| RussianE39 |
Hi!
After extensive experience with repairing that CDs I could tell you some facts. I'm willing that someone could prove it or tell me different version. So, I've repaired for now 4 of this CD-P's and ALL of them got HUGE power supply ripple (about 0.2 volts on +5V dig supply, and even 0.4-0.5 volt on +/- 10V supply rail for focus/radial motor tracking OPamp. Is this normal? It just slightly drops after recapping with new Panasonic caps. Also, +/- 10V supply rails for L272 focus/radial opamp is often not +/- 10V, for example 3 of CDp's got +10,4 / -12,5 after warm up. Is THIS normal? As I could see from schematic, that bug is made from factory - voltage regulator for -10V made on discrete transistor, not on usual LM337.
So, after all of this, is this worth to make clean power supply for that CDPs? |
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| Zoran |
These days I am changing the old caps in PS
of B226, somehow I catch looking at the SCH,
that power supply is very common...
When I change PS big caps the sound was better...
probbably they was old 15 years or more.
Interesting, but this CD sounds with poor PS, better then most
other...
Power transformer is very good for my oppinion
maybe this is the key...
Consumption of the all system is lets say low
comparing with philips cds, because of les heatihg,
with smaller heatsink...
Maybe the tracking preregulator design (look at the 317 data sheet)
will do a better job, and it can be fit in same space at heat sink? |
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| Gasho |
| I think that Studer /Revox cdp´s use a low voltage switcher PS+LM for digital sections , and LM3xx for analog sections. |
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| Zoran |
I saw sch,
and only LM317 and LM337 present
for digital part as well as for analog...
with a standard, chip manufacturer
recommended connection...
Very simple.
I shall post the sch... |
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| Bernhard |
Hello,
I got a dead A727 that had a shorted 10000µ/16V Frako cap.
After replacement it still does not read disc.
Questions :
I measure -15V but only +12,2V for op amp supply. Is that right ?
On the prozessor / servo board there is an empty socket like for 8-pin op amp from the two L272 and the two pots to the upper left.
Is that ok or something missing here ? |
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| Bernhard |
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| Netlist |
The manual says -15 and +12V.
As for the IC, the picture in the manual shows an equal empty space.
/Hugo |
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| Bernhard |
Thanks, sometimes when I press play, the player goes off completely.
Recently it was on for longer time and it played but with strong artefacts.
When I touched the upper pot with screwdriver to adjust, it blew one of the 1,25A fuses on the transformer/CDM1.
Going out to buy fuses :dead:
I love Studer / Revox , always multiple errors :D |
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| Netlist |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bernhard
Going out to buy fuses :dead:
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And a pot...:)
/Hugo |
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| Bernhard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Netlist
And a pot...:)
/Hugo |
No, but it really blows the fuse when I turn on of those two pots.
That wasn't the case first. |
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| Bernhard |
Okay, works.
One of the TDA servo chips had bad contact in the low cost IC socket. |
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| ALP |
| Look my old project - PSU +\- 5V and +\-10V for B226. That PSU based on M5230 chips. |
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| Bernhard |
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| anatech |
Hi Bernhard,
Now that's nice. It doesn't look as cold and austere now.
I've used the M5230L before. It works well.
-Chris |
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| Zoran |
It is very nice
By the way
poor connection or missconnection of the board
with DAC chip, i think that is right PCB,
can burn the one of the BD transistor in power supply unit,
so, when putting things together, be sure that board is rightplaced...
some gum or hard spoonge distancers can be very good idea,
between PCB and bottom chasis, because PCB is long and thin,
and with frequently pulling in an out, the copper lines can be damaged,
that is exatly happeing with applying modifications...
Thanks |
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