| Jocko Homo |
The kind of stuff that stacks up in my inbox..........
I should not have to explain this, but it seems I have to. Just because all manner of bizarre things appear to take place while I am gone.......like "Phred" posting under his real name........does not mean I have anything to do with it. So:
I am not "Harry Haller".
"Harry Haller" is not me.
The fact that some of you people think that suggests to me that perhaps some of you guys spend too much time listening to Art Bell or Bill Cooper on SW radio. I've never even read any Herman Hesse.
OK......so maybe I've read Kafka.........
Anyway. I don't want to have to 'splain this again.
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| dice45 |
Jocko,
good to hear from you. No, you are not HH, i am convinced. I always was. :)
My mistake that Fred posts under his real name, mine alone. :)
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| planet10 |
Welcome back Jocko. Hope you had a good away trip.
I see someone stole your hat :D
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| Fred Dieckmann |
Are you now, or have you even been, a member of the "Harry Haller" party?
I like to think there is lttle Harry side to all of us.
I was the victim of circumstance as are we all,
Malachi Constant AKA "The Cyberspace Wanderer" |
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| Jocko Homo |
Sounds like **** to me. You are just another unemployed suburban telecom engineer, just like me.
Jocko |
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| 1/137 |
if you have to be unemployed Texas is a lot better place to be than Rochester NY...I am envious!
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| jh6you |
| quote: | I was the victim of circumstance as are we all,
Malachi Constant AKA "The Cyberspace Wanderer" |
You do not need to write down the names. Shout out them in your bath room, I will sense it here on the other side of the earth. |
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| mrfeedback |
"Harry Haller" is not me.
Welcome back Jocko.
Is your Mum ok now ?.
Eric. |
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| roddyama |
| quote: | | I was the victim of circumstance as are we all |
Hey! That means I was a victim of soycumstances too!
Rodd Yamashita |
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| Fred Dieckmann |
Another "name the band after a literary character" hommage...
Cool as a drag from my Moon Mist tobacco. Ooops... I feel the pull of the Chrono-Synclastic Infundibula. Time for Kazak and I to go.
Turning the ship upside down,
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| UrSv |
Sign o' the times...
Alas, I think they named the band after their favourite acid...not the music kind...which in turn probably was named after the famous guy.
/UrSv |
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| Ken L |
I never thought you were HH.
You always seemed more --
---------------Ummm --------------------
--wellllll---------------------------------
darn! I started to say rational but that didn't quite fit, then several other things that still didn't quite fit. :D
So I'll just say _balanced_.
Glad to see you round again, hope your life has settled down somewhat.
Ken L |
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| roddyama |
Uh uh uh!
:note: There’s a hold-up in the Bronx.
Brooklyn’s broken out in fights.
There’s a traffic jam in Harlem,
That’s backed up to Jackson Heights.:note:
:note: There’s a scout troop short a child.
Kruschev’s due at Idlewild.:note:
CAR 54 WHERE ARE YOU??:cannotbe:
Toody and Muldoon could have used the “pull of the Chrono-Synclastic Infundibula.”:)
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| Jocko Homo |
Some of us might be, but Mr. 137 is just a product of a bunch of dimensionless numbers multiplied together.
And while I am at it.......(rant time):
If I read one more time that guys like Phred and I are out of work because we are hard to get along with, I am going to come over to your house and shove your dog's head down the toilet.
We are out of work because the place(s) that we worked at closed entire departments; or like me.......entire divisions of the companies we were at. So everyone was on the street, from the biggest horse's butts to the tiniest, most timid, boot-licking toadie.
I don't want to have to 'splain this again.
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| 1/137 |
Uhmmmmmmmmmm that's 1/137 AND I am the product of 4 physical constants with dimensions (and a 1/2 too).
1/137 |
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| Ken L |
and that is my impression of what the rest of the posters here at diyaudio feel about you.
Besides, being out of work is somewhat like going bankrupt - it happens in the best of families and usually beyond the control of those involved.
It does however, feel very personal when you're out of work, or telling creditors to go ahead, serve you and knock themself out.
I never filed, eventually paid everyone that was still asking for their money and all of the "small businesses" regardless of how far back it went. The ones I had negotiated out or that wrote it off at my request simply remained that way.
When you're going through tough times it is hard to remember that it isn't personal, cause you sure have to deal with it personally.
In my case, I rode it all the way without filing during a textbook market shakeout and all of my competitors went under but one.
It'll turn the other way, sometimes it just seems like forever.
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| Jocko Homo |
One says 3.....the other 4.
Dimension, no dimension.......who cares. It is still about as good as "What do you get when you multiply 6 times 9?"
Forty two.
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| remp |
It'll turn the other way, sometimes it just seems like forever.
It'll never turn the other way. This is the way it will be forever or until people stop allowing their jobs and work and employment to be turned to S.H.I.T by greedy unscoupulous run right over the top of you bastards sitting in their 10,000 square foot luxury houses while they wonder what colour to paint the Yatch.
