| jamesjung21 |
Which one is better as a free software?
In user friendly level...
And in technical functions etc...
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| jamesjung21 |
| Anyone? :scratch2: |
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| BrianGT |
| quote: | Originally posted by jamesjung21
Anyone? :scratch2: |
Eagle is a lot better, since it creates standard gerber files, allowing you to use multiple vendors. ExpressPCB is easier to use, but you are stuck to getting boards from them, or their parent subsidiary, PCBpro.
Eagle has many advanced features that ExpressPCB does not. Just think of ExpressPCB as being Notepad, and Eagle being a fully featured text editor.
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Brian |
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| jamesjung21 |
| Any other comments? :magnify: |
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| Alcaid |
Haven't got any other comments.
What BrianGT says.
I've tested both and staid with Eagle. :) |
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| Alcaid |
| One other thing is that you can send Eagle .brd files directly to www.olimex.com and they are cheap (not the quality, the price ;) ) |
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| Deuce |
| I'd suggest Diptrace, it's affordable, easy-to-follow (an important thing for beginners, eh?) and contains a lot of features other recognized packages do. Check their site for free version. |
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| BWRX |
| Eagle has a Mac OS X version so that's why I use it ;) plus it has a good interface. I like it better than OrCAD layout which I use at work. |
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| jamesjung21 |
Wow... took 2 years and 3 months to get more opinions to my question hehe :)
But unfortunately I lost my interest in solid state, so I no longer deal with PCB as often as what I used to... :rolleyes:
So, does Diptraceoffer international shipping for prototype...?
Who offers prototype boards with international shipping at most affordable price...?
I might have to order some PCBs for DHT filament regulator... |
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| ezkcdude |
| quote: | Originally posted by BWRX
Eagle has a Mac OS X version so that's why I use it ;) plus it has a good interface. I like it better than OrCAD layout which I use at work. |
I want to install Eagle Light on Mac OS X (10.7). I downloaded it, but I'm having trouble with the install. Are there any tricks to this? |
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| DJ Exprice |
Mac OS 10.7?!?!?! What are you talking about :eek:
The newest one com,ing out in august is 10.5 :rolleyes:
Anyway...back to the topic:
Eagle is an awesome program that is easy to use and is very user friendly. It is for Linux, PC, and Macintosh OS 10 or up.
Eagle seems like a good program for you. :cool: |
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| pinkmouse |
| quote: | Originally posted by ezkcdude
I want to install Eagle Light on Mac OS X (10.7). I downloaded it, but I'm having trouble with the install. Are there any tricks to this? |
Have you got X11 installed? |
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| ezkcdude |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Exprice
Mac OS 10.7?!?!?! What are you talking about :eek:
The newest one com,ing out in august is 10.5 :rolleyes:
Anyway...back to the topic:
Eagle is an awesome program that is easy to use and is very user friendly. It is for Linux, PC, and Macintosh OS 10 or up.
Eagle seems like a good program for you. :cool: |
Oops. I meant to say 10.4.7!
As for X11, shouldn't that already be installed? If not, what's the best way to go about doing it? |
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| Deuce |
As far as I know, DipTrace guys are very open for collaboration so most likely they'll be able to do what you want them to...
They also released 1.30 version in late October. |
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| DJ Exprice |
| Eagle has a lot of features that are really nice, and another thing is that it runs on Mac OS X without ANY hitches. :) |
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| mobyd |
| quote: | Originally posted by jamesjung21
Wow... took 2 years and 3 months to get more opinions to my question hehe :)
But unfortunately I lost my interest in solid state, so I no longer deal with PCB as often as what I used to... :rolleyes:
So, does Diptraceoffer international shipping for prototype...?
Who offers prototype boards with international shipping at most affordable price...?
I might have to order some PCBs for DHT filament regulator... |
www.custompcb.com is the cheapest and fedex to NZ is only about 12 bucks. They take Protel .pcb files (which everyone in Aus/NZ use anyway). Protel Autotrax is now free and it's a ripper.
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| jonclancy |
Hi,
The X11 files are on the Tiger install DVD. Install the developer tools for X11. There are some more tips in the readme you unzip from the TAR you downloaded. This is as far as I got - once I work out how to run X11, the rest should follow.
HTH a little.......
Jon |
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| jonclancy |
Hi,
X11 *is* on the Tiger Install DVD under (IIRC) Additional Packages. You need to scroll down the window to find it - I missed this initially!!!!:rolleyes: From there it's a double click to install.
I have X11 terminal running OK from Apps/utilities/X11, but it will not find the downloaded Eagle .tgz file when I run the commands in the Eagle Readme. Aslo the X11 help shows a - in front of the argument, which is different from the instructions in the readme file. The .tgz is sat on the desktop and also copied to the mac hd, but X11 cannot find it to unzip, or run the install prog from the unzipped folder I also have on the desktop. I suspect it's an obvious thing I've missed. I've had Eagle installed on my PC before and usually my Mac just installs things without me needing to do very much, so this is a bit confusing!!
Any tips gratefully received!!!
Cheers
Jon |
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| Pars |
Jon,
I just downloaded the .tgz for MacOSX and it decompressed itself to a .tar (not sure whether Stuffit did this). I then double-clicked on the .tar archive, and it unpacked itself into an Eagle folder on the desktop. Went into the bin directory and double-clicked on the Eagle application and voila... running under X11.
Chris |
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| Nordic |
Sounds like you need a degree to run a Mac. :hot:
Expresspcb is a toy compared to eagle.... |
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| jonclancy |
Well, if I looked in the right place......... :rolleyes:
After reading Chris' post, I had Eagle running in less than 30 secs - and that included wandering upstairs to find my MacBook.
Very many thanks - - !! :D I've spent a few days trying to work this one out and it was ready to go from the off. I think Cadsoft need to update the readme file...... I'll drop them a line.
Yay - Eagle on the move!! :cool:
Cheers
Jon :D |
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| impsick |
| Eagle!!! express pcb reminds me of dos. |
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| macboy |
| quote: | | Sounds like you need a degree to run a Mac. |
To be fair, Eagle for the MacOS isn't really a Mac applciation at all, it is a UNIX/X11 application. MacOS X is based on UNIX and it can run X11 ("X windows") software if the optional X11 package is installed first, but this is usually a last resort used by developers too lazy to port their software to a genuine MacOS application. Most UNIX type applications have an ugly install process, requiring the user to performs several steps from a command line, usually while logged in with super-user priveledges. Some are even distributed as source code and require the user to compile the software on their own system before installing. Yuck. Don't blame Apple for that... it's old-school UNIX at work.
Most MacOS apps are "installed" by simply dragging an icon from the CD or DVD-ROM or the downloadable disk image to wherever you want to store it on your hard drive, then you just double click the new icon to run it. Usually there is no install process like on Windows (or UNIX!). No files are copied or modified in your system directories, and no 'registry' needs updating.
Back on topic, in my opinion, someone new to both Eagle and ExpressPCB would be better off learning to use Eagle. It might have a steeper learning curve, but you can have your boards made absolutely anywhere. And you can share your Eagle board designs with other DIY'ers if you want to. |
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