| Gregm |
Thank you, Christian.
We're nearly there.
Euro buyers please note, however that:
GBP 25= USD 46,2, and,
GBP 15= USD 27,7 at today's rates.
As an indication of the equivalent in Euro multiply the USD amount by 0,77.
We;ve really gone global here :) Dispatching a variety of items, from two different points, to multiple destinations... anyone have a logistics s/ware to spare :D
Cheers |
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| krishu |
Hi,
oops, yes, as I see online currency calculators say GBP25 are USD 46.2 ... Brians answered he asks for USD 32 ... obviously he mixed up Euro and GBP ... he said 46.2 is rigt.
So the amount for Europe to pay via paypal is USD (***+46.2)×1.03 ...
Cheers
Christian. |
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| Michi124 |
Jon,
is it really correct that EU buyers are supposed to pay GBP 25,00 for shipping two small transformers from the UK?
This very high amount opposes all my personal experiences of shipping costs and leaves me speechless. :bigeyes:
Any explanations? |
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| secanbj |
Hi
Even if they are small they are quit heavy, around 1.5 kg each.
/Anders |
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| Gregm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Michi124
This very high amount opposes all my personal experiences of shipping costs |
Not so unusual. For example from Germany, DP used to charge 26 euro for packages up to 10kg, 36 euro for 10-20 kg... for destinations within the EU. |
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| jonclancy |
Michi,
the 102s are very heavy and will be sent registered post to the EU and by Interlink within the UK.
I'm sorry if the price is higher than you anticipated.
Cheers
Jon |
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| jonclancy |
Just to confirm:
ALL PAYMENTS, including postage, are to go to BRIAN.
Cheers
Jon |
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| jonclancy |
Dear All,
the TX102 WIKI is now closed. I have printed off a record.
http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index....+Group+Purchase
Please note the payment deadline of MIDNIGHT Friday 12 November.
More info on where to send your delivery address to very soon.
Please do not forget the terms and conditions posted on the Forum and the WIKI.
Best wishes
Jon :D |
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| jonclancy |
Hi All,
The TX102 WIKI is closed and we are now entering the payment phase of this GP.
Before I offer some guidance to standardise the information provided to Brian, regardless of your preferred payment method, I'd like to ask one thing:
If you were on the WIKI, and you now need to withdraw from the list, please email me as soon as you can and let me know. I'll copy these messages to Brian and Gregm. This will allow us to have an accurate figure to work with and take some of the guesswork out of this GP.
PAYMENT GUIDANCE
Regardless of your payment method, it is important that Brian receives not only your payment by 2359 GMT Friday 12 Nov, but also ACCURATE contact information.
This information may be sent with your PayPal order, or by email to Brian (sales@diyhifisupply.com) if you are using an alternative payment method (see below).
IMPORTANT!!! DO NOT SEND YOUR CREDIT CARD DETAILS BY EMAIL. IMPORTANT!!!
1. Your WIKI listed name.
2. Your real name.
3. Your email address(es).
4. Your delivery address.
5. The address at which your credit card is registered (if different from your delivery address).
6. Contact telephone number(s).
7. Your calculations and total. This is important because if you have made an error, it will be easier to rectify if we can see how you worked out your Grand Total.
IMPORTANT!!! DO NOT SEND YOUR CREDIT CARD DETAILS BY EMAIL. IMPORTANT!!!
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
PAYMENT TOTALS
You will need to work out your own total.
PayPal is an easy way to pay, but you will need to include 3% charges to your total (i.e. XX USD for the 102s + XX USD for shipping + 3% = Grand Total.
Other payment methods are listed on Brian's site here:
http://www.diyhifisupply.com/diyhs_ordering.htm
POSTAGE RATES
Postage rates for UK and Europe are given on the thread here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/show...32&pagenumber=3
Make sure you use the correct conversion rate and don't get your Euros and USD mixed up. Even though postage is priced in GBP (15 to UK, 25 to Europe) you need to pay Brian in USD. For those of you outside Europe, your 102s will be dispatched from Brian and will be charged at the rates listed on his website (here):
http://www.diyhifisupply.com/diyhs_ordering.htm
If you are negotiating with Brian directly for switches and kits, you will need to find out from him your shipping. The heavy discount on the switches means you WILL NOT be entitled to the "Free Shipping on orders over 100 USD" as listed on the site. This is for full-price items.
