| Circlotron |
We just had that National IQ Test thingy on tv Tuesday night. http://sites.ninemsn.com.au/minisit...rld/default.asp
and so have a lot of other places around the world already. DIY'ers are a cut above the average for sure. Did you do the test? How did you score? 133 for me. :)
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| AudioFreak |
| At least one of the regulation answers was incorrect pity they cant even get that much correct. ;) I got too many interuptions (so i missed answering a heap of questions) to get a realistic view but i think I should of scored around 125. |
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| mrfeedback |
Wots an IQ test ?.
Eric. |
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| AudioFreak |
| My sentiment exactly Eric. |
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| jackinnj |
Cut and paste from somewhere --
REDNECK ENGINEERING EXAM
> > > > Subject: FW: Redneck Engineering Exam
> > > >
> > > > This it titled: Redneck Engineering Exam.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Calculate the smallest limb diameter on a persimmon tree that will
> > > > support a 10 pound possum.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Which of the following cars will rust out the quickest when placed
> > on
> > > > blocks in your front yard? 66 Ford Fairlane, 69 Chevrolet Chevelle,
> 64
> > > > Pontiac GTO.
> > > >
> > > > 3. If your uncle builds a still that operates at a capacity of 20
> > gallons
> > > > of shine per hour, how many car radiators are necessary to condense
> the
> > > > product?
> > > >
> > > > 4. A pulpwood cutter has a chain saw that operates at 2700 rpm. The
> > > > density of the pine trees in a plot to be harvested is 470 per acre.
> > The
> > > > plot is 2.3 acres in size. The average tree diameter is 14 inches.
> How
> > > > many Budweiser Tallboys will it take to cut the trees?
> > > >
> > > > 5. If every old refrigerator in the state vented a charge of R-12
> > > > simultaneously, what would be the decrease in the ozone layer?
> > > >
> > > > 6. A front porch is constructed of 2x8 pine on 24-inch centers with a
> > > field
> > > > rock foundation. The span is 8 feet and the porch length is 16 feet.
> > The
> > > > porch floor is 1 inch rough sawn pine. When the porch collapses, how
> > many
> > > > hound dogs will be killed?
> > > >
> > > > 7. A man owns an Tennessee house and 3.7 acres of land in a hollow
> with
> > > an
> > > > average slope of 15%. The man has 5 children. Can each of the
> > children
> > > > place a mobile home on the man's land?
> > > >
> > > > 8. A 2-ton pulpwood truck is overloaded and proceeding 900 yards down
> a
> > > > steep grade on a secondary road at 45 mph. The brakes fail. Given
> the
> > > > average traffic loading of secondary roads, what are the chances that
> it
> > > > will strike a vehicle that has a muffler?
> > > >
> > > > 9. A coal mine operates a NFPA Class 1, Division 2 Hazardous Area.
> The
> > > > mine employs 120 miners per shift. A gas warning is issued at the
> > > beginning
> > > > of 3rd shift. How many cartons of unfiltered Camels will be smoked
> > during
> > > > the shift?
> > > >
> > > > 10. At a reduction in gene pool variability rate of 7.5% per
> > generation,
> > > > how long will it take a town that has been bypassed by the interstate
> to
> > > > breed a country-western singer? |
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| dice45 |
GP,
methinks such public tests are smoothed, they show fantastic sensitivity in the mid band but do refuse to let anyone raise over 140 or fall below 80. The latter to avoid riots, i presume :)
We had such a public test recently in Germany. I was visiting my parents (who once when i was still in school made such a test in private on me -- without telling me the results of course).
Pushed by mother, I participated and scored quite high in the public TV test. Then i asked myself what is wrong with the test and started to analyze the point scheme just to find that raising over 140 was practically impossible even with full score. Are there cases of IQ170 reported, am i right with this? And there was this ununderstandable age dependence rule.
Did not fit. Later my mother asked me what i found out. I told her and she said "the test is flawed!! I knew the test was flawed from your score, I could tell you how much but i won't."
There was another thing, the IQ test i made in private was measuring seconds i needed to answer. Accurately.
The public TV test recently gave me too much time, i had the answers within 25 to 75% of the available time and i did never get in a rush. Of course there were QQ could not answer at all. But i got no reward for the seconds i had the answer early. |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by dice45
(who once when i was still in school made such a test in private on me -- without telling me the results of course). |
IQ tests are too narrow to truly guage the scope of someone's intelligence. A word where i consider Tim Leary's definition to be a very valid one. Something like "how the person responds to their environment". This definition allows, for instance, that an Australian aborigine in his outback environ is way more inteligent than me there.