I say close your borders and make all your goods in your home country. Thats the way to stuff up this cancerous world trade that is putting you and your children out of employment.
This is not a political statement. Its a DIY statement. Lot of my best friends in the electronics industry are now totally unemployed. No one wants them. Too qualified, too old, too hard for management to **** on. Nobody wants real people anymore. They just want to import cheap **** from Asia and make a buck without really lifting a finger and doing any work.
I am totally convinced that New Zealand was a much happier place when we made more of our household goods ourselves.
My Government gets an earful from me (and others) regularly
See my website. |
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| 1/137 |
Jocko..I'm an experimentalist...it's experimental error...although the fine structure constant..alpha...approximately 1/137 is know to quite a few decimal places.
Remp..I agree and good luck. I looked at your web site and couldn't agree more. The US has a different set of problems but the results are the same. I've been unemployed for a year after our Chicago based billionaire real estate investor decided he didn't want to play in tech anymore. We were a small company manufacturing novel semiconductor packaging for RF and other high speed devices. We had just landed a contract to supply substrates for power amps going into Motorola's new phones and were about ready to make it. Well..on Monday (Nov. 5, 2001) we hear..."Close the doors on Thursday...and we aren't making the payroll...yeah we owe you 3 weeks pay...you will get it when we feel like giving it to you."
I had the pleasure of being in New Zealand the summer of 1970..loved it..a truly beautiful country...
Unfortunately politicians are the same everywhere...their only concern if for their own wealth and comfort...the same goes for most senior managers who are more concerned with their personal gains than building an ongoing organization. It has happened to every empire in history...now we see it happening globally.
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| Jocko Homo |
| quote: | Lot of my best friends in the electronics industry are now totally unemployed. No one wants them. Too qualified, too old, too hard for management to **** on. Nobody wants real people anymore. They just want to import cheap **** from Asia and make a buck without really lifting a finger and doing any work.
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Us? Too old? And too hard........
No, not at all! Right, Phred?
We could close the borders and things would still be screwed up. It doesn't matter where you are, management is full of short-sighted twits that can't see past next quarter.
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| 1/137 |
Jocko,
I agree..and it is true..close the borders of the US and we have enough homegrown dishonest untalented nitwits at the federal, state, local level + managing corporations that it would be a useless exercise here to close the borders...we would probably get another govenrment agency and nothing would be gained..
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| Ken L |
are the only true constant.
There is no turning the clock back -
Borders already seem to be weakening somewhat and will tend to weaken more in the future - following the free exchange of information over the internet.
While we're talking more like a "glacial" pace for them continuing to weaken - it seems to me that the level of international commerce is so high that it will only go forward at a greater pace with no reversal of trend
I'm trying to stay rational here and not get on a rant - so I'm not going to get onto the subject of increased government and increasing tax for less service.
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| fdegrove |
All anonymous,
And I'm sure you do not want my gloomy opinion on that either.
| quote: | | Borders already seem to be weakening somewhat and will tend to weaken more in the future - following the free exchange of information over the internet. |
What are these border protecting in the first place?
My biggest whish is that Europe will open up all borders while still respecting local culture ,for that is where true richess lies.
Amen;) |
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| Ken L |
that along with borders having less and less meaning, while also having less effect on our lives - there seems to be a "homogenizing" of the world - where the local culture seems to be disappearing at a faster rate - something that is very disappointing to me
I hope very much that you are right Frank -
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by fdegrove
What are these border protecting in the first place? |
To protect the power of those in power, at least originally...
| quote: | My biggest whish is that Europe will open up all borders while still respecting local culture, for that is where true richess lies.
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.... that the whole world will open up and yet allow us to preserve & nourish that which is unique & beautiful about every culture. One can olny think globally and act locally. We are doing a little bit by just being here.
Information & knowledge will be the true wealth as we move towards the future. We are currently going thru a societal and economic transformation on the order of the industrial revolution but in a fraction of the time span. There is bound to be some things perturbed.
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| remp |
I dont know about that
New Zealand has the second highest per capita usage of computer in the world and we were told that computers would solve all problems.
It has not happened.
We consistenlt run high balance of trade deficits
We owe Billions of dollars to overseas lenders.
We only have two NZ owned banks all the rest are overseas owned including the Bank of New Zealand.
Education is rated 27th in the OECD down from 3rd
Our hospital waiting list gets longer and longer
etc.
I love New Zealand but I hate the way it is going. People have stopped helping each other the way they used to.
I suppose we are just too small. The good thing is our immigration is sky high. Everyone wants to come here. |
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| fdegrove |
Hi,
| quote: | | Information & knowledge will be the true wealth as we move towards the future. We are currently going thru a societal and economic transformation on the order of the industrial revolution but in a fraction of the time span. There is bound to be some things perturbed. |
And wouldn't you agree that 99.99% of the population hasnt got a clue?
