| uli |
Its time to purchase a new TT. As I have no chance to compare them is there anybody out there who can tell pros and cons?
Thanks
Uli
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PS: OriginLive tweaked RB300 + Goldring Eroica GX will be used |
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| lohk |
Uli,
did you know that Thomas Scheu died a few days ago. He surely was a great guy and a strong fighter for the survival of the phonograph record and analog audio.
I suppose his company http://www.scheu-analog.de/ will go on though.
Klaus |
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| lohk |
Uli,
I would prefer the Scheu Premiere.
But: why dont you start to make your own, maybe even using - pun intended - a wooden platter?
Klaus /still using his trusty old LP12 |
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| uli |
Yes I know, its online already, and it is really a tragedy, both for his family and for the analog community either.
Uli
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| uli |
| quote: | Originally posted by lohk
why dont you start to make your own, maybe even using - pun intended - a wooden platter?
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I got sooo much stuff in my place which waits to be finished, it would be a 3 years project. I thought about diy, but if you add all components buying a Premiere with 9" base and 80mm platter would be about 1700,-- € and diy the base would be about 1100,--€ plus base !
Fatbob S is about 1800,--€
At the moment I rather prefer the Scheu just because this acrylic 80mm platter is much cooler than the alu Transrotor, without having heard the Scheu.
Uli
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| krishu |
Hi,
I heard Fatbob S with Rega and Goldring Eroica few days ago and the performance was very disappointing. The owner was unhappy, too. He tried al lot with adjusting etc but did not succeed.
I'd prefer the Scheu Premier, too, but did only listen to smaller Scheu turntables until now. These are very "easy to listen to" and you can "adjust" the sound by chosing different arms. The Rega would be entry-Level for this turntable, a Schröder the best choice. Between are (Scheu ...) Unipivots which perform very good on Scheu turntables.
But note you'd need a strobe disc and flasher to set speed on the Scheu.
I hope this helps
Cheers
Christian. |
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| uli |
| quote: | Originally posted by krishu
The Rega would be entry-Level for this turntable, a Schröder the best choice. Between are (Scheu ...) Unipivots which perform very good on Scheu turntables.
But note you'd need a strobe disc and flasher to set speed on the Scheu. |
I own a strobe disc already and the RB300 is "hypertweaked" not only with the OL armtuning, but symmetrcal wiring and XLR connectors.
Danke Christian!
deine website ist toll, hab mir dort Anregungen geholt, aber meine diy Fähigkeiten halten sich in Grenzen ;)
Für ein Metallgehäuse von Monacor mit Schäffer Frontplatte reichts grade noch, bin mehr der Elektroniker...
Uli
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| krishu |
Hallo Uli,
I do not know the Origin Live tweaks in particular but know that those Rega arms can be improved dramatically. But there is still a limit and Rega arms tend to sound a bit "behaved", not really "free", which is the opposite of what unipivot designs usually tend to be. But anyway I am sure you'd be happy.
Apart from that: do you like to spend money on a Transrotor while the owner of the business states that he mainly listens to CDs, collects Jaguar cars and wears "Digital Radio" merchandising stuff ...?
Cheers
Christian. |
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| uli |
Christian,
its simply a matter of money, as I own this Rega already.
I did this OL tweaking on my own ( www.originlive.com )
New counterweight + special mounting, new wiring, slots in the arm, improvement was dramatically even on my old Planar 3 which in turn is also tweaked (OL DC-motor, homegrown psu).
I tend to buy the Scheu now, everybody who I know prefers it to the TR although I have to think the diy version over. Maybe I make a base out of "Buche" (??? in english) because I have some 3cm plates left from my new kitchen from last year.
Do you have a plan for such a base?
Uli
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| krishu |
Hi,
Buche is beech in English, try dict.cc (without www)
Can you please tell me more about the OL motor? What brand is it? How is the power supply regulating speed? Or is it just setting speed? Is the speed load independent?
