| mikejz84 |
Well I did it! I made the big move!
I am a pround owner of a Sony 1271Q CRT Projector.
All I can say is WOW!!
I traded a local man my pair of NHT 2.5i speakers (est value of speakers $650) for the projector.
The projector only has about 650 hours on it!
All I can say is I am done with digital for the forseeable future, this monster smokes them. It is also brighter then my 600lumen digital projector. I LOVE IT!!!
DIY LCD is fun, but if you find a nice CRT grab it!! |
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| dracul |
| What diy setup are you comparing it to? What are you noticing as a dramatic improvement? What is the resolution of the CRT? Also does it use pixels or lines to display the image? |
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| Negative Design |
yeah mike congradulations! Welcome to the DARK SIDE! where blacks are blacker...:mafioso:
I saw your thread on AVS, you got reallll lucky man,I made my move to CRT a couple of months ago im now on my 4th CRT I love converging ..fun stuff man:)
Hey do you have any pics of them in action mike?
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| mikejz84 |
What is better:
Contrast: MUCH Better!! Detail during dark senes in movies is improved grealy.
Noise: Almost none, a few quite fans.
I would say it is better then any DIY display I have seen. I would say it is better then the $6,000 DLP projector I recently saw.
Resolution is not so much of an issue with CRT, There is no screen door. and it can Sync to just about everything--the question is can it resolve the lines. I have put HDTV 1080i and 720p and it does a nice job with both. A CRT projector is just like a CRT TV or Computer monitor, it uses an electron gun to draw the image. Except with a CRT pj, each tube is for just one color--so there is no grill to limit resolution. |
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| mikejz84 |
No pics of the setup yet. Right now I am waiting on a JP-1 cable that order so that I can program my remote to control the projector. I plain on rasing up my couch and putting the projector underneath, but I need full remote control before I can do this.
I should have some pics up as soon as everything is up and working. |
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| Negative Design |
kool, hey did you know you can control your unit with your pc?
most CRTs have this ability, all my barcos do. |
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| mikejz84 |
My 1271 has an RS-422 port on it, I could control it from my PC, but I would need to build an adaptor. The JP-1 seems like the right solution for right now.
ESP when I just want to watch 480i without my PC being on. |
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| Negative Design |
oh i see, the RS-422 is just a normal serial cable right?
my Barco G8 has "RS-332" and my friend says he uses a nornal serial cable to connect it to the PC.I'm not too familiar with the JP-1 though.
anywho keep us updated :)
-ND |
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| Negative Design |
ohhhh I see, kool.
BTW, will you be using an HDTV source? I think I saw you on the HDTV forums im not sure. |
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| mikejz84 |
Yeah, I use a MyHD PCI Hdtv tuner card (OTA).
The new beta drivers for the card also support DVD playback, and it has very good PQ. |
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| Negative Design |
oh yeah I rememebr the thread now lol.
Nice man maybe you can give me some info on HDTV cards...I'm on a search a good ..and cheap :) |
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| mikejz84 |
I use the MyHD MDP-100 tuner card in my computer.
The card can be had for about $200 on ebay.
It comes with a remote and IR receiver. The IR reciever also works with Girder, however now that the software does DVD playback I do not need to mess with girder anymore--I have one program that does everything, In adition I can control the program on my computer monitor, while the card outputs the video seperately.
The card can output both RGB and component video at 720x480i 720x480p 864x480 800x600p 1024x768p 1280x720p 1280x1024p 1360x768p 1440x1080i 1920x1080i
I use it with a Zenith Silver Sensor antenna, and get fair results.
Also the DVD playback requires that you use another program to crack the copy protection on the disk (because the card scales the video, the MyHD people could not get a lisense for the DVD copy protection). Check out the HTPC section of AVS for more info. |
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| Negative Design |
whoa, Now im jealous man..lol you have an EM focus machine AND HDTV :( lol
200$ is a fiar price I think...my dumb step dad just removed my satellite to go back to cable...so now I can't receive HD signals anymore! :( I had 13 HBOs and alot of them were HDTV and Digital 5.1 too.. I doubt I will get the same with cable..
man your card sounds really nice, it has RGB too! wow. Im definitely gonna get it :) ..as soon as I find a decent HDTV signal source. |
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| mikejz84 |
| The MyHD card only works with Over-the-Air HD signals (Antenna). |
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| Negative Design |
oh I see,I will do some more reading on it.
thanks. |
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| mikejz84 |
| also the 1271 is not EM |
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| Negative Design |
| oh,Sorry I misread it. |
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| dracul |
| quote: | | A CRT projector is just like a CRT TV or Computer monitor, it uses an electron gun to draw the image. Except with a CRT pj, each tube is for just one color--so there is no grill to limit resolution |
My understanding is that standard CRT tvs (non hdtv) use lines to display the image while hdtv or computer monitors use pixels.
So it sounds like your CRT projector uses pixels since its high end
but I saw a crt projector and it showed lines. There was no line doubler or running through a pc. It looked like **** compared to the worst lcd projector I saw.