I'll be the last S.O.B. to spoil a dream,but one thing I learned:
History keeps on repeating itself.
Nobody learned anything even in the most painful of processes.
Ban all frontiers and you eventually end up with more borders than you started with.
Pessimistic?Prophet?
No,thks been at too many places at too many times read too many books don't watch the news anymore don't care about the wheather either.
Do I care about this forum? YES.
Let's show how strong our young generation really is and combine effort to crack this.
For that to happen Dave,get Jason away from his GF and let's get some analysis done.
As Ken said,we need info on hardware,OS and so on to help.
And what is wrong with JasonL's prop?
If only as a fallover soll.it would be great already.
Hell I could host you too at nominal cost + taxes.
Anyway.I hope this get solved asap and as Ken and myself stated if we can be of any use pls say so.
Rgds,
Frnk (264Bit bit encoded).
P.S.Lack of smileys is due to OZ political support.No offense to any party involved.I'm Belgian remember.
Next time I'l be Swiss. |
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| fdegrove |
Remp,
| quote: | | I suppose we are just too small. The good thing is our immigration is sky high. Everyone wants to come here. |
Give me a year and I'm there.
Alright,alright I know that's the last thing you want.
In all seriousness I wantrd to immigrate and thought New Zealand was dictated by Australian politics on that (just to show how things are perceived abroad).
And O.K.,I'll help with the schrubs.;)
See ya in OZ,:) |
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| fdegrove |
Ouch,
"What do you get when you multiply 6 times 9?"
Forty two.
Me?
I always did fine with chemistry,biology,hell even maths were fine.
But when it came to modern maths I had a hard time convincing people that 6 times 9 equalled 42.
Dunno why really.
Got kinda stuck at 6 times 7.
Anything above that bothered me.
Then I met a real mathematician called J.Homo.
He dug me real good and -splained it was 6 times 9 making 54!!
Got back to the schoolie after that,bit ashamed but what do ya expect?
Audio ergo sum,;)
P.S.This is an hommage to the great Jock Homo.Can we help you sir?:) |
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| Ken L |
that's where we're going -
Not that computers will solve anything - more that they are fueling the revolution
What's the saying -
The chinese character for crisis and opportunity are the same??
"It'll turn the other way"- "It'll never turn the other way"
Things will turn until the end of time, if we recognize the turns as they come along and turn with them, things will be turning with us even if we changed course to make the turn
:D
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by fdegrove
And wouldn't you agree that 99.99% of the population hasnt got a clue? |
You could say that about almost anything. The percentage might not be quite that high, but the sample i live in biases my opinion.
| quote: | | Ban all frontiers and you eventually end up with more borders than you started with. |
We have used up almost all the frontiers inside the gravity well, the next frontier is outside the gravity well...
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| fdegrove |
I'm confuced,
Was it Confucius or was it Confucius?
Point is every setback is a step in the right direction,something like that?
Peter Daniel where are you?
Cheers,:cool: |
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| Front 242 |
| There are no borders, only the ones in our heads. And space is still beyond our reach. |
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| remp |
Fdegrove
You will love New Zealand.
New Zealand used to be part of the great Southern continent called gondwandaland think thats the spelling many years ago but split of as an independant country.
New Zealand was named by a Dutch explorer who named it New Zeeland after a place in Holland. Probably Zeeland.
Settled mainly by British people.
There have been many comments about us joining Australia. Economy of scale might force it one day. Hate to see that happen. We have intense rivalry in sport with Australia, drive on the same side of the road (left side) and share many other similarities but most definiitly New Zealand is run by New Zealanders. Two main political parties. Labour and National. Labour was originally for the working man but not any more. Both are now center right parties
Market forces is the dominant ideology.
Thats the one that says the market will fix everything.
What they really mean is we dont know how to govern anymore so lets pretend we do but leave it all up to the market |
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| fdegrove |
What a group that was!!
Buena notte,bon soir, gutte Nacht,goede nacht,bonne nuit,good night?
Belgium speaking in two forked tongue?
Space is defined,no?:D |
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| fdegrove |
Remp,
I wasn't kidding.
And I definitely want to keep this in mind.
Our climate is killing me.
Cheers and thanks for the support,:cool: |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Front 242
space is still beyond our reach |
Space is not beyond our reach. It is just not politically sexy enuff.
Same with nuclear energy. Instead we burn coal and spew vast amounts of radiactive CO2 into the atmosphere (and the regular stuff is even worse).
The values that drive the economy are changing, and with that our world. It is just my hope that we can get enuff people off the earth to reap the vast riches out there, that we can control our population growth, and that we can innovate fast enuff that we don't drown in our own garbage.
Being pessamistic doesn't help. You just have to take steps forward, act locally, think globally.
If as fdegrove says, history repeats itself, then the next stage of civilization after the one where there is a huge beauracracy (like now), is picking up the pieces after the collapse.
