| Follow up to cap sleeve thread,Wire color makes a diffrence!! - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| CryingDragon |
| Did you all know that using wire with red insulation to carry positive and black to carry negative will help in keeping the polarity separate thus reducing ripple? :devilr: |
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| halojoy |
| quote: | Originally posted by CryingDragon
Did you all know that using wire with red insulation to carry positive and black to carry negative will help in keeping the polarity separate thus reducing ripple? :devilr: |
This is nothing new.
In fact these colors have been used
for ages to improve the electrical qualities of circuits.
It is important to polish the insulation
every now and then,
to keep the currents fresh and clean. :cool: |
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| CryingDragon |
| And green is best for ground, It helps immensely in reducing ground loops because, as we all know then color green is very straight on the molecular level thus making the loops straight and thus eliminating them :D |
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| fdegrove |
Hi,
We the colourblind use unbleeched coton insulation for best sound.
In that way the deaf can hear what the blind have to say.
Ciao.;) |
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| peranders |
| Now I'm really confused. Electrons are yellow, why haven't the cables yellow insulation? My research shows that electrons runs faster in yellow cables. The noise is also reduced. :yes: |
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| Christer |
As you all know, there are red, green and blue quarks and quarks
make up the protons and neutrons. Hence you should avoid
using any of these colours for insulation, since it will confuse the
electrons, which won't be able to tell the insulation from the
atoms they jump between, making them run into the insulation
and get stuck there every now and when. :) |
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| leroy |
| I installed a lightbulb inside my amplifier and speaker cabinet so the electrons can see where they are going. The result is a much brighter sound :D |
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| halojoy |
| quote: | Originally posted by fdegrove
Hi,
We the colourblind use unbleeched cotton insulation for best sound.
In that way the deaf can hear what the blind have to say.
Ciao.;) |
Cotton can do for most of us.
The sound you get, is somewhat less plastic and more soft.
For REAL high end, with a smooth, warm and rich upper rolloff,
there is only one thing:
:att'n: HAND-WOVEN NATURE SILK :att'n: |
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| SkinnyBoy |
| The red ones ALWAYS go faster. Use red for everything... The sound will be faster and so will be the electricity from the mains.. :) Faster power means better bass!!!!!!! I tink.. |
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| fdegrove |
Hi,
| quote: | | For REAL high end, with a smooth, warm and rich upper rolloff, |
| quote: | | HAND-WOVEN NATURE SILK |
Where do you buy your caterpillars?:D
Ciao,;) |
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| UrSv |
| quote: | Originally posted by CryingDragon
And green is best for ground, It helps immensely in reducing ground loops because, as we all know then color green is very straight on the molecular level thus making the loops straight and thus eliminating them :D |
Actually for the ground you must use a wire that has two colours which need to be complimentary to the plus and minus wire colours otherwise you will not be optimal for the return currents and imbalance will occur. Common mistake.
/UrSv
PS. Having a light in the enclosure can be very good but I once took a 100 W bulb and blinded my signal so that it actually never came out. Be careful and use just the right light intensity so that it is comfortable but not too bright for the electrons. |
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| pinkmouse |
| quote: | | I installed a lightbulb inside my amplifier and speaker cabinet so the electrons can see where they are going. The result is a much brighter sound |
NO, NO, NO, you are just confusing them with all the different frequencies of light!
What you need is 3 tuneable lasers with light pipes surrounding each wire. This will allow you to tailor the frequency response of each laser to the exitation frequency of the colour of the sheath, causing the electrons in the sheath to bounce around madly. This will stop the needed electrons in the cable from getting into the insulation, and keep them on the right path.
However, this now means I have to use blue wire for my negative rails, as when I used black, the military surplus UV laser I used took out my amp, walls, and fence outside, as well as half the block!:D :D |
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| Christer |
| quote: | Originally posted by halojoy
Cotton can do for most of us.
The sound you get, is somewhat less plastic and more soft.
For REAL high end, with a smooth, warm and rich upper rolloff,
there is only one thing:
:att'n: HAND-WOVEN NATURE SILK :att'n: |
No, no, silk is over-rated. Cotton is at least as good, but make
sure you get ecological cotton which is non-toxic, or the electrons
will show sub-optimal performance. |
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| mrfeedback |
Dyes used to colour insulation affect the dielectric properties.
Different dielectric properties affect sonics.
Avoid dyes containing Cadmium.
Chromium dioxide pigment sounds good.
