| xplod1236 |
Please share the things (audio related) that you see out in the world that you can't stand, or things that you used to do, but now you hate to do.
Something that I used to do was listen to music with the bass turned up all the way, and the treble turned down. I couldn't really hear the music, so I had to turn it up. That way, I got tons of bass. Now I can't stand it.
Another thing I hate is when people listen to music in their car with the stock head unit turned up all the way. The only thing they get is distortion instead of music. I have no idea how people can listen to that. |
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| ACD |
Peoples with earplugs at a concert ;)
WHAAAAAAAAAAAT ???? :D |
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| cocolino |
Concerts where You need to wear earplugs :D
WHAAAAAAAAAAAT ???? ;) |
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| maxlorenz |
| quote: | | Peoples with earplugs at a concert |
...and people that cough at concerts :mad: If you are sick stay at home!
Other thing that I hate is when you plan a series of mods to your gear and you have to wait for burn-in time to pass :mad:
Ah! and I hate the present ringing at my DAC :mad: :mad: :mad:
Very cool this cathartic thread :D
I never went to a group therapy ;)
I hope all of you feel better after throwing it away!
I do.
regards
M |
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| johnnyx |
| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
...and people that cough at concerts :mad: If you are sick stay at home!
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Then I hate being ill just when a great concert is happening.
:bawling:
I saw Led Zeppelin when I had the 'flu. I couldn't appreciate it fully, but I wasn't going to miss it. |
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| Cal Weldon |
| People who want to talk when I have invited them over specifically to listen to a few pieces. |
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| chipco3434 |
People who wave their hands in front of me whilst at a concert. People who feel obliged to stand for every song.
Knock of the BS, sit down and shut up.
I feel better.
One more thing. People who drive slow in the left lane. It's not your lane, it's not my lane, it's the FAST LANE. Get it? |
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| Cal Weldon |
| quote: | Originally posted by chipco3434
I feel better. |
That's good, sometimes a rant is for the best.
| quote: | | [i] it's the FAST LANE [/B] |
AKA: The passing lane |
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| Sch3mat1c |
Hum....
1. People who think wire sounds different. Prove it all-darned-ready! Oops...you can't. Nevermind.
2. People who think resistors have a sound.
2a. People who think resistors sound different backwards.
2b. People who think resistors sound best using two antiparallel.
3. People who think capacitors have a sound. (Face it, given a good tolerance and low ESR and ESL, it ain't gonna happen.)
3a. People who think capacitors have different distortion values as coupling caps.
4. Other ignorance in general. Stupidity I don't mind, because that can be cured by learning. True ignorance, the will to refuse any and all fact, is utterly dispicable.
Hm, I should've put #4 first... the others really are just corollaries of it.
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| minitruck_freq |
| people who drive around in the rain with their windows down and their stock stereo screaming. :rolleyes: |
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| SY |
| quote: | Originally posted by ACD
Peoples with earplugs at a concert ;)
WHAAAAAAAAAAAT ???? :D |
I did that for a country and western pop concert my wife dragged me to. Brought a book, too. Believe me, I had a better time that way.
In retrospect, if I had worn earplugs to a few of the Who and ELP concerts of my youth, I might still be able to hear 16kHz. |
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| rabbitz |
| quote: | Originally posted by chipco3434
One more thing. People who drive slow in the left lane. It's not your lane, it's not my lane, it's the FAST LANE. Get it? |
.... unless you live in Australia where it's cool to drive slow in the left lane. |
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| Schaef |
First, to the comment about ear plugs at concerts, I found that sometimes it actually allows me to hear the music BETTER! How? By cutting the high-end thrash that's echoing around the venue, and the echos in general, thus allowing a cleaner sound.
As to what annoys me? Try the idiots that have the kickers in their cars cranked so loud I hear them a half a block away! Apparently I have a sensitivity to certain low frequencies, and some of them literally and physically hurt my ears to hear. Not to mention the "wonderful" rattle of their trunk that must sound so great in the car!