The computer & it's offspring, the internet, even in its crude infancy, is a way for us to communicate with others all around the world. Once we realize that we all our in the same boat, share the same basic aspirations, and that the guy on the other side is really just like us, war becomes much harder, and we find ourselves sharing what we can to help uplift everyone.
Here we are doing 2 things, trying to help people enjoy music more, which makes people happier and more productive, and to encorage a world of more diverse, unique product by building it ourselves (this is not unique to audio, there is a surge of all sorts of DIY -- my wife sells sewing patterns and the DIY cloths market is also making a renaisance). The growth in these markets is partially driven by the economy but more so by the desire of people to express their creativity.
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| remp |
Planet10
war becomes much harder,
Do you really think war becomes much harder.
I know one American President who is very keen on a war against Iraq
Ostensibly to get rid of weapons of mass destruction. Strange that the worlds major oil reserves are nearby. |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by remp
I know one American President who is very keen on a war against Iraq |
I have been holding back on even mentioning him. He deserves the SinBin for a long time. I just hope the American people get off their butts and give him a good spanking on Tuesday.
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| remp |
fdegrove
Our climate is killing me.
What is wrong with your climate. ? |
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| Peter Daniel |
| quote: | Originally posted by planet10
It is just my hope that we can get enuff people off the earth to reap the vast riches out there, that we can control our population growth, and that we can innovate fast enuff that we don't drown in our own garbage.
Being pessamistic doesn't help. You just have to take steps forward, act locally, think globally.
If as fdegrove says, history repeats itself, then the next stage of civilization after the one where there is a huge beauracracy (like now), is picking up the pieces after the collapse.
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If history repeats itself, then taking off the Earth doesn't make much sense, because sooner or later we'll be drowning in our own garbage again, anyways. Why not concentrate our efforts on a situation at hand and try to change the future for the next generations to come, instead of thinking about the escape?;) |
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| Peter Daniel |
| quote: | Originally posted by fdegrove
What a group that was!!
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Frank,
I did not expect you to be a fan. Your interests seem to be rather 'classical'.;)
This might well be the best Belgium product, wasn't it?.;) |
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| remp |
Peter
Why not concentrate our efforts at the situation at hand and try to change the future for the next generations to come, instead of thinking about the escape?
My web site says what I think. And try to make it happen even though it is a seemingly hopeless task.
If you had total control to do just one thing, what would you do. |
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| Jocko Homo |
| "I always thought that there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe." - Arthur Dent |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Peter Daniel
Why not concentrate our efforts at the situation at hand and try to change the future for the next generations to come, instead of thinking about the escape?;) |
It isn't escape so much as it will bring new resources and technology* that will enrich the planet. It will allow us to move industries that are heavy polluters out into space where the bad stuff can just be shoved into a collision course with the sun. And as you pointed out, mankind needs a frontier to act as a safety valve & a stimulus. Not going into space in a big-way is a short-sighted dead-end.
* imagine what the chip-makers & medicine makers will be able to grow in micro-gravity where to get a clean-room better than anthing on earth means just "blowing" the hatches.
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| remp |
Planet10
I agree with you.
We already have the terminology
Warp one Mr Data,
Red alert sheilds up.
Eject the warp core
Abandon ship
Phazors on stun
Captain the Borg ship is closing on us
Well done number one
Humans have an insatiable interest in exploration.
Wether we will be exploring in space of our own free will or because we have stuffed up our own planet is a moot question. |
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| fdegrove |
Remp,
| quote: | | What is wrong with your climate. ? |
It's probably just me.
I need the sun and all that goes with it,people with smiles on their faces and such.
Winter just gets me down and it keeps on getting worse.
Mind you,when it is cold here it is also rather humid as well so it kind of gets to you in a nasty way.
Hate it.:bawling:
Peter,
Re: Front 242 and my taste in music.
Well,just don't pin me down on the stuff I post on classical music.
Actually I like all kinds of music as long as it is good (whatever the defintion might be for that).
Belgium is of course a very small country but we have some great musicians:
Tecnotronic being another example that was commercially successful.
Then there was TC Matic,singer Arno Hintjens is still kicking ***.
Jacques Brel,Toots Thielemans to name a few others.
Cheers,;) |
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| Peter Daniel |
| For a new beat.;) |
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| Jocko Homo |
-Herbert Anchovy, cheesey game show host, a. k. a., Micheal Palin.
Jocko |
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| fdegrove |
Hi Peter,
Not bad he?
I bet Jason would love to spend a week or two down here as well.:D
Hey Jocko,
My mistake for asking you to post I guess?
Anchovy...in French anchovis: that's that tiny little fish you sometimes get with your pizza.
Insignificant. :(
Cheers fellows, |
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| Jocko Homo |
Just seeing if you were awake.
