| Bill Fitzpatrick |
| How come I get such good audio quality from VHS tapes and the bulk of my CD collection, in comparison, sounds like ****? |
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| Frank Berry |
| VHS HI Fi is completely analog ... frequency modulation. |
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| Bill Fitzpatrick |
| Any further comments anyone? |
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| analog_sa |
| quote: | | Any further comments anyone |
How can anyone comment upon such a general observation? What is the cd player? Something nice? A diy effort; a $50 piece of junk? To me they all sound bad in one way or another and that's why i only listen to cds in the car. A nice analogue tape deck certainly sounds better; why not a VHS? |
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| Bill Fitzpatrick |
The CD player is a Marantz CD63SE but I get the same results with other CD players.
To my ears, a CD is like a table radio in comparison to what comes off a VHS tape. The difference is HUGE. Is the CD format inherently that bad?
I wan't to throw all my CDs in the recycle bin :bawling: but I don't want to give up my music.
I'm wondering if anyone could make an educated comment regarding the quality of vinyl vs VHS for analog only material. |
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| loonatron |
I also use a stereo VHS machine for recording music! Though just for general use, instead of cassettes...
Anyway, what are you recording onto the vhs? vinyl? or your own recordings? |
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| mattjk |
| Super Beta is even better! |
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| Jennice |
Analog_sa,
Do you buy music on tape, or how do you get it onto tape in the first place?
Jennice |
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| macboy |
Hi-Fi VHS can acheive 90 dB dynamic range and SNR figures, and it is completely analog, so there's no mystery as to why it sounds good. It is recorded using a helical recording head travelling across the surface of the tape faster than any traditional (linear) tape recorder. Remember that these heads and tapes also record and play back video with over 2 MHz bandwidth. Audio is no challenge.
Have you tried other CD players? They don't all do an equivalent job of reconstructing a clean analog signal from an over-quantized digital one. |
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| Van Hai |
I have been use Hi8 for my most my recording, i think it sound very very good, you can record in LP you almost get 18hrs in one tape which much smaller than VHS.
Cheer |
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| analog_sa |
| quote: | | Do you buy music on tape, or how do you get it onto tape in the first place? |
Sorry to mislead you Jennice. This was just an opinion regarding analogue tape - i only listen to vinyl.
Years ago a friend of mine used to take a Sony proffessional cassette recorder to concerts and make his own binaural recordings with a silly looking 'head' with mike ears. These recordings were absolutely amazing on his electrostatic headphones and very, very good on his (and mine) diy electrostatic speakers. Way better than cd could possibly sound and in many important ways better than my vinyl rig at the time. |
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| Jennice |
analog_sa,
I think I know what kind of head you mean. The ones manufactured by Brüel and Kjær are called HATS (Head And Torso Simulator).
I'm engineer, too, and thus I can't ignore your tag-line...
>>>The problem with professional engineers is they are born without ears. Not their fault. That makes the evaluation by listening pretty hard.
Very well said by Elso<<<
A very broad claim, which he should either keep for himself, or be more specific about. If professional engineers always used their ears in stead of science, there would be no such thing as an objective measurement for reference. This would give room for even more ultra high-end hoax stuff (such as more than $100 wood knobs, which should give a tremendous improvement in sound quality if used as replacement for the original volume knob. (I saw this add from a real shop!)
The knob's special coating should give improved mechanical resonance patterns, which improved the sound! )
Also, if it wasn't for ear-less engineers, there would be no such thing as dynamic-range measurements, which you guys happily refer to!
Jennice |
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| macboy |
| quote: | | Also, if it wasn't for ear-less engineers, there would be no such thing as dynamic-range measurements, which you guys happily refer to! |
Actually, the only one to mention dynamic range in this thread was me, and I am an Engineer (oh the horror!). |
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