People who claim MP3's are "Perfect Digital Copies" also annoy the **** out of me!! But, then again, if they can't hear the difference, shouldn't we envy them? They don't feel obliged to spend thousands of dollars or hours on trying to achieve the perfect sound!
And don't even get me started on....
I feel better now... |
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| TwoSpoons |
1/ the sound of MP3's
2/ ppl who try to sell a wooden knob for $400
3/ ppl who buy said knob and claim I must be deaf because I can't tell the difference.
4/ Overpriced audiophile BS in general.
5/ ppl who drive slow in the righthand lane ( I live in NZ!) |
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| wes-ninja250 |
Over use of compression on commercial CDs.
Almost makes building an audiophile-grade amplifier pointless.
Wes |
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| Flatlander |
1) People who spend $400 on a power cable and insist the reason it doesn't sound right yet is that it needs to burn in.
2) People who build a new speaker and are not satisfied with the sound and haven't given it time to break in.
3) People who drive thru a residential area with the stereo rattling windows in every house after MIDNIGHT.
4) I echo the disgust with the over compression on some CDs.
5) "Bands" that use a synthesizer drum and bass track rather than hiring studio musicians.
Yeah, I feel better, now! |
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| maxlorenz |
| quote: | | 1. People who think wire sounds different. Prove it all-darned-ready! Oops...you can't. Nevermind. |
| quote: | | . People who think resistors have a sound. |
| quote: | | People who think capacitors have a sound. (Face it, given a good tolerance and low ESR and ESL, it ain't gonna happen.) |
Come on! You don't hate us, we are nice people also :angel:
Maybe you get tired or bored with us...
Two reasons to feel good about your point of view:
1) You think you're right (I'm not saying the contrary :) ) and that's a good thing. S******* the rest!
2) If you really don't hear differences then it's a blessing :D
You save big money and time experimenting with diverse options.
I hope this is another success from Dr Max :D
I insist: very therapeutic thread.
Sincerely yours
Maxlorenz |
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| dhaen |
| :censored: whingers! |
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| Luke |
| how agressive shop sales assistants are getting..... |
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| Netlist |
Mrs.: Hello, my TV set just broke…I’m I speaking to the technician?
Salesman: Good afternoon madam, yes this is the technician speaking…
Mrs.: I was just looking at my favorite soap and suddenly the sound was gone..
Salesman: Hmm…the sound you say…how old is that TV set?
Mrs.: No idea Mr….Alfred………AAAAAlfred…how old is our TV?
Alfred: (Diving into the drawer to find some old papers of the set): Don’t know…must be 5 or 6 years by now….
Mrs.: 5 or 6 years he says…
Salesman: Then, miss, it must be your picture tube... I know them, they are famous for that…believe me, we got that problem at least once a week.
Mrs.: Oooohhh…are you sure? I recon it can’t be fixed then. What’s the price of a new television these days?
Salesman: We’ve got a splendid looking flat screen over here, and when you bring the old TV in we give you a marvelous discount…
Mrs.: I knew you were the man…can we come and have a look this afternoon….
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| derf |
1. People that like to pump up the distortion
2. People that believe speakers/capacitors/wires etc break-in
3. People that can't see mp3 for the useful invention it is (no it won't sound exactly like your cd copy, but at 1/6 of the size, it can get very close) |
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| wes-ninja250 |
Hey, derf -- Bad news -- caps DO break-in.
Good news? It takes a fraction of a second.
Wes |
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| Shoebacca |
Movie soundtracks - especially in the average home theatre.
Bowel shaking, ear aching, single note bass with no good reason. It has it's place, but really I don't need to hear t-rex footsteps during a car chase |
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| Joules |
1) People that listen to cheep radios turnd up so loud that the pour little thing is horribly overdriven and is at least 50% distortion and don't notice or think it's really "KICKEN'!"
2) When someone has to, copy as a quote, a long post, sometimes with pictures, just to make a two word responce!!! ...Talk about bogging down a perfectley good thread!
3) The poeple that are greatest self proclaimed experts with the least amount of first hand experience. I have done multitudes of test for my self and I know for a FACT that wires, capacitors and resistors do make a difference, in the right system.