Jocko |
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| fdegrove |
Hi Jocko,
Well,you didn't wake me up anyway.:yawn:
I can take a joke so shoot ahead.;)
Cheers,:D |
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| dice45 |
| quote: | | He deserves the SinBin for a long time. |
Dave,
disagreed. You are tooo lenient (but if i post what i think on the guy, i have to go to sin bin straight ... xxxxx xxxxxxx xxxx!!)
agreed on spaceflight and why it should be done.
Moreover, methinks the typically human habit to postpone problems and hoping time wold solve them leads to nowhere.
if we do not start trying to escape population pressure and leaving this planet, then our grandchildren will starve.
Our society is doomed: if the average concentration of intelligent minds per space rises over a certain level (i am not assuming emotional intelligence and instincts catch up with intellectual power), people jump each other, just in a quite sophisticated way.
I feel reminded on a short story by Stanislaw Lem: Experimenta Felicitologica.
the half-genius inventor ends up in creating µsocieties with atom-size cititens in a box and the box having controls outside for average intelligence in different fields, weight of instintcs, balance between self-interest and interest in common wealth, good or bad spirit, and mean deviation of those.
No matter how he fiddles with different combinations of parameters, the societies all sooner or later collapse. In different ways but a pattern becomes observable as soon as he messes one sampe up by accidentally having all paramters fully turned towards the negative and average intelligence ot high. This sample does not differ at all in its development, it survives a biot longer than expected, then crashing in a particularly spectacular way.
The common denominator is individual intelligence, as soon as this is too high, society is doomed, as soon as it is not high enough, it won't evolve to a state which than can be doomed. Depressing.
Methinks Lem is right. Only solution: escape on the lon run. Or getting extinct. |
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| fdegrove |
Dice45,
No you wouldn't.
Guess you don't want to start a BUSH-fire?:D
Cheers,:cool: |
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| dice45 |
| He will start his own one if he somehow get the chance. With the rest of the world to feed it. |
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| fdegrove |
Hoi!
Methinks Lem is right. Only solution: escape on the lon run. Or getting extinct.
Man,you forgot to take you Prozac.
Just a little joke to cheer you up:
QQ:Why do ducks have such wide,flat feet?
A:To stamp out BUSH-fires.
QQ:Why do elephants have such wide,flat feet?
A:To stamp out burning ducks.
;) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Cheer up, |
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| remp |
I have a very interesting book.
The limits to growth. A report for the Club of Rome
Library of congress catalog card number 73-187907
ISBN 0-87663-165-0
Publisher Universe books New York
1972
This is a high powered group of people looking at prospects of survival of the human race.
They fed all manner of data into powererful computers.
Data included global heat load, population increases, availability of fresh water, amount of arrable land for crop production, waste disposal, and so on.
Their scenario's involved adjustment of mix of parameters to try and judge the effect of different factors.
In all cases computer predictions gave a continued increase in human activity as we have now, and their overall conclusion was that at a certain point in time regardless of manipulation of the data for optimum results, civilisation on planet earth always started crashing irretreivably into chaos.
Want to know when that time is
Between 2010 and 2015 |
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| haldor |
| quote: | Originally posted by remp
I have a very interesting book.
The limits to growth. A report for the Club of Rome
Library of congress catalog card number 73-187907
ISBN 0-87663-165-0
Publisher Universe books New York
1972
This is a high powered group of people looking at prospects of survival of the human race.
They fed all manner of data into powererful computers.
Data included global heat load, population increases, availability of fresh water, amount of arrable land for crop production, waste disposal, and so on.
Their scenario's involved adjustment of mix of parameters to try and judge the effect of different factors.
In all cases computer predictions gave a continued increase in human activity as we have now, and their overall conclusion was that at a certain point in time regardless of manipulation of the data for optimum results, civilisation on planet earth always started crashing irretreivably into chaos.
Want to know when that time is
Between 2010 and 2015 |
This report also predicted that the world population would hit 7 billion by 2000, that there would be food riots by then in the industrialized west and that the price of many key raw materials would spiral out of control. The reality is that every single prediction in the Club of Rome's report has turned out to have missed the mark.
http://www.overpopulation.com/faq/N..._to_growth.html
It can be fun to be chicken little for a while yelling the sky is falling, but after a while people notice that it's not.
Just do a google search on Club of Rome, virtually every webhit will be a treatise trying to explain why they got things so wrong.
Phil |
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all this makes me want to stop and smell the flowers ... and then smoke'm
happier trails guys |
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| remp |
Haldor
Everyone tries to disprove unpalletable facts especially if they have a vested interest but some predictions are inescapable
(1) World population is rising at an exponential rate
(2) Comodity prices are rising
(3) Fresh water resources are coming under pressure
(4) Unemployment is increasing
(5) Crime and violence is increasing
(6) Global warming is now accepted as fact
(7) Amazon forests the lungs of the planet are being cut at an escalating rate.
Don't you think that with an exponentially increasing population all consuming food and water and electricity and housing that sooner or later every resource will be under serious pressure..
Sticking ones head in the sand and not looking at the real problems is just delaying the inevitable.