I only ever faced 1 IQ test. i was 8, and my mother never did tell me my score (years later she told me my score was over 135, but wouldn't tell me how much). I finished way ahead of everyone else. Hasn't helped me get rich...
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| promitheus |
I.Q. tests are not to be taken so seriously.
They are a very very general view of what intelligence is.
Real intelligence tests should be very long and have many subjects that are tested. And still they might be very far from finding the true IQ. The factors are so many that many scientists think that it isnt so practical to make such a test. The main factors that can change the test is language, culture, age, sex, way of calculating etc.
Usually IQ tests are made by military , goverments, companies and donīt really test intelligence but "smartness" to say in some specific topic. |
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| dice45 |
Dave,| quote: | | Hasn't helped me get rich... |
ROTFLMAO, me neither! :) |
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| cowanrg |
hum.
an intelligence test doesnt test subjects at all. it tests the ability to learn and comprehend information. thats why things like language inference, derived mathematics, and spacial orientation are on them. all can be picked up and learned without previos knowledge.
there are 8 categories to truly judge intelligence. it IS possible contrary to popular belief. but it is very involved. also, it isnt totally accurate because some of the tests are difficult to administer. social skills is actually a part of the test. trying to test on this without regard to culture is nearly impossible. |
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| Jules |
I also took one as part of an entrance exam to attend a particular college, never got the result but I did get a place on the course, so I guess it was reasonable.
Jules |
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| phishead8 |
I read a very interesting article the other day about logic.
It was trying to prove that logic is not ingrained into humans. It is learned. Furthermore, not all cultures have logic.
Here was an example from the article:
An African tribesman was told that up north all bears are white. Then he was told that his brother, who was visiting the north, saw a bear. The question posed to the tribesman: "What color was the bear?" His reply: "I didn't see the bear, why don't you ask my brother?"
The man could not answer the question. It wasn't becuase he was stupid, but because he never learned to think logically.
I thought it was weird. |
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| mrfeedback |
My understanding is that IQ tests really only guage how good you are at doing IQ tests.
25 years ago, before an entrance exam, that turned out to be a 5 hour IQ test, a friend loaned me several Penguin Press IQ test books.
With a bit of practice you learn to glom onto quickly what might have seemed an obscure question in subsequent tests.
Practice at example tests helps in subsequent ones, so the tests are guaging experience (knowledge) also, as opposed to straight out reasoning power (intelligence ?).
Eric.
BTW, I passed the 5 hour test. |
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| Circlotron |
Ahhhh well, at least it gives the weak and nerdy something they can possible boast about in this day and age.
BTW, I work with a fellow in his early forties like me, who when he was 14 did a MENSA test and he got 165 which was as high as the test would measure. This same person comes into work with his jumper inside out, shoes not done up, and tooth paste on his face. In contrast to me, he has zero power of intuitive reasoning, everything belonging in the mathematical realm. My limits are similar to Excels limits whereas he gives Mathematica a good hiding. My favourite story about him (of many BTW) is the time he went to the hardware shop and bought a long plank of wood and opened the back of his station wagon and rested the far end of the wood on the dashboard so it would just fit in the length of the car - or so he estimated. He then slammed the rear hatch door down and consequently rammed the other end of the wood through the windscreen. :p Something about spatial ability there.
Some of my closest friends have been people who are as thick as two short planks, but the point is that they were really nice people. I'd choose that over IQ any day.
GP. |
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| griff |
My 2 cents
It was an absolute crock and i cant believe the attention that it brought about. It was an IQ test for crying out loud. As much as I am sure we all struggled with 8-5, it was simply an exercise in marketing. My congratulations go out to the nine network, for pulling in so many suckers (except for DIYers). They made an absolute packet on a TEST, I cant remember ever looking forward to a test. |
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| jteef |
who wants to take bets that the FOX channel will air something like this in the US during the upcoming TV season. Only with dumber questions I'm guessing....
jt |
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| mrfeedback |
Yeah, maybe The Jerry Springer Show could have a show on this.
Probably no surprises though. :D
Eric. |
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| nania |
It seems to me that everyone who takes an IQ and scores low is ready to discredit it and those who score high laud it. After all, if I am successful in society and have the respect of my peers how dare some objective test tell me I'm an idiot? I read an interesting psychological study once that put a group of idiots together and the "alpha retard" if you will, actually gestured himself as though he were a peer of a higher IQ grouping he was introduced to and tried to contribute by stating obvious points in a loud voice in order to impress his leadership on the new peergroup. Further studies have shown that retards associated in peer groups of high IQ and later introduced to groups of higher intelligence than his own but less than his original peer group, considered himself smarter than this new group because of his former association. Is it any wonder that IQ tests are the source of such derision?