Thanks I feel better now :cannotbe: |
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| Cal Weldon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joules
2) When someone has to, copy as a quote, a long post, sometimes with pictures, just to make a two word responce!!! ...Talk about bogging down a perfectley good thread! |
I was thinking just that.
| quote: | | [i]Thanks I feel better now :cannotbe: [/B] |
Me too. |
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| tlf9999 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joules
1) People that listen to cheep radios turnd up so loud that the pour little thing is horribly overdriven and is at least 50% distortion and don't notice or think it's really "KICKEN'!" |
It depends. to some people, what's important is the message out of the radio, not distortion of the message. |
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| barn |
ok - your hi-fi is 10 plus years old and you think its time to upgrade / renew. You start buying magazines, spend $ and time studying, talk to anyone you know with any interest in music , get on the net and read reviews, search forums and finaly feel able to have a semi inteligent conversation with a decent hi-fi salesman.
You spend a few hours in that shop then move on to another and another etc. spend months deliberating, auditioning, take a few units home to try and finaly decide to buy a cd player.
You then go through the same learning curve again with all the other components over the next 2 years.
You also spend years building speakers, carefully trying to extract every bit of quality sound out of them.
After spending I dont know how many 1000s of $ one day it finaly happens - you sit back in lounge room listening utopia and think " I have done it at last and its a beautiful thing"
You turn to the wife and say - so, WHAT DO YOU THINK and she replies - mmmm I think it sounds a bit better. |
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| pinkmouse |
| quote: | Originally posted by tlf9999
It depends. to some people, what's important is the message out of the radio, not distortion of the message. |
Exactly, some people seem to forget we do this hobby to enjoy music, and a good tune is a good tune, regardless of medium. |
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| wintermute |
The fact that I spend way too much time deliberating over things that probably won't make any difference anyway ;)
The fact that a lot the good stuff isn't easily obtainable in Australia.
The fact that Parts express has a minimum order of $50 US and a minimum shipping charge of $33 US for international.
That I don't have enough room to have a full workshop.
That I don't have a lathe
That a lot of CD's are extremely poorly recorded
That it takes me forever to finish a project
People who sit on 80KM/h in the 100KM zone and speed up to 110 as soon as there is an overtaking lane.
that last one really irks me as I have to risk a fine and loss of a lot of points to get past them!!
ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Tony. |
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| tlf9999 |
| quote: | Originally posted by wintermute
That a lot of CD's are extremely poorly recorded |
it seems to be it is almost a fad to claim that many CDs are poorly recorded nowadays.
How many CDs can we name that are poorly recorded? How does that figure compare to the number of CDs produced a year? |
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| tlf9999 |
| quote: | Originally posted by barn
You turn to the wife and say - so, WHAT DO YOU THINK and she replies - mmmm I think it sounds a bit better. |
this should give us a lot of perspective on those "performance enhancements" every amp designer / manufacturer claims.
take this 24bit encoding for example. That sucker is capable of a theoretical headroom of 144db. Now, how many of your equipment can reproduce that kind of headroom? how many of us can hear that kind of headroom?
at 20hz, it is about 70db - good for a 12 bit encoding system. and some use the 120db (20bit) as the headroom, but anything above 90db (15big) may cause permanent hearing damage.
A lot of people in this group have engineering background. That unfortunately focuses us more on the geeky side of the equation: we spend time and money on more so on the number side, trying to get more power / performance out of devices without realizing that it doesn't make the least of a difference. |
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| wintermute |
| quote: | Originally posted by tlf9999
it seems to be it is almost a fad to claim that many CDs are poorly recorded nowadays.
How many CDs can we name that are poorly recorded? How does that figure compare to the number of CDs produced a year? |
Maybe it's my system and only some recordings sound good, due to others showing up deficiencies in the system, but I blame it on the recording ;)
I don't have a huge number of cd's but I'd say that the majority are not what I would call really good recordings quite a few are fair and some are quite bad (to my ears).... maybe I should have said CD's that aren't excelently recorded :)
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| MikeB |
| quote: | Originally posted by wes-ninja250
Over use of compression on commercial CDs.