SUMMARY
Please try to get your order paid up sooner rather than later. Not only will this smooth out Brian's considerable workload, but also ensure that a delay does not tip you past the payment deadline of 2359 GMT Friday 12 Nov.
Any orders not paid for by the deadline will not be placed with S & B. Without exception.
Please email me or Gregm if you have any queries about the payment process. As much of the information is available to you in the links listed, I'd be grateful if you could have a look there first - email traffic is up at the moment (makes me feel quite popular!!).
Many thanks to Brian for making this GP happen and for offering further generous discounts (outside of the WIKI). Also to Gregm who has been working hard as a "fixer".
Best wishes
Jon |
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| jonclancy |
Hi all,
I just got this email - It may be an issue, may not.
Cheers
Jon
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All,
If your PayPal account is unverified, you'll need to know this.
I am "verified" so I haven't come across this problem. Perhaps you could pay in 2 batches, making sure all fees were covered???
Cheers
Jon
Jon
In emails with Brian I have confirmed the following
however when trying to pay through a standard paypal account I find
that my limit is $468 and to raise this I am getting my account
verified.
It might be advisable to let the other group members know this as
there could be a 5 day delay in getting the account verified. |
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| Hompie Dompie |
Just fyi: I just made my payment through an unverfified paypal account, and my limit was 750 euro's. So no problem with that.
Btw big thanks to Jon & Brian for making this possible! |
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| Badge |
| I am just thinking ahead. Would one of the kits featuring remote control and individual relays coming out of Hong Kong work with these transformers? The Two I have seen are 100K and 250K attenuators. |
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| KT |
What type of attenuator would we need for these? I have a four-deck Elma that was intended for a ladder-type stereo attenuator. Would this work?
Also, are there any more details about the Seiden switch?
Thanks,
KT |
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| krishu |
Hi,
one answer, one question:
answer:
a two-deck switch is enough (two-pole not four-pole)
question:
it is said that we shall give credit card details to brian - I have none; my paypal payment will take the money from my bank account via bank transfer ... any hints?
BTW, how long does a paypal payment usually need to arrive?
Cheers
Christian. |
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| Bas Horneman |
| quote: | | BTW, how long does a paypal payment usually need to arrive |
Virtually immediate!
Transferring money from your bank-account to your paypal account takes "a couple of days" |
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| krishu |
Hello again,
since my paypal account is connected to my bank account it would take a few days ... not fast enough for 12th of November ... so I paid via credit card directly to Brian. Hopefully this works ... I guess if he does not reply until tomorrow I do have a problem ...
Cheers
Christian. |
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| Gregm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krishu
I guess if he does not reply until tomorrow I do have a problem ... |
Shouldn't be any problem. I did the same thing & it worked fine (or so I think???).
Anyway, it seems that payments have already reached the original minimum order of 20 pairs...
Admittedly, we're an efficient group:angel: |
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| wytco0 |
I was justs about to pay for mine and I find I have deleted the email with the prices in could Greg or Jon resend it to me please.
I am after 2 transformers and 2 switches.
Cheers |
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| Gregm |
| Just mailed you, Wytco0 |
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| jonclancy |
....... has just passed.
This GP is now CLOSED.
Thanks to all who supported it.
:D
Jon |
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| mwiebe |
Jon,
Thanks for your work on this group buy.
Matt |
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| jonclancy |
Thanks for your kind words, Matt.
I'd like to say a big thanks to Gregm who really rolled up his sleeves and got stuck in.
But the biggest thanks have to go to Brian and JB who have really put themselves out for us, and to Kuei who I am sure did some sterling work behind the scenes..... :angel:
Roll on Xmas!! :D
Jon |
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| wytco0 |
Jon and Greg, just want to add my thanks as well. Thank you for making this happen.
