
Depending on the price a heavy duty version would certainly be a nice thing!
Cheers, Hannes |
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| jleaman |
| I like the chassis, always good to make your psu external and far away as possible. How much did you pay for your DIY-0610 chassis ? |
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| crooner |
I paid around $85 including shipping. I ordered a top ventilated panel and the IEC inlet/switch/fuse holder.
The faceplate was blank. I drilled a center hole for the blue LED. |
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| jleaman |
| quote: | Originally posted by crooner
I paid around $85 including shipping. I ordered a top ventilated panel and the IEC inlet/switch/fuse holder.
The faceplate was blank. I drilled a center hole for the blue LED. |
It looks very nice, i like it. I also like his price's.
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| h_a |
Ah and another comment on the planned heatsinking: a large part of the DIY-members here build various Aleph variations, that are ClassA-amps which require really heavy heatsinking, like 0.25K/W per heatsink (I mean the total heatsink on one side of the enclosure).
I think your current design comes to 0.38K/W, so a bit too much.
Would be truly great, if your upcoming design would allow such numbers!
Thanks a lot!
Cheers, Hannes |
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| Epoch |
I am trying to purchase using your online store from Canada and it fails at the checkout when I get to the shipping selections.
Any idea if/when this will be fixed? |
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| Tristanc1 |
Epoch,
There were a whole lot of changes to USPS shipping services in the past few days I think, they abolished a few services and most of the changes were to international shipping. Apparently it's creating havoc with many online e-tailers. I'm not affiliated with DIYenclosures but i'm pretty sure that's the problem, so hang in there it's worth the wait for these cases.
Just another thing aswell, i've always had to put in my shipping selection twice, so maybe try that if you haven't already, just in case it's not what I mentioned above.
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| eboz |
I know about the shipping problem and the changes that USPS made. I wish they didn't make changes like this and cause shipping to fail. Now international orders at my site will not work until it's fixed because USPS is the only option that I have for international. I will get the site fixed ASAP and let you all know... In the meantime I'm still taking the orders via PayPal if necessary.
As far as the heatsink versions go: It looks like I won't have a new order of these until further notice. I've just run into various complications. :xeye: |
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| kongdeng |
| The machine makes out really beautiful |
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| TurboFC3S |
| So what's the chance of having some 1712-HS cases in stock any time soon? I'm ready to order a few ... |
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| bequerel |
Received my 1712 chassis with the optional 2 mm top plate yesterday.
I have not had the time to assemble it yet, but from what I can see this chassis is really high quality!
I also ordered som polished knobs. Wow!! These are exceptionally well made, with an absolutely flawless surface! "I did not expect that", as Simon Cowell in American Idol would have said.
The chassis was very well packaged, and the polished knobs came in their own separate draw string pouches. (I suppose that the last word is not the correct one, but I think you all know what I mean.)
Shipment to Norway took only a few days. Highly recommended. |
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| nycavsr2000 |
Mike does make great enclosures. Now where are the heatsink versions? I really need them to finish my Greg Ball SKA amplifiers! I really don't want an alternative since my CAD program is ready to engrave on Mike's enclosures. Is there any way we can help? Preorder a minimum to make it worth your while?
Oh well...Anand. |
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| Variac |
Hmmmm. How does your CAD engraving work?
It has to frustrating having a business. You run out of a case and people go elsewhere for everything. You order a bunch of something else and no one wants it! Still, can't be good to leave people "unfulfilled" There is no doubt that there will always be a market around here for cases with LARGE heatsinks. :o |
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| eboz |
Sorry to not get back to everyone sooner, but I am super busy. It's possible that we could do a group order for the heatsink versions, but the price would be higher. The reason my prices are able to keep low is because of my bulk orders. To get a really good discount, you need to do a run of at least 100 chassis. Still... we can do allright with maybe 30 chassis, but less than 10 and it's just really expensive. Let's see how many people are interested in a preorder and I will see what we can do.
The reason I've not re-ordered the heatsink version is because I only have a slow trickle of orders for the other versions. I must have a steady sale of both for the business to work. So basically the sale of the normal chassis have not kept up with the heatsink versions.
FYI on the DIY-1712 model I am running out of two parts:
one left: blank black front panel version
two left: black ventilated top panel version
I still have a good stock of the other faces and the blank black tops. I have plenty of silver chassis all around. |
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| nycavsr2000 |
Okay...now we're getting somewhere. What's the price of the 1712HS if only 10 are ordered? How about 30? How about 100? I remember it being ~$150 a piece. What costs are we talking now?