Almost makes building an audiophile-grade amplifier pointless.
Wes |
That's a big YES !
Looks like a contest between studios who get the loudest CD without
obvious clipping...
The fact that these CDs sound completely lifeless and flat seems to be of no interest.
tlf9999, just to "name" some CDs, ALL new mainstream-CDs are recorded that way.
Even "audiophile" CDs tend to clip nowadays...
Mike |
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| tlf9999 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MikeB
tlf9999, just to "name" some CDs, ALL new mainstream-CDs are recorded that way. |
not sure what "that way" is, but to me, most CDs sound very good. Once in a while, I will run into a CD that doesn't sound as good on some songs but not quite as bad either (certainly beat most tapes).
I guess what constitute "good" or "bad" is quite subjective. |
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| derf |
| quote: | | A lot of people in this group have engineering background. That unfortunately focuses us more on the geeky side of the equation: we spend time and money on more so on the number side, trying to get more power / performance out of devices without realizing that it doesn't make the least of a difference. |
I'm sorry, but I find this to be total dribble.
Yes, there does come a point where things make less and less of an improvement, but aslong as people don't put the cart before the horse, this shouldn't be too much of a problem.
I'd rather have hi-fi ruled by engineering/science types, than snake oil pushing/stone placing/demagnatising types any day of the week.
| quote: | | not sure what "that way" is, but to me, most CDs sound very good. Once in a while, I will run into a CD that doesn't sound as good on some songs but not quite as bad either (certainly beat most tapes). |
Depends a lot on what you listen to, as to how rough a deal you'll get. A lot of rock/pop, even some jazz recordings totally disregard things learned by Blumlein and the like as early as the 30's(multi-track recording, anyone...) |
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| wintermute |
on the cd recording, I would call it "mashed toghether sound" where there doesn't appear to be any separation of instruments just a mess of sounds that it is hard to work out what is what.
One track I'm yet to form a final opinion on is "cold cold night" on White Stripes Elephant album... there is a huge amount of noise in the background, and I'm still thinking it must have been deliberately put in there because it is so obvious!! That is a completely different problem to my usual complaint though ;)
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| barn |
I guess like all things there are the good ,bad and the ugly - this includes audio engineers, lollipop makers and wire manufactures.
Most of us are good at a few things, mediocre at a few more and not particularly good at most. |
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| dsavitsk |
| quote: | Originally posted by wintermute
on the cd recording, I would call it "mashed toghether sound" where there doesn't appear to be any separation of instruments just a mess of sounds that it is hard to work out what is what. |
People that don't appreciate the recording genius of Phil Spector. ;) |
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| philipbarrett |
| quote: | Originally posted by MikeB
Looks like a contest between studios who get the loudest CD without
obvious clipping...
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Pretty close - it's actually the mastering labs who can do the most damage. It involves the "normalization" of a track which pushes all the peaks to a preset value basically eliminating most of the natural dynamics. The idea is that it will sound louder on the radio, which is scary since the processors used by radio stations basically apply the same techniques all over again!
You spend you're hard earned money & time to build a system with over 100db of dynamic range & then play music with perhaps 6db of dynamics. Ironic isn't it.
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| MikeB |
| quote: | Originally posted by philipbarrett
You spend you're hard earned money & time to build a system with over 100db of dynamic range & then play music with perhaps 6db of dynamics. Ironic isn't it.
PB |
Yes, it simply drives me sad ! :sad:
Mike |
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| SmarmyDog |
I really hate those stupid little plastic containers that Yoplait uses for their yogurt. They are absolutely user-hostile and quite wasteful!
-Feeling better now, thanks! |
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| Cal Weldon |
| I hate the fact my jeans don't fit like they used to. |
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| MikeB |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cal Weldon
I hate the fact my jeans don't fit like they used to. |
Yes, that's a strange thing, mine recently also stopped to fit...