While I am here does anyone know the physical dimensions of the TX102 transformers? I want to buy some enclosures for my Power amps and it would be nice to get something for the pre that matches. |
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| jonclancy |
Here's some details from the source......
http://www.stevens-billington.co.uk/page102.htm
I want to start a constructional thread this weekend, including all the relevant links to start off with.
The beauty of these cans is that the implementation appears really quite simple.
Personally, my next move is to go and see a man about some stone....... (marble to be precise!).
Cheers
Jon :) |
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| Badge |
| Jon, I am looking at the remote volume kits from Hong Kong. They use a series of relays, each with a specific resistor. Seems like it would be easy to not use the resistors and hook up the correct transformer attenuation wire to each relay. Your thoughts? |
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| wytco0 |
Jon, thanks for this link, marble sounds interesting !
Badge, I was thinking the same thing but didnt realise there was such a thing on the market, do you have any deatils of the HK remote volume? |
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| jonclancy |
Hi Badge,
I'm no expert but I can't see why not - the relays are performing a mechanical function. Of course, they would have to be electrically isolated - I thought all relays were. I don't know about the effect the proximity of another current (within the relay) would have on the signal current in the TX102 wires.
Any thoughts all?
Jon |
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| Gregm |
Thanks for your kinds words... it was fun really & Jon's wiki is the only way I could afford these cans...
Remote control:
1) The copious, mechanical way is to buy a stepped motor and connect it to the multiswitch via pulley & long shaft (Bent does that I think). Unless one finds a supplier for a remote controlled step motor and a ladder belt (I haven't), this can be a nightmare.
2)| quote: | Originally posted by Badge
...I am looking at the remote volume kits from Hong Kong. They use a series of relays, each with a specific resistor. Seems like it would be easy to not use the resistors and hook up the correct transformer attenuation wire to each relay. Your thoughts? |
This is the way I'm going, too. I'm already using relays for the selector. One matter there, as Jon notes, is to play with ground in order to isolate the relays from the signal otherwise there's a thump every time you change the volume. But that's manageable...
Much to my dismay, however, I found the cost of quality relays + remote function purchased separately, to be prohibitive:(
So Badge's idea of a kit seems the most viable proposition... except for the quality of the relays.
UNFORTUNATELY, when I tried the bog standard, by the pound, relays on a friend's resistor volume control they sounded MUCH worse than the "quality" ones. So skimping on the relays would be defeating the whole sonic purpose of buying the transformer...
The bad news: this friend purchased the "quality" RF relays direct from a B2B electronics supplier for eur: 4/each minimum order 100 pieces:dead:
I managed to bum a few for my selector but can hardly ask him for another 24 for the volume. So it seems I'm stuck with the manual switch for now... |
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| squadra |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gregm
The bad news: this friend purchased the "quality" RF relays direct from a B2B electronics supplier for eur: 4/each minimum order 100 pieces:dead:
I managed to bum a few for my selector but can hardly ask him for another 24 for the volume. So it seems I'm stuck with the manual switch for now... |
This could be solved by another group buy...
I am currently designing a RC operated switch for a transformer based attenuator.
Per channel 13 relais are necessary, so that would be 26 for a stereo set.
So the 100 relay minimum should be achievable.
Do you have info on the relay, i was designing for gold plated dil relais?
Thanks,
Peter |
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| jonclancy |
Hi All,
In order to allow Brian time in his busy schedule, please will you pass any queries you may have about the GP to either me or Gregm?
I will be receiving an order list from Brian when it is complete. This list will remain with me to ensure everyone's privacy, and I will use it only to inform you when your items are shipping. Thereafter, it will be deleted. I will not pass any info on to third parties etc.
If anyone has any issues with this (data protection etc), please mail me.
All the best
Jon :) |
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| Gregm |
| quote: | Originally posted by squadra
Do you have info on the relay, i was designing for gold plated dil relais? |
Sorry it's taken me so long to answer -- & I still don't have the specs on me (although they're basically standard as I remember).