Mike, your chassis are great! My preference has been for a the black heatsink chassis with a silver or black front panel. Come on folks, let's preorder!
I'll be happy with (2) DIY 1712HS black ventilated chassis with either silver or black front panel. So we've got two so far.
Variac, my CAD engraving is all done on Front Panel Express.
Best,
Anand. |
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| eboz |
| I'll price these, but I think we can have a pretty low price as before. If I can get a preorder for at least 15 of the DIY-1712HS or DIY-1013HS, then I will make an order for 50 chassis. Do we have that many people interested? |
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| nycavsr2000 |
Put me down for at least (1) 1712HS enclosure. I'll ask around to get others as well...
Best,
Anand. |
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| h_a |
Hi eboz!
Is this the same heatsink as used before in the 1712HS? Because I hoped you would consider something more capable...
Cheers, Hannes
PS: I need to check first, but in case all fits, I would be interested in a 1x 1013HS and 1x 610 - but let me check first! |
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| h_a |
Err sorry I meant, is this the same heatsink as used before in the 1013HS? Because I hoped you would consider something more capable...
The 1013HS is a keen candidate for ClassA-beasts, but that would mean 200W power dissipation capability...
Cheers, Hannes |
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| TurboFC3S |
| I'd be down for 3 1712-HS cases ... not being able to order a decent looking and built case is the only reason I haven't placed my order with SKA amps yet. |
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| hayenc |
| Is there a possibility of ordering the 1712-HS cases without the heat sinks? Then we could determine what our heat sink requirements are, especially with all the new F4 interest, and then pick our own heatsinks. We needed to drill the heatsinks to mount them on your original cases, so would not be too much more work, but would give us a bit more freedom. |
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| Variac |
I don't think the 1712 HS is near big enough for a 2 channel F4.
It would require a 1013HS I THINK
Or a new model: A 1712 Ultra HS ;) 17"x 12"x 6.1" tall
What are the options eboz? I can see how things get complicated fast, but around here there are lots of Class A projects that require a lot of heatsinking.... |
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| hayenc |
You are right. I was confusing models. But it is not clear that the Heat Sinks that I got with the 1013HS will make it for the F4, or an Aleph 30 that I was originally planning, so have been looking at retrofitting some other larger heat sinks that I have.
Maybe we need to work out a set for the various Class A projects and recommend them. The rest of the chassis is so perfect and well made, that we should match the heat sinks we need.
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| Variac |
| And this would help eboz get chassis that he can sell a lot of... |
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| eboz |
| quote: | Originally posted by hayenc
You are right. I was confusing models. But it is not clear that the Heat Sinks that I got with the 1013HS will make it for the F4, or an Aleph 30 that I was originally planning, so have been looking at retrofitting some other larger heat sinks that I have.
Maybe we need to work out a set for the various Class A projects and recommend them. The rest of the chassis is so perfect and well made, that we should match the heat sinks we need.
Craig |
Craig,
I do have a couple of chassis with the cut-out for heatsink side panels. If you'd like one, just let me know and make an order for a normal chassis. I will sell it to you for the normal version price of course. Just make sure to order it with the black body because I only have black side panels for heatsinks. |
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| eboz |
Anand: (2) DIY 1712HS black ventilated chassis with either silver or black front panel.
Hannes: (possibly) I would be interested in a 1x 1013HS and 1x 610
TurboFC3S: 3 1712-HS cases
That makes maybe 6 so far. :bigeyes:
If I were making a lot more sales and a higher demand for the HS version, I would develop a custom heatsink. :devilr:
AND it would be of better quality than the heatsinks I used before, pre-tapped and untouched by human hands. |
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| hayenc |
Sent you an order for those two chassis, Invoice 86. Will work with others to try to get you some specs for a custom heat sink that would work and try to drum up some more business on this chassis. They really are so well built that I hope to help you continue.
There are so many comments out there about the chassis taking half the time of a project and also many incomplete projects due to no chassis. You really are contributing here with some high quality.
Craig |
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| EvilYoda |
| I'll be keeping an eye on what you guys end up doing...I'll also be building an Aleph 30 in a few months (smaller projects first)... |
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| TurboFC3S |
| Just wanted to let you know that if the 1712-HS aren't available within about the next 6 weeks, that I'm probably going to end up having to buy something else ... no pressure :smash: |
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| nycavsr2000 |
Any updates on the availability of these chassis? Else, I might have to bite the bullet and go with someone else.
Thanks,
Anand. |
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