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SvErD
I'm looking for some high quality power input connectors for my Aleph 2's. Something equaling the quality of the Wattgate plugs.
Does anyone know where to get something like that? Apreciate any help.
Svein
Philo
Try PartExpress, they carry both WattGate and Marinco IEC320 plugs. I sometimes find the connectors on Ebay but they are few and far between. http://www.partsexpress.com/[/URL]
SvErD
Thanks, I know there are several options on plugs, but for the chassis part I've only been able to find cheap stuff. Same about the wall plug(european).
Svein
peranders
Have you checked www.elfa.se ? They have a dozen different types, rather good, some of them with built-in fuses.

Search for "apparatintag".
SvErD
Yes I know Elfa, it's my main parts supplier. What I'm looking for is something that matches this http://www.welbornelabs.com/wattgate.htm
peranders
I suspect that your search is in vane.

I think the market in Europe is minimal for this special 230 volt connector.

Never thought of a blue IEC connector, heavy industrial use?
pinkmouse
Russ Andrews does some stuff like that.
peranders
If you really want to help SvErD out, you must look for 230 V connector, not 110/120 volt.
SvErD
Sorry for not beeing clear/accurate enough about what I need. I'm looking for the chassis connector, the one that is installed in the amp. The ultimate would have been made from bakelite with gold plated copper connectors. All I can find is the cheap plastic/cromed steel stuff below, or variant of it with switch, fuse etc.
Philo
Aaahh, I get it now. :bulb: You are looking for and IEC350/320 jack. I looked through all my references and was unable to come up with what you described above (bakelite/gold plated contacts). The best source I found with the most variety of different jacks is NEWARK. The offer a very extensive selection, but I prefer Schurter products, they seem to be better built and most are rated for euro power.
tvi
The closest thing I know of is:

<a href="http://www.furutech.com/accessory_page3.htm#04"><img src="http://www.furutech.com/0305/b-inletg.gif"></a>
INLET(G) : Audio grade AC INLET
Conductor with Non-magnetic 24K Gold plated.
Type: 2-pole+earth
Rating: 10A 250V A.C. for North American
Features: All parts are proceed with Bronze and non-magnetism.
Specifications: Totally insulated body is constructed of Nylon .
Certification: UL Recognized 10A 250V A.C. conductor.

Jope this helps
Regards
James
Philo
tvi,
Nice, but where would we get such a treasure?
BrianGT
Wouldn't it be better to just wire the power directly into your Aleph 2 amplifiers and skip the IEC chassis connector? No matter how good of an IEC connector that you get, you are still adding contacts, which I couldn't imagine to be better then wiring straight in. I wouldn't imagine that you would be moving the Alephs around too much, so the attached power cable shouldn't make much of a difference.

I just figured for mine, I go to all of the work of getting a nice power plug, some 10ga power cable, and why not wire the power cable directly into the transformer...

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Brian
pinkmouse
Via a fuse of course, Brian;)
tvi
Heres a link;
<a href="http://www.mr-cable.com/ac_iec's.htm">Furutech: Chassis- Inlet-G - US$ 17.50</a>
Not Cheap, direct wiring is looking even better

James
BrianGT
quote:
Originally posted by pinkmouse
Via a fuse of course, Brian;)

of course :D wouldn't want to leave the hot wire unfused.

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Brian
BrianGT
speaking of fuses, has anyone considered using breaker switches instead? You could use them to replace both a power switch and fuse.

Any drawbacks?

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Brian
pinkmouse
Breakers are not designed to be used regularly as switches, and would have a shorter life if used as such.

But I can see no problem in using one as well as a power switch, I don't know what it's like on your side of the pond, but they can be obtained in Europe with different ratings and speeds, so ones rated for motor use should be fine for inrush currents on big transformers. The only problems I can see are the inaccesibility of the contacts for cleaning, unlike fuseholders, and the limited range of values they are available in, as well as the expense over a normal fuse and holder.
BrianGT
Home Depot has a huge selection of breakers, and the cost wouldn't be that much more if you calculated the cost of the normal power switch and the fuse and fuse holder into the cost for comparison.

What about implementing it similar to the pass labs amplfiers, using a breaker for the back, and then using a push button switch on the front triggering relays to turn the amp on, or putting it in standby mode? This way, you could also improve the life of the caps by leaving them charged when in standby mode.

You could use a toggle relay and a push button for activating the standby mode. I wonder if this is what the pass labs amps use...

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Brian

quote:
Originally posted by pinkmouse
Breakers are not designed to be used regularly as switches, and would have a shorter life if used as such.

But I can see no problem in using one as well as a power switch, I don't know what it's like on your side of the pond, but they can be obtained in Europe with different ratings and speeds, so ones rated for motor use should be fine for inrush currents on big transformers. The only problems I can see are the inaccesibility of the contacts for cleaning, unlike fuseholders, and the limited range of values they are available in, as well as the expense over a normal fuse and holder.
pinkmouse
Sounds like a great idea, why not give it a go!;)
SvErD
tvi:
Thanks a lot:) , thats just what the doctor ordered.

Brian:
Yes I've thought about wiring directly into the amp(via fuses of course), but I like to have the opportunity to be able to change cable easily. By the way I'm using DIY power cables:
3 x 2.5 mm˛ solid core.

Thanks again
Svein
peranders
quote:
Originally posted by tvi
The closest thing I know of is:

<a href="http://www.furutech.com/accessory_page3.htm#04"><img src="http://www.furutech.com/0305/b-inletg.gif"></a>
INLET(G) : Audio grade AC INLET
Conductor with Non-magnetic 24K Gold plated.
Type: 2-pole+earth
Rating: 10A 250V A.C. for North American
Features: All parts are proceed with Bronze and non-magnetism.
Specifications: Totally insulated body is constructed of Nylon .
Certification: UL Recognized 10A 250V A.C. conductor.

I'm a bit surprised that tvi finally found something but I think also that it's very near fraud. The only special thing is really the gold plated part. This connector is 10 times more expensive than a regular one. I don't deny that it look good though. I like gold and the colour of it!

Gold is very useful when the contact pressure is low and/or currents are low. I think gold is totally unneccessary in mains circuit, besides gold isn't very durable. How many insertions does this connector withstand without tearing the gold of?

But once again: Gold look cool.
BrianGT
quote:
Originally posted by peranders


I'm a bit surprised that tvi finally found something but I think also that it's very near fraud. The only special thing is really the gold plated part. This connector is 10 times more expensive than a regular one. I don't deny that it look good though. I like gold and the colour of it!

Gold is very useful when the contact pressure is low and/or currents are low. I think gold is totally unneccessary in mains circuit, besides gold isn't very durable. How many insertions does this connector withstand without tearing the gold of?

But once again: Gold look cool.

I thought that it simply looked like a regular connector that is gold plated. I find the idea of a gold plated power connector kind of useless. I can think better ways to spend money on an amplifier, such as elements that are directly in the signal path.

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Brian

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