I WILL get back with info, though. Cheers |
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| jonclancy |
Hi All,
just to let you know that initial 102 manufacturing has commenced. Once we get word that orders are about to ship, we'll let you know.
I know you can't bear the wait......but calm yourselves!! ;) :D
Cheers
Jon |
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| Gregm |
Certain peripheral items to the wiki have started shipping out of HK.
It might take some time for these to arrive at destination -- remember we're closing in on Xmas and the good'ole postal service may take its time;) |
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| wytco0 |
| Greg, I had some arrive a few minutes ago. |
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| KevinTams |
peripheral items from Brian arrived today :) good service all round I think
Kevin |
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| mcs |
I have just designed a PCB for a relay attenuator, as some of you may have seen in the "Solid State" forum - based on squadra's idea/schematic. It looks like the cost is about $72 or 70€ for a kit of PCB, relays and other parts. A control/remote control receiver board would be needed also, but that doesn't have to cost a lot.
What's needed? A rotary encoder for volume setting? up/down buttons? LED display? LCD display? No display? Or 20 LEDs? :)
The price mentioned above is based on one kit. If I order parts for more kits it will go down. But how much interest is there?
Best regards,
Mikkel C. Simonsen |
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| Badge |
| Mikkel, This is what I am looking for as long as it is a transparent as possible. You might want to look at the kits our of Hong Kong that have a numeric display and remote. It might be wise to use your design for the relay hook up and combine that with their display/receiver? |
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| jonclancy |
All,
just to let you know that the 102s will be dispatched in batches, over a few weeks, as they are manufactured.
For those of you outside the EU, you will be later in the delivery schedule because the 102s need to go to Brian first.
More info as it becomes available.
Cheers
Jon
PS Anyone know anything about chain-sawing marble??? ;) |
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| mcs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Badge
Mikkel, This is what I am looking for as long as it is a transparent as possible. |
I don't think relays are less transparent than a rotary switch.
| quote: | | You might want to look at the kits our of Hong Kong that have a numeric display and remote. It might be wise to use your design for the relay hook up and combine that with their display/receiver? |
Are you talking about the kits on the diyclub.biz site? I can't find anything that looks suitable for this application there?
But the display and receiver part is very simple to design, so that's no problem.
Best regards,
Mikkel C. Simonsen |
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| Gregm |
| quote: | Originally posted by mcs
I have just designed a PCB for a relay attenuator |
That's geat news! I believe I still owe you info on the super-duper, hi-end approved, cryo'ed gold relays...:(
| quote: | | What's needed? A rotary encoder for volume setting? up/down buttons? LED display? LCD display? No display? Or 20 LEDs? |
Cost-wise, I would shy away fm 20 (blue) leds -- though they'd look cool enough. In fact, I'm not sure I need a display even.
A remote control function, however, would be really nice. Haven't found anything reasonably priced myself... |
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| Gregm |
Sorry, back again. Just looked at Mikkel's site and I wonder:
with all the little gadgets:D available, couldn't we end up with a remote controlled input & volume function in one (easy to install) package?
In that case, I'd even consider the cost of a display! (BTW, I've already installed leds indicating the input being used on my relay selector-- hence my reticence regarding a separate display:) )
Cheers |
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| squadra |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gregm
That's geat news! I believe I still owe you info on the super-duper, hi-end approved, cryo'ed gold relays...:(
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No, that would be me :)
| quote: |
Cost-wise, I would shy away fm 20 (blue) leds -- though they'd look cool enough. In fact, I'm not sure I need a display even.
A remote control function, however, would be really nice. Haven't found anything reasonably priced myself... |
My guess is that a complete 2-channel set based on my current attenuator schematic would be somewhere near €110.
A set would consist of 5 pcb's (a controller board and 4 boards for 2 channels (for 24 taps transformers)) including 26 relays (zettler az832) a programmed microcontroller and small parts (i.e. resistors, caps).