You can make a very nice turntable without spending that much money. But I suggest buying the platter and bearing, maybe the motor, too. But your OL motor would be fine I guess. Depending on platter width it can be around 500 Euros.
A plinth can also be made out of plywood (birch(Birke), beech etc.).
If you are interested, check this (my offer): diy turntable for sale ... maybe only parts.
Cheers
Christian. |
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| uli |
http://www.turntable-power-supply.c...or_versions.htm
its the standard version, but I will swap the tweaked Planar 3 when I buy the Scheu platter(80mm) (450,--€), bearing (210,--€) and maybe the motor (75,--€ or complete motor assy 350,--€) too. I will try to build a 9cm plinth out of those "beech" kitchen boards (IKEA)I thought (filled with lead). ~824-1099 Euros incl. weight plus building of the plinth.
Thats about the money I got at this time.
Uli
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PS: I got to finish my X pre someday, lots to do for the next 2 years
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| krishu |
Hi,
solid wood is not always the best choice, just think of resonances etc. ... when talking about kitchen boards Corian is something to consider ...
Can you tell me about the OL motor more in Detail? Do you have close-up photos? what is it labeled? manufacturer? How is speed set? Voltage? Is there a regulation loop?
Cheers
Christian. |
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| Jan I |
Hi
Here you can see a picture of my OL standard motor/power set:
OL have 3 diffrent motors,one standard,and DC100 and DC200.
The pulley is glued to the motor from OL,so you must find out what kind you must have. (large/high and standard)
There are 2 diffrent knobs under the box for setting the speed in 33/45
Jan I |
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| uli |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jan I
The pulley is glued to the motor from OL,so you must find out what kind you must have. (large/high and standard)
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Here is a very good description of that system.
http://www.turntable-power-supply.c...itting/rega.htm
At the OL website there is a listing which pulley to choose
Uli
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| krishu |
Hi,
thanks for the info,
I wanted to know if it regulates speed load-independent or not ... as I read on the OPL website this is not the case so I am not interested ;)
Cheers
Christian. |
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| Bas Horneman |
Hi Krishu,
Do you have any idea, what brand the OL DC200 motor is?
Also, what have you found the to be the best types of controller for DC motors?
Regards,
Bas
PS. I love your website! |
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| Werner |
Maxon, probably RE-Max series.
And Maxon sell directly to private end-users ;-) |
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| Bas Horneman |
| Thanks Werner! |
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| krishu |
Hello,
I don't know about OL;
I tried several Maxons and finally got one from Ebay Germany http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...item=7314637770
which is speed stable enough. Voltage regulation is done with a LT1086 in standard LM317 configuration.
I still prefer the PLL motors like the one offered by Scheu Analog; I buy those tape decks from fleemarkets here and pull out the VEM 1170.2 motors and the tranformers which are quite good as well. If you need only one motor I might check my store ;)
Cheers
Christian. |
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| Bas Horneman |
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Hallo Christian,
Is it easy to build circuitry to control PLL motors?
If yes... I would like to buy one motor from you to experiment with. :)
It strikes me thought that the MAXON you got is not one of the better MAXON'S?
Regards,
Bas |
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| krishu |
Hello,
the controller is included, looks like this:
you'll have to solder some pots to adjust the speed
My website is only in German when talking about this motor but you are welcome to ask your questions.
I would ask for some Euros (lets say €22), Paypal is welcome, shipping within EU no problem at all.
The Motor is stable at a range of speed but not at any speed. if you drive a 300mm platter with the original pulley using a polyamide string there should be no problem.
Cheers
Christian. |
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| Bas Horneman |
You've got mail. I just want to play around with my BIX..and see how the PLL motor compares. That is one thing that is very nice about the BIX..the motor pod is seperate and allows ofcourse for different motors etc.
Regards,
Bas |
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| Werner |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bas Horneman
It strikes me thought that the MAXON you got is not one of the better MAXON'S?
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For reference: a RE-Max is quite large and sets you back about a 100 euros. |
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