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Duck-Twacy
Did they pay the royalties ? :D

Anyway nice amp
http://www.springair.org/d_19790_Na...PA_5_E45632.htm

Although...
http://www.springair.org/d_19815_Th...d_SA_245639.htm
reverber
IIRC, Nelson himself stated somewhere here that they paid quite handsomely, which probably makes him more able to be generous in sharing his IP with us.

Cody
altor
What Nelson's designes were used in these 2x150w and 2x200w
Clfss-A amplifiers?

It seems to me, that for the "pure class A" - both of these amps are too small, at least - the first (Nakamichi), am I right ?
roddyama
quote:
Originally posted by altor
What Nelson's designes were used in these 2x150w and 2x200w
Clfss-A amplifiers?

It seems to me, that for the "pure class A" - both of these amps are too small, at least - the first (Nakamichi), am I right ?
Both of the amps had a reputation for running hot, but not for failure.

Nak also used Nelsons design in a couple of receiver amps.
Duck-Twacy
I vaguely remember a Nak receiver. very stylish

Maybe it was this one

altor
quote:
Originally posted by roddyama

Both of the amps had a reputation for running hot, but not for failure.


Yea, but according to the size of the heatsink - I can't imagine that they are possible to dissipate (2x150)x3=~1kW.....
roddyama
quote:
Originally posted by altor


Yea, but according to the size of the heatsink - I can't imagine that they are possible to dissipate (2x150)x3=~1kW.....
Maybe not what you might call over kill, but enough to keep the amp alive.
altor
quote:
Originally posted by roddyama

Maybe not what you might call over kill, but enough to keep the amp alive.

Ohhhh! I bag Yor pardon!!!!

This is absolutly another view then at the German site - on this photo is clear the height of the amplifier.
On German's photo - it is much lower, and that why I ask a question.
Duck-Twacy
Roddyama's is the PA-70. Its looking a bit more serious imo

http://page.freett.com/knisi/pa-70.htm
moe29
that PA-70 is a cool looking amp!
roddyama
quote:
Originally posted by Duck-Twacy
Roddyama's is the PA-70. Its looking a bit more serious imo

http://page.freett.com/knisi/pa-70.htm

quote:
Originally posted by moe29
that PA-70 is a cool looking amp!
I guess I was a little misleading with the specs of the PA-5 and pic of the PA-7. Here's the PA-5.
Nelson Pass
I am not aware that any of the Nak Stasis amps were Class A,
having seen only high-bias AB models.
altor
quote:
Originally posted by Nelson Pass
I am not aware that any of the Nak Stasis amps were Class A,
having seen only high-bias AB models.

Thats what I/ve said.

BTW, Nelson, I've read at one russian site that "X-1000 amplifier works in a Class-A only below 128W".

Is it realy?! How it possible? As I understand, X-**** are Super Simmetric based SE amplifiers, how in possible run then in another then "A" ???


P.S. Sorry for my not so clear English, but I hope you understand about what I'm asking.

Regards, Alex.
SI
I have a Pa-5 and its rated at 100 wpc, I think the later version of the same amp with a little chasis mods PA-5II was rated at 150 wpc. The differance between Pa-7 and PA-7II were that the PA-7II had vents on the top panel and rated at 225 wpc instead of 200 wpc.

Regards.
SAAD//
Nelson Pass
quote:
Originally posted by altor
BTW, Nelson, I've read at one russian site that "X-1000 amplifier
works in a Class-A only below 128W"....As I understand, X-****
are Super Simmetric based SE amplifiers, how in possible run
then in another then "A" ???

The X series is Class AB, the XA series is Class A. The X1000
does about 125 (rms) in Class A, and twice that on peaks, both
figures into 8 ohms.
skilpad
I've owned a PA5 MKI for +/- 9 years and they do run very hot > 55C
They are not true class A but very close
They do sound great, the PA7 sounds even better
Could anyone please help me with sch info or a service manual
I intend to replace all the caps and generaly service the amp(PA5) but would like to re adjust the bais as per factory settings

Any help would be most welcome
roddyama
Skil,

Send the guy with this eBay auction (Techman777) an email. I've picked up a few Nak and NAD manuals from him.
skilpad
Hi Roddyama,
Thank you very much for the link
I have contacted "techman777"
Zodiac
The PA7 bias is measured between two prongs on each side of the amp, you have to take off the top cover, they are about 1/3 way from the front of the amp to the back.

Disconnect speakers and short the inputs. Turn on and leave for an hour or so to heat up.

There are two sets of pots in the amp. One set to adjust the bias, VR102/202 and one set to adjust the DC balance VR101/201.

Connect voltmeter across the two prongs and adjust the bias pot until you read 40mV. This is equivalent to an idling current of 40mA. I actually replaced the pots that were in my amp with multi-turn ones because I found the bias point very hard to set accurately.

Anyone who would like to exchange emails about renovating these amps drop me a pm as I am about to embark on this project and I did, once upon a time open up a thread. See "renovating a PA7", posted in the solid state forum.

;)

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