There must be something in the water shrinking these ! :D
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| maxlorenz |
| quote: | | The fact that these CDs sound completely lifeless and flat seems to be of no interest. |
| quote: | | it's actually the mastering labs who can do the most damage. It involves the "normalization" of a track which pushes all the peaks to a preset value basically eliminating most of the natural dynamics |
Yes, poorly recorded CD's are something we hate :mad:
I have 4 children, so no analog source for a while.
I have discovered that CD's that I like the best, I mean with wich I can make an easier emotional contact, are old classical music records from the 50's and 60's (ADD) remastered with 20 or 24 bit technique. In spite of background noise I feel more "human" sound. Once I read a paper (forgot where) in wich the author stated that the best records in that regard were those in wich the mic preamp was a good tube one and that it is really easy to guess wich one was recorded in this manner. I also like "living stereo" CD collection sound wich was recorded with passive mic preamp. No compression there.
Just my humble opinion.
Regards
M |
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| PauSim |
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| tlf9999 |
| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
the author stated that the best records in that regard were those in wich the mic preamp was a good tube one and that it is really easy to guess wich one was recorded in this manner. |
anyone can make a claim. only those who can prove their claims add to our collective understanding. |
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| wintermute |
| quote: | Originally posted by tlf9999
anyone can make a claim. only those who can prove their claims add to our collective understanding. |
I would have thought that anything that provokes us into thinking and on a road of self discovery also adds to our collective understanding (provided we share our findings). Just because there are no hard facts doesn't mean that it can't help improve knowledge.
If every scientist said "hogwash there’s no proof" every time someone came up with a new hypothesis then we would still be in the dark ages! It is things that we don't understand, and then try to understand that IMO truly teach us things :)
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| maxlorenz |
Thanks Tony :)
Hey, I don't want to throw mud into the thread. I only wanted to share this interesting point of view.
As you say, mankind ascent is produced (if ever) thanks to people who are brave enough to think differently. :angel:
Cheers
Mauricio
PS: I love this forum and I love each of you :hbeat:
Oops! maybe I'm reading to much DestroyerX' posts :D |
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| wintermute |
| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
PS: I love this forum and I love each of you :hbeat:
Oops! maybe I'm reading to much DestroyerX' posts :D |
LOL that made my day :)
Tony. |
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| maxlorenz |
You're welcome :D
I allways had shame to ask: what does LOL mean?
Regards
M |
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| wintermute |
LOL = Laugh out Loud, ROFL = Roll on Floor Laughing. I'm still smiling :) LMAO = laughing my *** off
Tony. |
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| philipbarrett |
| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
I have discovered that CD's that I like the best, I mean with wich I can make an easier emotional contact, are old classical music records from the 50's and 60's (ADD) remastered with 20 or 24 bit technique.
M |
The original vinyl albums from that period go to Japanese collectors for outrageous sums too. Don't over look the jazz recordings from the same period.
There are probably no absolute reasons for the technical quality, however, equipment at that time was pretty noisy so engineers tried to avoid convaluted signal paths including equalizers & compressors. Therefore microphone selection & placement was critical and a pre-eminent factor in determining the sound. "Fix-it-in-the-mix" was not a viable option at the time, the take had to be right. In those days, before convincing artificial reverbs, these studios also had to have incredible natural recording spaces, the likes of which (due in part to construction & real estate costs) barely exist today.
However, a large number of contemporary recordings are still tracked and mixed to analog tape (1/2" being the prefered 2 track format) so it's not nessercerily a digital path/analog path thing. |
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| maxlorenz |
Thanks Tony (is it a Fractal structure in your pick?)...
and philipbarrett.
I have some of Verve's CD reissues from Ella, Ella and Louis, Stan Getz. They are really good sounding.
Fewer stages in the path shall be, then ;)
Good night, from rainy South South America (and we're on springtime :xeye: )
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| skyraider |
to add to the list:
the way 'jazz at the pawnshop' played so well on vinyl but absolutely craps in cd |
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| wintermute |
| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
Thanks Tony (is it a Fractal structure in your pick?)...