Eric. |
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| fdegrove |
Hi,
Think none of them were seroius about this anyways.
Little do they know that chemicals do affect sonics as do plastic polymers in general.
They probably never heard about fluorines,they don't know about field effects,they are in general ignorant about anything.
But I forgive them,:rolleyes: |
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| jean-paul |
| What about cables without insulation ? Do I have to shine a blue LED on them ? :drunk: |
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| pinkmouse |
| quote: | | ,they are in general ignorant about anything. |
Just because we were having some fun doesn't require personal insults, Frank, I think an apology is in order... |
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| jean-paul |
| How dare you to beg an apology from our :wiz: Frank ? |
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| mrfeedback |
and "None so blind as those that will not see" and "None so deaf as those who will not listen"
Idiots and stupidity
Eric. |
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| Circlotron |
| quote: | Originally posted by jean-paul
What about cables without insulation ? Do I have to shine a blue LED on them ? :drunk: |
A clear LED is better. Works even better on cables with clear insulation. Don't expect good results in the proximity of black holes though. The clear beam gets deflected like a stream of water in a strong wind. Then you have to move the cable to where the light would have been if you did not look at it. Even so, one of the LED's is both the same so if you don't mind pushing a wheelbarrow load of smoke into the middle of next week you can circumscribe the quantum jitter of nonsyncopated nolathane by removing every fourth segment of left-handed shadows. Yes. |
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| mrfeedback |
Now, just what kind of water are you drinking there Graham ?. :D
Eric. |
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| creatre |
| How do I fend of the neutrinos? I’ve been poking small hole in the cable (about 0.1-0.2 nm) to allow them to pass and have noticed a more detailed sound. I'm thinking if I could fend them of instead it would allow the electrons to move even more freely (I'm using superconductive cables). |
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| halojoy |
| quote: | Originally posted by fdegrove
Hi,
Think none of them were seroius about this anyways.
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But I forgive them, :rolleyes: |
Hope his forgiveness
still is in work. :eek:
We might need lots of it!
What about painting Compact Discs
and putting them in the freezer?
Or buy a refridgerator
to place your CD-player in.
A great way to get max Cool and Colorful Music! :cool: |
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| CryingDragon |
I do not think that was called for, I was only trying to give everybody a laugh when perhaps some of them needed it most, this was a joke thread to begin with and notice the subject was wire COLOR not wire insulation polymers. I agree and think an apology is in order for everybody you unnecessarily insulted on Thanksgiving Day. (pardon those whom do not celebrate it)
CryingDragon :mad: |
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| paulb |
| quote: | Originally posted by Circlotron
...if you don't mind pushing a wheelbarrow load of smoke into the middle of next week you can circumscribe the quantum jitter of nonsyncopated nolathane by removing every fourth segment of left-handed shadows. Yes. |
I think you mean every third segment. |
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| ashok |
| quote: | Originally posted by Christer
....................it will confuse the
electrons, which won't be able to tell the insulation from the
atoms they jump between, making them run into the insulation
and get stuck there every now and when. :) |
That's why super audio cable has to be purple - the colour of the atoms. They will slide off the insulation producing a smooth sound.Purple dye is very expensive ( the one used for this application ) and hence good audio cables will be very expensive !!
What a colourful thread. Someone pass me the beer .............. |
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| Circlotron |
| quote: | Originally posted by paulb
I think you mean every third segment. |
I tried that but I got a heterodox heterodyne that looked for all the world like a vernier scale. Then I dropped a serious Fibonacci on my toe and while the gears of the cosmos were grating an anticlockwise trimester that had gone surety for a noname nebulizer decided it was time for the 6 o'clock news. I wax poetic... That's enough rubbish from me I think. |
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| zeno |
Music is coloursensitive!
As far as I have been told by experienced listeners, New Age music is best reproduced on systems with internal wiring in
AT LEAST 4 colours of the rainbow.
It is furthermore of the highest importance that the wiring of the left channel is mirrored in the right channel and that the original colourscheme of the rainbow is respected (from the left of the amplifier to the right for the left channel and vice versa for the right channel).
If one doesn’t respect this rule of thumb, music signals get mixed and the intended stereo-mix will get lost.
New Age music should not be played on systems with the colourcoding on resistors still visible, since this colourcoding doesn't respect the rainbow. That’s why every resistor has to be repainted before use and this repainting process has to be done manually, using a brush without animal hair.
