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stef1777
Hi Folks!

I built years ago the TubeDAC from Sheldon Stokes. It use two PCM63-K Burr Brown DAC and 6DJ8 at output stage.

What should do we it? Trash it :dead: , use components to build something else or tweak it to obtain something better?
GeWa
Hi Stef1777

I also have built Sheldon's Big Dac in the past and until today I like the sound verry much. As an experiment I replaced the SRPP output stage with a Mu-Stage (input tube 30 and top tube D3a) and this was a great improvement in soundstage and detail.
I would not scrap it, it's a good piece of equipment.

Happy listening

Walter
Guido Tent
quote:
Originally posted by stef1777
Hi Folks!

I built years ago the TubeDAC from Sheldon Stokes. It use two PCM63-K Burr Brown DAC and 6DJ8 at output stage.

What should do we it? Trash it :dead: , use components to build something else or tweak it to obtain something better?

Hi

Don't trash

Sheldon's design is OK, to my opinion it deserves attention at jitter, look at

http://httpd.chello.nl/%7em.heijlig...html/dactop.htm

or

http://www.tentlabs.com/Products/DA...DACUpgrade.html

best regards
Elso Kwak
quote:
Originally posted by stef1777
Hi Folks!

I built years ago the TubeDAC from Sheldon Stokes. It use two PCM63-K Burr Brown DAC and 6DJ8 at output stage.

What should do we it? Trash it :dead: , use components to build something else or tweak it to obtain something better?

Hi Steff,
You can improve the digital inputreceiver by placing an AD8561 in front of it. And using the Wildmonkeysects loopfilter for the PLL of the CS8412. Also using a low noise analog supply for the PLL. You can also install my Asynchronous Reclocker. Schematic available on request. And last but not least you can modify the DAC to NON-OS. This will require a 74HC164 to get a normal sound output.
The combined effect of these measures will amaze you!
Though I prefer the TDA1543, the PCM63 is a good DAC similar in sound to the AD1865.
Cordialement,
:cool:
rlim
Guido,
"3ps rms, 3-sigma."
What does your spec actually mean? Isn't rms a 1 sigma number?

Thanks,
Richard
Guido Tent
quote:
Originally posted by rlim
Guido,
"3ps rms, 3-sigma."
What does your spec actually mean? Isn't rms a 1 sigma number?

Thanks,
Richard


No

sigma relates to distribution of Gausian ditributed phenomena, like noise

rms refers to a "weighting method" method in order to retrieve the enrgy from a random signal

cheers
Elso Kwak
Hi Steff,
See also:
http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl...ote&r=&session=
Salutations,
:cool:
rlim
quote:
Originally posted by Guido Tent



No

sigma relates to distribution of Gausian ditributed phenomena, like noise

rms refers to a "weighting method" method in order to retrieve the enrgy from a random signal

cheers


Please look up this pdf document and let me know what you think. Unless the pletronics is wrong in their analysis, 1 sigma without deterministic jitter sure sounds like an rms number to me.
http://www.pletronics.com/pdf/Determine%20PK.pdf

Perhaps you can let us know how you did the jitter measurement. That will clarify a lot of my confusion.

Thanks,
Richard
stef1777
Thanks for all answers.

I can see that I'll have a lot to tweak when my VRDS10 and DEQ2496 will be finished....
Guido Tent
quote:
Originally posted by rlim



Please look up this pdf document and let me know what you think. Unless the pletronics is wrong in their analysis, 1 sigma without deterministic jitter sure sounds like an rms number to me.
http://www.pletronics.com/pdf/Determine%20PK.pdf

Perhaps you can let us know how you did the jitter measurement. That will clarify a lot of my confusion.

Thanks,
Richard


Hi Richard

I now see your point
it should be 1 sigma, I'll dig up the typo at the website

thanks

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