I have some of Verve's CD reissues from Ella, Ella and Louis, Stan Getz. They are really good sounding.
M |
Yes it is a fractal (from the mandelbrot set). It's a DIY one too ;) I wrote the program to generate it....
I have the verve remastered 24bit 96Khz "Ella and Louis" cd. It is one of the best sounding cd's I've heard, it blew me away when I heard it, I was expecting that due to the age of the recording it would be nothing special, man was I wrong!, absolutely magic :)
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| philipbarrett |
| quote: | Originally posted by wintermute
I have the verve remastered 24bit 96Khz "Ella and Louis" cd. It is one of the best sounding cd's I've heard, it blew me away when I heard it,
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Also check out Verve's remastered Miles Davis series and the superb reissues of the Ruday Van Gelder Blue Note recordings. Rudy of course, recorded the albums in his Hackensack, NJ living room with home built equipment. In an interview (http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=1116) he claims to be remastering the CDs to sound as close to the vinyl as possible!
As an engineer myself, it's humbling to listen to some of these recordings, made under such "primitive" conditions and realize I would be hard pressed today to duplicate the quality. |
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| Circlotron |
| Cars with three names :rolleyes: e.g. Suzuki Swift Cino when there isn't even another model that it needs to differentiate itself from. I even saw something the other day with *four* names. It looked like it needed to be written like a DOS pathname. |
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| wintermute |
Thanks Phillip, I'll keep my eye out for them :)
Tony. |
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| MrUnsocial |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sch3mat1c
Hum....
4. Other ignorance in general. Stupidity I don't mind, because that can be cured by learning. True ignorance, the will to refuse any and all fact, is utterly dispicable.
Hm, I should've put #4 first... the others really are just corollaries of it.
Tim |
People who confuse ignorance with stupidity ...
ignorance: the quality or state of being ignorant.
ignorant: 1 a : destitute of knowledge
stupidity: 1 : the quality or state of being stupid
stupid: 3 : marked by or resulting from dullness or unintelligent thinking : SENSELESS *a stupid refusal to be realistic W.F.Hambly* |
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| tlf9999 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Circlotron
Cars with three names :rolleyes: e.g. Suzuki Swift Cino when there isn't even another model that it needs to differentiate itself from. |
Cino might just be a trim level or a body configuration within the Swift line-up, you know, the usual LX/LE/DX/SE thing.
I thought the europeans use more "names" for trim designations than the US / Asian manufacturers. |
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| maxlorenz |
| quote: | | I have the verve remastered 24bit 96Khz "Ella and Louis" cd. It is one of the best sounding cd's I've heard, it blew me away when I heard it |
| quote: | | Also check out Verve's remastered Miles Davis series |
Yeah! and Mingus!
I only listen to dead's people music :D
I'm glad that some share my tastes.
How can one listen to Krall or the other one whose name escapes me after listening to Ella's almost perfect emision/voice/timbre/tonal accuracy/honesty/musicianship.
I know for shure that the spirits of these great musicians rejoice when we remember them :angel:
Ah! back to the topic:
I hate ringing phones, portable or fixed :mad:
I don't mind silent phones, but ringing ones are to be destroyed :devilr:
And I also hate the reaction that this ringing generates in the feminin members of my family :D some cry, some run, some let the milk fall... I hope nothing like this happens chez vous.
Ciao
M |
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| xplod1236 |
when people type
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hit enter every so
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Or, even worse,
when people want
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| JoeBob |
People who hate me for wearing earplugs at concerts. I wear them to clubs to, I bet a lot of people hate that ;)
Gas prices, I guess I'll never get to do that road trip to mexico now... |
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| dnsey |
| quote: | | And I also hate the reaction that this ringing generates in the feminin members of my family |
In fact the way that so many people are slaves to their phones!
A phone is a useful tool, but if I'm busy when it rings, I let it carry on: the answering service will get it anyay, and if the caller won't leave a message, it can't have been that important. |
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| destroyer X |
I hate those ones that do not concentrate.
regards,
Carlos |
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| MikeB |
Women stating that they never fart... So, why aren't they all baloons ?