We are now looking at the end game. Humans will have to be much smarter than so far demonstrated to survive. |
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Remp,
I hate to say so but from my point of view:
| quote: | | (1) World population is rising at an exponential rate |
War keeps this in balance.Sad,but true.
It is also an economical necessity.
(I realize this is going to cause a bit of a stir.)
2.True.
And unfortunately salaries are not rising proportionately,making for more and more poor people.
However the market dictates pricing ,so sooner or later this should collapse.
| quote: | | (3) Fresh water resources are coming under pressure |
Well,yes and we're already paying the price for the 60/70's industrial pollution.Even tab water contains way too much oestrogen due to women taking the pill rendering men infertile.(How handy considering 1.)
4.True,the economically ideal unemployment rate is ~13%.
5.As usual when 1 thru 4 are in trouble.
6.At last.Hope it's not too late.
| quote: | | (7) Amazon forests the lungs of the planet are being cut at an escalating rate. |
Not so long ago I saw a very alarming documentary on National Geographic channel explaining that the Amozone Forest does not really function as a pair of lungs.It could release an alarming amount of CO2.
Still is still under study though.
Fact is that nature always strikes back.
For the last five years we see phenomena taking place that were just not happening twenty years ago.
Deep sigh,:rolleyes: |
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| remp |
Hey guys I dont want to give the impression I am a pessimist. Far from it. To me everything is either a good opportunity or with a bit more work turns into something useful.
Its just that I see rightly or wrongy that earth, the place we live on is in trouble. I could be completely wrong about that and just around the corner is some kind of power supply that produces unlimited energy at very low cost with no polution. Unlikely but it could happen.
My contribution if thats the right word to improvement is on my web site but it fair to say virtually nobody takes it seriously. Not in our Governments anyway.
Just as an example I live in a small town 60 kms from our largest city Auckland. 25 years ago everyone in my town was employed locally. Last few years that employment has gone as firms relocate to Auckland to get more business. That means all the people wanting a job have to commute to Auckland. Then they find the commuting too much so they shift to Auckland. But many more wealthy people in Auckland get tired of the city so they move out to my town. They push the housing prices up which increases the rateable values so I end up paying a lot more in rates. Not only that but these wealthy people demand the council provide more housing land so all the valuable cropping land inside the borough will eventually be taken out of productive cropping for residential sections.
All the best land now has houses on it and is growing people instead of crops. |
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| fdegrove |
Remp,
This happens all over the globe IMO.
Read through your webpage last night,you do have some very valid points.
Maybe we should all go into politics and show them buggers a trick or two.
It won't happen and we all know it.
Don't loose faith,;) |
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| remp |
| Well the only sensible thing I have done is to order a 5000 litre water tank. Catch the rain off the roof. |
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| fdegrove |
Remp,
Water is no problem here.
Quality water may be sooner or later.
Hang in there,;) |
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| dorkus |
| i never thought i would say it, and i hate to admit it, but i kinda do. :D |
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| Peter Daniel |
| As long as you don't say you miss Groman, you should be OK.;) |
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| dorkus |
| who's groman? i forgot. was he the big dork who always ****ed on everyone? |
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| fdegrove |
| quote: | | who's groman? i forgot. was he the big dork who always ****ed on everyone? |
In other words: the average forum customer?:D
Shall I repost my "Manneken Pis" pixes?
Cheers and let's not tempt the devil,;) |
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| dorkus |
| hehe yes, i admit i have ****ed on an idea or two in my time... a little modesty would probably suit many of us including myself. :p |
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| Fred Dieckmann |
Yep me too:spin: I hear he is working with John Iverson, both of them under assumed names of course.
Trying to grow, man!
Fred |
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| dorkus |
| hey fred who are you by the way? you sound kinda like harry but not really. :p i was gone from this board for several weeks, i come back, and everything has gone upside down - no harry, odd harry imposters, accusations of "you're harry!!!", moderators, banned members, and random people i've never heard of dishing out harry-esque advice... :bigeyes: |
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| fdegrove |
And next month:
And I thought it was a Belgian tradition! |
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| zeno |
| quote: | Originally posted by remp
fdegrove
Our climate is killing me.
What is wrong with your climate. ? |
Half of the ime it is raining and the other half, the sun doesn't shine :bawling:
I've been to NZ twice already, once in 1999, once last year. I simply love it. i suppose you are right and everything you mention on your site is (sadly enough) very true. But at the same time, people in NZ still seem to have a certain quality, one very seldom finds in other parts of the wolrd.
Please, try to preserve at least that.
Than I will be down under again in a couple of years :cool:
Btw, where in NZ do you live, mate ? |
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| remp |
In Pukekohe about 60 km South of our largest city Auckland.
Population of Pukekohe PUK E KO HE is 10,000 or so. Used to be a farming service town but has changed into a wealthy/elderly peoples dormitary. Lot of people now run their business from home on the internet so we have a good mixture. Sort of town where you know most of them and nearly everyone is related to someone in the next street. But its all changing. Younger people leaving to live in Auckland to be close to employment opportunities. City people coming here for the lifestyle.