The only formula for true wisdom is being able to recognize the truth of something. It is only this that will enable the incorrect to correct themselves and the ignorant to learn. As you may have already guessed, this requires a certain humilty which is too rare a condition in human nature. Right opinion on something you don't know is closer to the truth than knowing something wrong. If you scored poorly, suck it up and know you can still do the right things if you follow what is true no matter who finds it out. |
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| mrfeedback |
Yes, an accepted definition of 'wisdom is to learn by your mistakes'.
I prefer 'wisdom is to learn by other's mistakes'. ;)
But "Right opinion on something you don't know" - Huh ?.
"by stating obvious points in a loud voice in order to impress" - yeah i've see some of that happening around here.
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| Brett |
REDNECK ENGINEERING EXAM
Jack,
do yer got da ansas? I think I don' gone an' scor'd good. |
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| phishead8 |
A long time ago I was introduced to a kid in junior high. With a straight face he said, "Hi, my name is ____ . I have an IQ of 156."
I instantly thought, "Man, what an idiot!"
As far as I know the kid never made it to college. I think that he believed his lesser peers would carry him through life on their shoulders. Instead they dropped him on his fat head.
I've never seen the benefit of IQ tests. If someone is smart, let their actions show it. Life is the only test, whose results I trust.
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| nania |
mrfeedback| quote: | | But "Right opinion on something you don't know" - Huh ?. |
You mean to tell me that you've never had to make a decision on something you didn't know with certainty? Most people that have jobs which rely on your decisions are too familiar with these kind of situations. |
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| AudioFreak |
| Yes Brett I have the answers, I will send them to you later today. |
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| mrfeedback |
Is there a drummer iq test ?.
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| Bill Fitzpatrick |
mrfeedback:
Yes there is.
If you hit the drum with the stick rather than the other way around you are considered a good drummer and can get a job with a punk band anytime. |
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| Circlotron |
Data isn't information.
Information isn't knowledge.
Knowledge isn't wisdom.
Possibly an IQ test shows your ability to understand data. But not very much more.
GP. |
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| uvodee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Circlotron
We just had that National IQ Test thingy on tv Tuesday night. [url] GP. |
yeah, i had to do an 'official' iq test during a job interview. the psochologist asked me after he came back with the results if i had done this particular test before (allthough i had to fill that in on the bottom of the last page ????) i repleide NO Sir.
then he sat down, looked at me and said : i undertand you are a foreigner (Belgian) but that shouldn't make too much of a difference, howver 134 on this test and considering your age - 43 - you are far too overqualified to let you go to work in the X company. THANK YOU AMERICA !!!!!
In the files of the several official institutes, you can easily find that many countries score a higher IQ then us citizens, if compared with the same test! The truth is even more halucinant if you consider that the testprocedure in the US is far more easy comapred to other countries!!!!!!!
A La Bonheur!
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| mefinnis |
Have fun:
http://aceviper.websitegalaxy.com/
"A higher IQ score is not a guarantee that an individual will achieve happiness, maintain sanity, or obtain spiritual growth." |
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| janneman |
I did the Mensa test many years ago, not to bad actually.
Talking with some of the Mensa members after the test they conceded that "The only thing the IQ test measures, is how well you do on the IQ test. Period". Sounds silly, but think about it.
Jan Didden |
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| Circlotron |
Fair enough. Some (kids) clubs require you to eat worms to become a member. This just their version of the same thing.
GP. |
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| swede |
Never actually tried that worm thing, but one of the really cool gangs when I was a kid (pre 9 years old) made you kiss one of the girls! Wheeeuuu, that scared off most of the kids on our street.
//magnus |
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| DSP_Geek |
| quote: | Originally posted by janneman
Talking with some of the Mensa members after the test they conceded that "The only thing the IQ test measures, is how well you do on the IQ test. Period". Sounds silly, but think about it.
Jan Didden |
Heh. My friends who joined Mensa said the same thing.
Francois. |
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| phn |
I didn't read thru the whole thread. But I thought I at least should add this, perception is largely a learnt behaviour. Meaning that an IQ test written in the US may work in Europe, but most likely not in Asia. Of course, you could just draw the conclusion that Asians are dumber and be over with it.
I think there's a name for what planet10 brought up. It includes such things as social competence. I will get burned for this (though I shouldn't), but propeller heads usually score low on this. Just as propeller heads get high scores on IQ tests. And I think at least the latter is easily explained. Propeller heads are very good at abstract thinking, math and programming for example. |
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