If 4 inputs are enough, then a stereo input selector board -connected to the same controller pcb- would increase the price with about 25€ (again including relays, pcb etc.)
Maybe people who are interested in the relay based attenuator, could contribute to the discussion in either Mikkel's or my thread, as this is not the appropriate thread (sorry for hijacking this one for a moment).
Regards,
Peter |
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| mcs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gregm
Sorry, back again. Just looked at Mikkel's site and I wonder:
with all the little gadgets:D available, couldn't we end up with a remote controlled input & volume function in one (easy to install) package? |
Yes, why not? You have already seen the "big" input selector board I guess. I could also make a small 3- or 4 input addon board. That would probably cost about €15.
That would make the total for the audio parts €85. The control board can be anything from €10 to €100 ;)
| quote: | | In that case, I'd even consider the cost of a display! (BTW, I've already installed leds indicating the input being used on my relay selector-- hence my reticence regarding a separate display:) ) |
One of the small control boards I've made would cost about €15. A more advanced type with an LCD display for instance would cost a bit more. But what do you want?
The prices I have mentioned above are based on one kit. If I get orders for more kits, I can buy the parts in larger quantities and get discounts. I just need an approx. quantity to calculate the costs.
I can also use Zettler relays like Peter (squadra) suggests. That would cut about €8 from the €85 mentioned above. I don't know if Omron relays are better than Zettler relays, but they are more expensive.
Best regards,
Mikkel C. Simonsen |
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| mcs |
Here's a small and simple input selector:
Best regards,
Mikkel C. Simonsen |
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| Gregm |
Omron relays are the ones I referred to in my previous post. The ones for RF applications come in batches of 100 & cost EUR4/ea wholesale (+VAT, I suppose).
They are better, by far, than cheaper ones (~EUR2/ea retail) I tried on a friend's system. But as I don;t remember the cheapers' specs, that's hardly conclusive vs. the Zettlers.
| quote: | | But what do you want? |
Basically, input & some vol indication. I'll have to attach the display to a thick, wooden front panel of my control box -- one way or the other. It's an old tube pre with wooden sides, glass top & metal bottom & back panel. I'm pulling out the active circuit, keeping the relays selector (Omron G5V) with their PS and taking it from there (i.e., I have a mutliposition switch to keep things ticking for now).
fact is, I can live w/out a display, but would like a remote for the obvious two reasons:
1) I am lazy
2) I am very lazy
Cheers:D |
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| mcs |
You could use either of the two small control panels I have made (one with a LED display and one with no display). They were not made for selecting inputs, but I could add a button you could press to select inputs with the encoder. From the remote it's no problem of course - no buttons needed on the board for that :)
I'll make an LCD display version of that board also - cost probably around €15-20.
You could also use a "special edition" of the Control2 board. I could make that including either two encoders or one encoder and up to 8 pushbuttons for the €29 listed on the page. That would include some nice extra features also :D
The LCD displays don't have to be expensive. You can get surplus 1*16 displays for around €3. The fashionable blue ones cost a bit more of course...
Best regards,
Mikkel C. Simonsen |
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| KT |
Received my Seiden switches yesterday. Thanks, guys!
The remote relay switching kit sound great, too. Hope a group buy on a kit is somewhere in the future.
One question, though: I assume the relays would click for every step the volume control goes up or down. Is there any way to avoid this with a relays?
I'm sure most people wouldn't care about the noise, but some people (customers) who experienced similar volume control clicking on the Pathos integrated amps and preamps really didn't like it. They ruled out the purchase of those amps for that reason alone.
Just a heads up for anyone interested in using relays for volume switching.
Best,
KT |
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| mcs |
| quote: | Originally posted by KT
One question, though: I assume the relays would click for every step the volume control goes up or down. |
Not necessarily. Some relays switch so fast, that you can't hear the noise. They may be more expensive than the standard types though... Another option would be mute-before-switch.
| quote: | | I'm sure most people wouldn't care about the noise, but some people (customers) who experienced similar volume control clicking on the Pathos integrated amps and preamps really didn't like it. They ruled out the purchase of those amps for that reason alone. |
So I guess I'll have to make something better :)
| quote: | | Just a heads up for anyone interested in using relays for volume switching. |
If I had any idea how much interest there was, I could start checking prices... It makes a big difference if you order parts for one kit or 100.