Sir Edmund Hillary first man to climb mount Everest came from Pukekohe. He was a bee keeper for many years.
Pukekohe climate all the upper half of the north island is warm and humid for half a year. We have plentiful rain and nearly frosts in winter. From now on Late spring until mid/late autumn we look forward to sunshine most days. January February March extra good nearly no wind. Renown area for growing tomatoes potatoes onions squash kiwifruit strawberries cauliflower cabbage silverbeet lettuce capsicums. Huge overseas business in flowers. All volcanic land. In some parts soil is 10 feet deep.
Good place to live. |
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| fdegrove |
Hi Remp,
Thnx for the info.
Cherio,;) |
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| SoundOff |
remp.
Just shut up about how great NZ is, will ya? It makes me want to go back! :bawling:
Seriously, I've been in Sydney for nearly two years, here to make some money because of the lack of decent engineering jobs in NZ. I'll be back though... there's an acre tucked under the hills NW of Christchurch with an old farmhouse and plenty of room to build.
As a relocated Pom (Brit to you non-Australasian types) one thing I noticed in NZ was that it is pretty easy to make a living without a full-time job. Businesses are happy to employ people on a relatively casual basis, so you can be a jobbing engineer/programmer/whatever and a sheep farmer/potato grower.. etc. The downside is that everybody is trying to undercut everybody else, so a bare living is all you make.
When I left the UK in 1993 I was working in industrial electronics, being charged out by my employer at 45 pounds/hr. I got a job in Christchurch doing almost exactly the same work with slightly better pay and perks (on an exchange rate basis) being charged out at NZ$58/hr - about 25 pounds at that pont. NZ tradesmen & professionals have been charging whatever the customers offered instead of sticking to what the job is worth. Such is corporatism and 'free trade'.
Still - I'll be back!
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| remp |
SoundOff
Oh New Zealand is a really nice place let me spend several hours telling you about the warm clear beaches with the beautiful white sand and the forests and the.........
Is that a moderator I hear.
Yes its not a bad place by and large but of course the grass always looks greener somewhere else.
Personally I like Brisbane. Lot of Kiwi's there.
On our last visit to Brisbane we went to the art Gallery to look at the nudes oops I mean the paintings. As we went in we noticed there was a bicycle at the front door minus the front wheel.
While ambling around looking at the nudes oops sorry painting we noticed this fellow carrying a bicycle front wheel. I asked him why. To stop it getting stolen. |
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| dorkus |
| quote: | Originally posted by remp
While ambling around looking at the nudes oops sorry painting we noticed this fellow carrying a bicycle front wheel. I asked him why. To stop it getting stolen. |
over here, a parked bike is just a frame basically... people take both wheels, seat and post with them. even then stupid things like reflectors and pedals still get stolen. |
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| Bakmeel |
In Amsterdam you can find bikes parked in the top of a tree, half-way submerged in a canal, on the outside of a bridge, anywhere... And about 40% of them are just wrecks without an owner.. The other 60% are wrecks that can still ride, and thus can be stolen by junks.... :S
Amsterdam is such a lovely town... :) ;) |
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| Ken L |
I was born and have lived the bulk of my life in Greenville, SC.
As a child and then later as a teenager, we never locked our doors - nor did any of our neighbors. I never even had a key to the house, because it was never locked.
For about five years now I have had a monitored alarm system.
Progress!
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| fdegrove |
Hi Bouke,
Good thing you live in Enschede then?;)
It's a bleeding pain,I teel you that much.
A bike is not the end of the world but wait till it happens to cars as well.
Anyone dare to accompany me to Brazil?
I may need some body guards?
Wanna hear some stories about my last trips over?:mad:
Sigh....:bawling: |
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| Bakmeel |
fdegrove,
Well, Enschede is a student city, because of the University here. There is an overkill on bicycles here... But the main advantage is that there are less junks here :).
You should try Kenia instead! You won't survive without living within guarded concrete walls... Every white man is assumed to be an affiliate with the Shell company, which kindof didn't do much good there but poison the corrupt government... :(
I don't blame them though... It's the western world that still leech out the third world countries...
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| fdegrove |
Hi Bouke,
Here is where I disagree:
| quote: | | I don't blame them though... It's the western world that still leech out the third world countries... |
In my book there is no excuse for theft.
I tend to agree that multinationals like the one you mention exploit the entire population,on the other hand they also bring some sort of welfare by their mere presence.
When travelling I always try to blend in as much as possible: no luxury,no jewels,no camera,not even a watch.
When you make an effort to speak the local language and mix with the locals they will quite often give you free advise,even protect you.
I hear Nigeria is really awfull on fraud,corruption and crime in general.
I've seen some of their scams myself and some of them are at a multi billion dollar level.