Mike |
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| SteveA |
1-1 kW car stereo sytems playing their one note sound systems with their windows down.
2-1 kW car stereo sytems playing their one note sound systems with their windows up.
Steve |
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| BobEllis |
nattering nabobs of negativity :clown:
Life is too short to worry about stuff that bugs you. I'm just happy to be able to walk and use my hands after a spinal cord injury gave me a stretch when i couldn't. I am too busy enjoying my wife, kids, DIY projects and music. Does much else really matter enough to let it bring you down? |
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| phase_accurate |
| quote: | | Does much else really matter enough to let it bring you down? |
No, but ranting about it makes one feel better !!! :D :D :devilr:
Regards
Charles |
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| BobEllis |
| OK, I'll give you that one. To the extent you can rant and forget, it probably does help. ;) |
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| SteveA |
| quote: | Originally posted by BobEllis
nattering nabobs of negativity :clown:
Life is too short to worry about stuff that bugs you. I'm just happy to be able to walk and use my hands after a spinal cord injury gave me a stretch when i couldn't. I am too busy enjoying my wife, kids, DIY projects and music. Does much else really matter enough to let it bring you down? |
How true. As a golfing buddy of mine says: "The sky is blue, the grass is green and I am on top of it. It doesn't get any better than that"
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| carlosfm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Luke
how agressive shop sales assistants are getting..... |
And how ignorant s:censored:ns on a b...
They sell hi-fi today, tomorrow they sell socks.
I feel better now.
Great thread. :cloud9: |
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| carlosfm |
| quote: | Originally posted by barn
You turn to the wife and say - so, WHAT DO YOU THINK and she replies - mmmm I think it sounds a bit better. |
Hey, that doesn't work, she's just being kind.
What can mean something is when you are listening to some music, something that she knows, and she says: "Hey! It sounds better..."
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| carlosfm |
| quote: | Originally posted by MikeB
Looks like a contest between studios who get the loudest CD without
obvious clipping...
The fact that these CDs sound completely lifeless and flat seems to be of no interest. |
Not really a contest, it's intentional.
Some bright minds made a study and found out that most people only listen to music on their cars, on the way to work.
So, for obvious reasons (ambient noise), commercial CDs have heavy dynamics compression and normalization.
The same happens with most FM stations, for the same reasons.
Some studios make test CDRs and go for a ride in a car to test the compression, before settling on the final mastering. :bawling:
This mostly (but not only) affects most 'commercial' music (pop, etc.).
If you join this type of artifacts with a heavy sense of 'digitalitis' on some recordings, some discs really sound like :whacko:.
Examples?
Anything from Coldplay, for instance. |
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| Jim Karr |
Now back in the Sixties when we were just whelps, and all the stations we listened to were AM, most of the music on the air originated from 45's.
In order to make them sound brighter, and better on your car radio, the turntables would be run at a higher speed than 45 rpm.
Fidelity? Hah! |
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| dnsey |
I remember reading a review on the very first car CD players. The reviewer noted the problem with dynamics and ambient noise, and anticipated that production players would have switchable compression - the sensible approach. At the time, it was unthinkable that this new 'hi-fi' medium would carry deliberately distorted recordings.
Little did they guess... |
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| mpmarino |
I hate 'most' compact disks that are remastered. I despise greatest hits CDs that the cuts are remastered. I'll take background noise etc. over the phony thud thud excuse for bass on a lot of the remasterings.
I find myself buying old used music CDs on ebay a lot. OH, and I hate paying 20 bucks for a CD too!
| quote: | | I remember reading a review on the very first car CD players. The reviewer noted the problem with dynamics and ambient noise, and anticipated that production players would have switchable compression - the sensible approach. |
I remember those first Sonys..it was a great idea. Maybe if it took off todays recordings/remasterings would be different.... |
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| GringoAudio2 |
People who think Class D amps are worth pursuing as a hobby. Go to Walmart and pick one up. It won't be hard, it will only weigh 3lbs. YUK.