Punk prefers black internal wiring. |
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| creatre |
| quote: | Originally posted by Circlotron
I tried that but I got a heterodox heterodyne that looked for all the world like a vernier scale. Then I dropped a serious Fibonacci on my toe and while the gears of the cosmos were grating an anticlockwise trimester that had gone surety for a noname nebulizer decided it was time for the 6 o'clock news.
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Charles Lutwidge Dodgson told me you were good ;) |
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| SuppersReady |
| quote: | | Now, just what kind of water are you drinking there Graham ?. |
Eric, I don't think it's the water, could simply be overexposure to Star Trek:TNG. (Geordie-speak).
Paul |
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| halojoy |
| quote: | Originally posted by zeno
Music is coloursensitive!
New Age music should not be played on systems with the colourcoding on resistors still visible, since this colourcoding doesn't respect the rainbow. That’s why every resistor has to be repainted before use and this repainting process has to be done manually, using a brush without animal hair.
Punk prefers black internal wiring. |
Yes, those resistors are really a big problem.
At least they could put those color codes along with the body.
Now they cross the signal.
Strangles the flow several times per resistor.
Takes away too much of the dynamics
and compresses the peaks. :mad: |
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| SuppersReady |
Halojoy, you obviously have a deep emotional understanding of things New Age. But you forgot to mention that all internal wiring should be green and chassis should be made of the thinnest pressed steel panels possible. You know, like a Citroen 2CV.
Thinking calm and :earth:ly thoughts,
Paul |
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| Pjotr |
Hi,
All is true. But what explains this color sensitivity? Any ideas?
I’ve also found those color-coded resistors sound terribly bad. The signal seems to get confused by so many colors together. Black ones with a white print on them sound much better. |
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| SuppersReady |
| quote: | | But what explains this color sensitivity? |
Things are always easier to understand when they are seen in black & white.
Paul |
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| mrfeedback |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuppersReady
Eric, I don't think it's the water, could simply be overexposure to Star Trek:TNG. (Geordie-speak).
Paul |
Paul, it could be, but I'm not sure....:xeye:
Whatever it is, I'm not sure that I'm willing to try it... :eek: :D
Eric. |
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| mrfeedback |
Amongst all you smart alecs with such wit, did any of you notice the statement below (given previously), or grasp the concept ?.
(Frank excepted - I know that he understands these sort of physics explanations)
"Coloured Sonics.....
Dyes used to colour insulation affect the dielectric properties.
Different dielectric properties affect sonics.
Avoid dyes containing Cadmium.
Chromium dioxide pigment sounds good."
Eric. |
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| halojoy |
| quote: | Originally posted by mrfeedback
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"Coloured Sonics.....
Dyes used to colour insulation affect the dielectric properties.
Different dielectric properties affect sonics.
Avoid dyes containing Cadmium.
Chromium dioxide pigment sounds good."
Eric. |
Isn't that what we are saying all the time. :angel:
But noone seems to listen to us .... :bawling:
How many times do we have to repeat?
Seems it can be repeated enough.
But we will endure in our efforts
as this is what we all will benefit from.
Thanks, Eric
you know it both by science and ear,
we know it by some dreadfully bad experiences |
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| Christer |
| quote: | Originally posted by mrfeedback
Amongst all you smart alecs with such wit, did any of you notice the statement below (given previously), or grasp the concept ?.
(Frank excepted - I know that he understands these sort of physics explanations)
"Coloured Sonics.....
Dyes used to colour insulation affect the dielectric properties.
Different dielectric properties affect sonics.
Avoid dyes containing Cadmium.
Chromium dioxide pigment sounds good."
Eric. |
Yes, I did, and just because there may actually be a slight effect
in some cases we are not allowed to joke about about coloured
wires?? Eric, I have sensed in several threads that you are
extremely sensitive to critisism about audible differences you
claim to hear. Such reactions, for whatever topic, are often,
not necessarily in you case, a sign that people are actually quite
uncertain about their own claims/opinions. People who are
sure about where they stand usually tolerate moderate levels
of jokes and often even show some healthy self-criticism by
making jokes themselves. I often take opera as a prime example
here. Opera has always been laughed at and ridiculed by people
who do not understand or like it. However, I don't think I know
of any business that has produced so many jokes about
itself and so much self-irony as the opera world itself. I don't
mean to offend you in any way, just suggesting that you ease
up a bit in these matters. |
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| mrfeedback |
I do have a sense of humour, don't you worry about that.