Best regards,
Mikkel C. Simonsen |
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| KT |
Hi Mikkel,
I'm very curious to see how the kits turn out. I'm very interested.
I take your point about the switching noise and the muting. If the fast relays avoid this problem and sound good at the same time, then those look like the ones.
Actually, the switching noise I was referring to isn't the popping or thumping one would hear through the speakers. You are right, however, to address this issue in the design.
The noise I'm really speaking about is the mechanical clicking that you would hear as the relays snap open and shut. I think most people wouldn't mind this, but those of us considering relays should keep in mind that there will be a series of audible mechanical clicks as the volume is ramped up and down.
It's not so noticeable for source selection since you'd only click once to change your source. But a series of 4 to 10 fast clicks can be distracting to some people.
I remember giving demos of the afore mentioned amps, and while otherwise excellent amps, they did have this problem. Many of the customers would be really turned off when the quiet passage they were listening to was interupted by "click, click, click, click..." as they adjusted the volume.
Personally, it didn't bother me at all, nor did it bother anyone else who worked in the store, but I did notice that a number of people were sensitive to it. Just something to keep in mind if you're considering using relays for volume control.
Anyhow, I look forward to the relay kit offering. This should be a killer preamp!
And thanks to everyone who made this group buy possible. Greatly appreciated.
Best,
KT |
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| mcs |
| quote: | Originally posted by KT
The noise I'm really speaking about is the mechanical clicking that you would hear as the relays snap open and shut. I think most people wouldn't mind this, but those of us considering relays should keep in mind that there will be a series of audible mechanical clicks as the volume is ramped up and down. |
One posibility is reed relays. Some say they are great for audio use - others say the magnetic field around the switch makes them unsuitable. That sounds a bit like voodoo to me ;)
Most of the high-end equipment I have seen uses standard (noisy) mechanical relays though.
| quote: | | I remember giving demos of the afore mentioned amps, and while otherwise excellent amps, they did have this problem. Many of the customers would be really turned off when the quiet passage they were listening to was interupted by "click, click, click, click..." as they adjusted the volume. |
It doesn't bother me - I don't adjust the volume all the time. I set the volume and leave it.
| quote: | | Anyhow, I look forward to the relay kit offering. This should be a killer preamp! |
I hope so - I'll know when the test board arrives.
Best regards,
Mikkel C. Simonsen |
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| krishu |
Hi,
are there any news? Can we expect the transformers to arrive before christmas? My soldering iron is already glowing ....
Cheers
Christian. |
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| jonclancy |
No news as yet.
I promise I'll post as soon as I hear!! :)
I'm waiting with bated breath, too!! :D
Cheers
Jon :cool: |
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| jonclancy |
Hi All,
I can confirm that all the European transformers have been shipped. Brian will ship the others as soon as he receives them from S&B in the next few days. :)
Please be aware, though, that this is the slowest time of year for delivery service. Sorry, but these is nothing we can do to speed up the delivery process - Brian will turn them round as quickly as he is able. :smash:
More news as I get it. :att'n:
Jon :) |
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| krishu |
Hi,
this is good news! What parcel service has been chosen? UPS? FedEx?
Cheers
Christian. |
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| jonclancy |
Hi Christian,
"UK delivery is 15 GBP Via Interlink delivery. And Europe Via registered post for £25."
This was posted much earlier in the GP - I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
Rgds
Jon |
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| wytco0 |
| OK so now the TX-102's are on there way (I know at least one has been delivered) who wants to start a thread on how to build a Pre with them? and where should we put that thread? |
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| Keith Marrison |
Hi; this is good news! I'm glad I have some time off over the next ten days.Need to get busy and finish the casework.