It ain't pretty.;) |
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| remp |
| One of those countries have been running a scam for a number of years. They send you a really flash looking letter saying you have won first prize of a million dollars in an "International lottery" and would you please send them your bank account number and a specimen signature so they can deposit the one million dollars into your account. |
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| fdegrove |
Hi,
At the time I still had my own company I received a pile of very official looking letters from ex-ministers or such from Nigeria gently explaining they had made a couple of million USD overcharging an oil project for the government.
They then went on that they couldn't get it out of the country without our help and if we would be so kind as to give our bankaccount number so they could have it wired over to us.
Then they would come over later to pick it up and we would receive the ridiculously generous amount of 40% on the total sum.
Yeah!Right.
Guess what happened to the idiots supplying their accounts...
Oh well,;) |
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| Jocko Homo |
| quote: | | I have been holding back on even mentioning him. He deserves the SinBin for a long time. I just hope the American people get off their butts and give him a good spanking on Tuesday. |
You may not want to quit your day job to become a political pundit.
Oh, why not. You would have just as good a chance of being right as the ones we already have.
:smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:
Jocko |
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| mrfeedback |
| I have heard of at least one person who did give their details to one of these 'Nigerian Scams', and guess what ? - they got scammed. |
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| Fred Dieckmann |
Who? Harry Haller?
Fred |
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| mrfeedback |
| Who the hell is Harry Haller? |
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| UrSv |
It may sound like a joke but I do actually know (and it is NOT a friend) a person that not only fell for the Nigerian scam but he also went down there to negotiate and was seized and then released after negotiations by the CEO of the very large company he worked for. Apparently a ransom was involved.
When he came back he sent a postcard to his colleagues saying that "The eagle has landed" and when he first showed up in the office he gave everybody a very famous Swedish cake which is essentially a chocolate ball with sugar or coconut on the outside. This cake is incidently called (and I am not being rasist here at all - it is actually just a name) "negro balls"...
Wow, is that bright....
/UrSv |
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| Jocko Homo |
Or is that greedy?
The best part of those scams is the really bad grammar they use in their letters. Makes for lots of free entertainment.
Jocko |
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| Fred Dieckmann |
I’m not Harry, My name is Julie.
Harry left you years ago.
My eyes are not blue, but mine won’t leave you
‘Till the sunlight has touched your face. |
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| fdegrove |
Hi guys,
| quote: | | It may sound like a joke but I do actually know (and it is NOT a friend) a person that not only fell for the Nigerian scam but he also went down there to negotiate and was seized and then released after negotiations by the CEO of the very large company he worked for. Apparently a ransom was involved. |
Indeed that was often one of their suggestions.
Them being Nigerian citizens they were bound by law and couldn't leave the country with such vast sums of cash.
So they invited you over to do the job for them.
And people actually fell for that??
In Belgium the government put out a warning to the public ,so I can imagine there must have been more than just a single complaint.
Ubelievable.:rolleyes:
Cheers,;) |
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| peranders |
| quote: | Originally posted by fdegrove
Guess what happened to the idiots supplying their accounts...
Oh well,;) |
Since this thread already is degenerated, can anyone explain this african scam because I don't get it completely. I get spam from Africa (or about Africa) all the time.
What was the idea behind the scam? |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jocko Homo
You may not want to quit your day job to become a political pundit.
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Results are in and i got the opposite of my wish... sigh
I don't wanr to be politics anything.
Politics -- "Pol" Latin for "many, "tics" as in "bloodsucking creatures"
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| fdegrove |
Per,
| quote: | | What was the idea behind the scam? |
Basically the idea was to get the account numbers,gain access (dont know how) and then transfer whatever was there to an account of their own.
Naturally they approach the smaller companies for that and send their letters directly to the MD.
Cheers,;) |
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| Jakeh |
The usual one is the advance fee fraud - "I'm a slightly crooked public official and I can lay my hands on $9000 billion, but I can't use it unless I get it out of the country and that going to cost me $5000, if you let me use your bank account to transfer the money into I'll let you have 25%, but I'll need the $5000 to get the money out to you". Mug gives them $5k, no money but further calls "more problems, nearly got it out, but have to bribe X which I didn't foresee, whole deal will fall apart unless I can get another $10k, if you won't do it I'll have to go with Mug B who has said he will". Mug hands over more cash, repeat ad nauseam until mug realises he's a skint mug. The fact that the deal was said to be crooked in the first place means that skint mug generally is too scared/embarassed to report it to anyone.
[edit -whoops, thoroughly explained by Frank a page ago]
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| fdegrove |
Hi,
| quote: | | "I'm a slightly crooked public official and I can lay my hands on $9000 billion, but I can't use it unless I get it out of the country and that going to cost me $5000, if you let me use your bank account to transfer the money into I'll let you have 25%, but I'll need the $5000 to get the money out |
Seems you kept a copy of one of those letters!
This is almost literally how a couple of these started.
Cheers,;) |
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