I did also acknowledge the wit given so far.
I also get a deep laugh from those who will not understand.
I just meant does anybody else understand the ramifications of what I said ?.
They do go much deeper than the surface understanding of such a statement.
Eric. |
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| halojoy |
always look at the bright side of life
even though everything is misery around you
and only getting worse by every minute
To be regarded as being serious
we have to be able to have a laugh at ourselves
Look at us all here at DiyAudio.
To more "normal" people
we are all just a bunch of ridicolous noerds :D
And the biggest noerd of them all
might be Nelson Pass :D |
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| Christer |
The problem is, of course, that we usually have no information
of what dyes are used in the insulation of our cables. The
examples you give are probably not very interesting, by the
way, since they would hardly be uesd nowadays, at least here
in Europe. Maybe cadmium pigments are still allowed for such
use on some markets, but not here. As for chromium, this is not
likely to be used. There are at least three such pigments,
crhomium yellow, rare and very poisinous, chromium green and
viridian. All of these are likely to be considered unnecessarily
expensive for use in cables and the industry most certainly
use azo and phtalocyanine pigments instead.
My guess at pigments used is: azo for yellows, napthol for reds,
phtalocyanines for blue and green, mars pigments for black and
brownish and titanium dioxide for white. I don't have a clue
about how any of these would affect the dielectric properties.
What about magnetic properties? Mars colours are based
of ferroxide, for instance. |
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| SuppersReady |
Oh dear, this has got far too serious. I was quite enjoying the lunacy of the previous pages, this could get far too informative!:eek:
Paul |
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| halojoy |
| quote: | Originally posted by CryingDragon
Did you all know that using wire with red insulation to carry positive and black to carry negative will help in keeping the polarity separate thus reducing ripple? :devilr: |
This is the original subject of this thread.
A method used is to let posts
that does not follow the subject
start a new thread.
I think that this is not needed at all in this case.
The different angles presented
can instead gives us new ideas
to implement.
Is there any colored materials we have overlooked?
I personally have a slight idea
that if the color of the clothes I have on,
matches the color of my loudspeaker cables,
I get more tuned in to the music that is playing.
I could be wrong.
Have anyone else tested this? :confused:
A problem can be if you use stripped wire for LSP-cable.
Then the color of the insulation is invisable. |
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| Pjotr |
| quote: | Originally posted by halojoy
I personally have a slight idea
that if the color of the clothes I have on,
matches the color of my loudspeaker cables,
I get more tuned in to the music that is playing.
I could be wrong.
Have anyone else tested this? :confused:
A problem can be if you use stripped wire for LSP-cable.
Then the color of the insulation is invisable. |
Good point, talking about the “Clothes of the Emperor” :confused:
:D |
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| pinkmouse |
Hi Moderators
I made a post about 12.00 gmt that seems to have been removed- bugs or censorship? |
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| Christer |
| quote: | Originally posted by pinkmouse
Hi Moderators
I made a post about 12.00 gmt that seems to have been removed- bugs or censorship? |
Most certainly censorship, I'd guess. This forum has american
readers, mind you. ;) |
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| pinkmouse |
And there was I thinking the Americans loved Monty Python...
Hmmm Why? |
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| lineup |
| quote: | Originally posted by halojoy
Isn't that what we are saying all the time. :angel:
But noone seems to listen to us .... :bawling:
How many times do we have to repeat?
Seems it can be repeated enough.
But we will endure in our efforts
as this is what we all will benefit from.
Thanks, Eric
you know it both by science and ear,
we know it by some dreadfully bad experiences |
| quote: | Originally posted by halojoy
always look at the bright side of life
even though everything is misery around you
and only getting worse by every minute
To be regarded as being serious
we have to be able to have a laugh at ourselves
Look at us all here at DiyAudio.
To more "normal" people
we are all just a bunch of ridicolous noerds :D
And the biggest noerd of them all
might be Nelson Pass :D |
Cool DownMister, Please, Cool down!
:cool: DIY Audio is nothing to laugh about!
It is a serious thing in the long, long history of mankind.
> ... we are all just a bunch of ridicolous noerds
And the biggest noerd of them all might be Nelson Pass
You should not say so about our One and Only.
Hope he can forgive you for those words.
Besides, on topic:
we use several different coluors in our amplifiers.
Both inside and outside of them.
As well as many coloors for our wires, resistors and capacitors.
Regards
lineup
Lineup Audio Labs Inc. |
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