The bad recording, engineering and production of early Rolling Stones music. The pathetic 'stereo' on early Beatles albums.
All the people on DIYAudio who have better hearing than I do. |
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| JoeBob |
| I hate my favorite albums that have crappy recording and production, and many of them were recorded in the last ten years... |
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| phase_accurate |
People who think that there are audio technologies that are not worth being pursued as DIY. ;) :D
Regards
Charles |
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| GringoAudio2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by phase_accurate
People who think that there are audio technologies that are not worth being pursued as DIY. ;) :D
Regards
Charles |
I probably cannot tell the difference. I, like all of you just like building things and solving problems. Build on oh deaf (class D stands for 'Deaf') ones ;). |
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| carlosfm |
| I hate plastic arm turntables. :devily: |
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| JoeBob |
| I hate emo kids. I just had to throw that in, I REALLY hate emo kids. |
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| Emiel |
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| The Peasant |
I hate all of those jerks selling "snake oil" audio products, taking advantage of other people's honest quest for sonic satisfaction. They give all of us sincere audiophiles a bad name and encourage the further mediocratization of mainstream audio that began with the original release of digital/CD audio! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Take care,
Doug |
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| slowmotion |
Hmmm,
still thinking, but I can't really say I hate anything.
Must be something wrong with me :smash:
cheers ;) |
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| Cal Weldon |
Jan,
Nothing wrong with you my friend.
Cal |
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| jacco vermeulen |
| We'll change that ! |
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| carlosfm |
| quote: | Originally posted by jacco vermeulen
We'll change that ! |
We'll try to make this more caliente. :cool: |
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| cowanrg |
i hate people that make judgements about things based on preconceived notions, personal biases, and common schema.
try it personally, and then make a judgement. dont make assumptions based on limited knowledge. |
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| jacco vermeulen |
My turn !
I hate trousers with a buttondown fly:
it takes forever to get'm buttoned, and when i am in a hurry it takes too long to meet Willy.
But they are safer than zipper trousers.
Next time i'll tell you why i hate trousers with a zipper fly. |
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| mercator |
I hate those disposable chopsticks - the ones you have to break apart before using.
Oh yeah, and I hate slivers too.
/Dave |
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| SY |
| quote: | Originally posted by jacco vermeulen
Next time i'll tell you why i hate trousers with a zipper fly. |
Something About Mary? |
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| carlosfm |
| quote: | Originally posted by SY
Something About Mary? |
You must also incluse screams, because the original poster said "audio related" things. :D |
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| Sch3mat1c |
| quote: | Originally posted by slowmotion
still thinking, but I can't really say I hate anything.
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I hate people who don't hate anything?
:smash: :smash:
Tim |
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| cowanrg |
| quote: | Originally posted by xplod1236
It's a "subwoofer box," but it has 2 tweeters. |
wait, thats the ONLY complaint you had with it??? |
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| xplod1236 |
Of course not. I left it open for other people to complain.
Edit: ok, I'll complain some more.
1. plywood box
2. sealed with white caulk from the outside
3. "has insulation inside the box." For what? To keep the subs warm?
4. "Altogether it's pounding out a full 2,600 watts of music." He never mentions how much power the tweets handle. I guess they're just there for looks.
5. "It can be used as a part of your home or car stereo." I would love to have that [sarcasm]beautiful[/sarcasm] sub sittin in my living room. |
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| cowanrg |
the color is awful.
hehe.
i saw this in another forum (its been on there trying to be sold for months now) and its just hilarious what people will sell/buy.
i saw a guy locally that was selling a "ultra high end" home theater system for $100. it was just a home theater in a box. some people are clueless.
or, in fashion with the subject of this thread, i hate clueless people :) |
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| neutron7 |
people who whine about "drum boxes and synthesizers" rather than "real musicians"
actors that think they can sing
singers that think they can act
celebraties that are not dead.
people who spend $10,000 on "interconnects"
good on the people who sell them though. it helps the economy to seperate rich morons from their money so it can be used for something useful. |
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