Cheers; Keith |
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| krishu |
Hi,
I just put a thread there: ---> click <---
If the place is wrong an administrator will put it right ...
Cheers
Christian. |
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| Keith Marrison |
| They've arrived!!:D |
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| Gregm |
Good for you, you lucky !@%&:)
The rest of us are pining away, waiting for our love-package!
You MUST have connections in the postal service -- c'mon, cough it up:D |
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| jonclancy |
I think my Wife has hidden mine!!
:D
Jon |
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| mkc |
I think my wife has done the same :bawling:
I guess she suspect that I will be in the music room chrismas eve.
mkc |
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| TJ |
Hi, can we open a new thread about how to wiring the tx102 ? since most of the menber received the tx102 ?
merry x'mas
TJ |
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| jonclancy |
Hi All,
my parcel has arrived. The cans are very, very nicely put together. I can't wait to get them hooked up - though I have to get Xmas and New Year duties done first!! :D
Merry Christmas!
Jon |
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| krishu |
Hi,
happy new Year!
my parcel arrived on dec 30. I already assembled the cans with an Alps 23 step switch and it sounds not too bad at all :D
Thanks to all who have made this possible.
Cheers
Christian |
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| KT |
I received my TX's yesterday! Boy, am I excited!
A big thanks to everyone who mad the GB possible, and here's a quickie question regarding the transformers.
These are the TX-102 Mk III, right?
Is this the same thing as the TX-103 that I've seen referred to in some of the online documentation?
Also, both of my transformers have a very shallow dent on top near the edge. They're both the same size, about 1cm wide by 2 cm long. As they're both the same size and about in the same location, I'm assuming this is artifact of the manufacturing process. Nothing to worry about, right? Anyone else notice these on their transformers?
OK, good stuff! I won't get around to building mine for some time, but I can't wait to hear some comparisons between the TXs and what everyone was using before.
Best,
KT |
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| jonclancy |
Hi KT,
These are MK3 cans. The 103 is a different product. Here is the link to the product on the Stevens and Billington site:
http://www.stevens-billington.co.uk/page103.htm
My cans are stashed away at the moment so I can't get hold of them for comparison - however, I am sure that any manufacturing artifacts would not in any way degrade the sound.
HTH
Jon :) |
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| GaryB |
| quote: | Originally posted by KT
These are the TX-102 Mk III, right? |
Hi,
I just got my transformers today from Brian and pass along my thanks to the folks who made this possible.
I also now understand KT's question. My transformers came with an invoice from Brian listing them as TX-102 MK II transformers. I assume that this is just an error in the paper work and not an indication of us getting the leftovers.
Thanks,
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| jonclancy |
Hi Gary,
This will be a typo. The cans were ordered as MkIII and, as far as I know, were batch manufactured for this order.
Cheers
Jon |
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| Peter Daniel |
| quote: | Originally posted by KT
Also, both of my transformers have a very shallow dent on top near the edge. They're both the same size, about 1cm wide by 2 cm long. As they're both the same size and about in the same location, I'm assuming this is artifact of the manufacturing process. Nothing to worry about, right? Anyone else notice these on their transformers?
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Dents in transformer's housing are normal thing, some got more some less, but nothing to worry about. |
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| pooge |
| Are there any distinguishing characteristics that would enable one to determine whether a TX102 is version I, II, II.5, or III? |
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| Kuei Yang Wang |
Konnichiwa,
| quote: | Originally posted by pooge
Are there any distinguishing characteristics that would enable one to determine whether a TX102 is version I, II, II.5, or III? |
There are no external charateristics.
The MK1 is sufficiently rare that you probably do not have one. If the Transformers where produced before Mid 2004 they are generically MK2, which minor revision is very hard to say. If they where made after Mid 2004 they should be Mk3.
f you can measure the frequency response you might be able to distinguish them the ultrasonic behaviour differs somewhat.
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| fepie |
I am interested in a pair of Tx102.
There is someone interested to make me an offer?
I pay with Paypal.
Ciao |
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