Cant wait to see your pix. |
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| dracul |
| quote: | | also the 1271 is not EM |
What is EM ? |
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| Negative Design |
you will see lines on any projector if your using a bad source,CRTs dont have pixels,Mike's explanation is right.
drac didn't I show you some pics when we were chatting? I have pix if u wanna see :) |
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| Negative Design |
| there are 2 types of focus for CRTs ES, electrostatic and EM, Electromagnetic.Long story short EM beats ES,EM is supposed to be ULTRA high end it will make your image SUPER focused and sharp. |
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| Duo |
Just wanted to mention, in reply to the last post, that RS-422 is not standard on most computers. RS-232 is the type used on modern machines..
Just wanted to make sure that was known. Hope no one else already stated it. ;) |
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| dracul |
| quote: | | you will see lines on any projector if your using a bad source,CRTs dont have pixels,Mike's explanation is right. |
I ment I saw scanning lines. I dont remember any photos about CRT you showed. Can you let me see them?| quote: | | Just wanted to mention, in reply to the last post, that RS-422 is not standard on most computers. RS-232 is the type used on modern machines.. |
This again is over my head. What are you talking about please? |
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| mikekniner |
| Just wondeirng, why has the production of CRT projection systems stopped and DLP, LCD Lcos increased? Just curious. |
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| mikejz84 |
CRT production has stoped because CRTs where mainly used by goverment and business for presentations---In an age before LCD projectors.
Also CRTs are used for very high end stuff (3-D simulations, Simulators, etc)
With Digital projectors advantages (Small size, lower cost....) Corporate owners and goverment replaced there existing projectors with the new ones.
There is just one problem: CRTs still kick a lot of ***! In terms of PQ a CRT can not be beat.
If this where where not so why are there threads over at AVSfourm in the ultra-high end digital projector fourm asking when a digital will be as good as a CRT.
The advantage of a CRT is simple: Bang for buck!
The CRT I have orginally came from a Unversity that paided $21,000 for it! On the used market it is worth about $1000.
The fact that CRTs are big, heavy, and a pain to set up is a great thing because it results in them being very cheap as compated to a digital one. For those that are willing to invest the time to set up a CRT they are rewarded with a picture that is world-class.
P.s. Electrohome and Barco are still making CRT projectors. |
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| Negative Design |
Yeah, I'd like to add VDC Seleco and Runco...well ok Barco makes Runcos...and VDC bought electrohome...but ya get the idea :) I think I heard of a few more companies making CRTs but I can't rememebr em all now.
There are a million threads about this on AVS.. but they always end up in an argument..:(
anywho let me summarize a few points from what some have said.CRTs cost a lot more to make and ship then the smaller DLP/LCD tech wave.It all comes down to profit...size matters yes but I dont belive thats why they died,CRTs have been here since the late 60's(CRT projectors that is)I'd imagine they were a lot bigger back then..lol,If the weight was such a big issue they would of died a long time ago,It cost more than half what it takes to make a CRT to make an LCD so the big businesses are taking avdantage of it.
ND
oh yeah, Dracul RS 432 and RS 232 are the model numbers of CRT remote connections of their respective manufactorers :) |
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| dracul |
You guys got me convinced to buy a second hand crt with low hours the only one problem is they dont seem to be available here as abundantly as ebay in the usa. If I buy from the us I would pay more for shipping than the actual projector. I would also have to pay 60% duty on it.
Is there any way to build one using 150mm diameter lenses and 3 flatscreen monitors set to different colors or with filters in front? |
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| mikejz84 |
Finding a CRT projector is not easy
I looked for one for over a year and a half before I found one locally.
Its best to educate yourself as much as you can about them, so that when you do come across one you will know what to look for. |
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| Negative Design |
| sorry dracul you cant make a CRT projector easily...if it was that eay we all would be making them instead of paying hundreds and thousands :) |
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| Duo |
Dracul: Sorry if I confused you, RS 422 and 232 are standards for serial ports on computers and electronic devices.
A few posts back, someone mentioned that they thought RS 422 was standard on most computers. I was just stating that 232 is the standard.
The two standards are similar, but just use different wiring schemes and configurations.
I hope this clarifies what I'm talking about. |
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| Negative Design |
| hmmm... on a side note... hey duo are you a GunDam fan;) nice site btw :) |
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| Duo |
Yes, I am a Gundam Wing fan, since quite a while now too.
Thankyou about the site. Would you care to join? I'm trying to get more users on there in hopes to get the forums running.
I would greatly appreciate if you came in and created an account for yourself...;)
Thanks. |
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| Negative Design |
sure, this will be my 17th membership...lol im apart of many forums.I dont know if I will have the time to participate,But im honored you asked :) (Btw I love Gundam! WingZer0 has been my screen name for YEARS! lol) :D
Not many ppl know this but.. WingZer0 IS ...the "Negative Design" hehehe |
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| Duo |
| Thankyou. Yes, Gundam Wing is one of the only shows worth watching on our many hundreds of channels now. I have seen every episode multiple times and of course the Endless Waltz, which I really enjoy. I have that on the computer as well. |
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| Negative Design |
Yeah me too but my endless walts is Low Quality :-/ where did you get yours from?
what about animes do you like, feel free to email me |
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| Negative Design |
hi harvey, I thought you already had a CRT? well in my opinion 2700$ is the most I'd go but you can get a Marquee 8000 for cheaper if your lucky,that G70 is the second best Sony CRT and its very HQ so its worth it,The guy siad it will last 10,000 HRs and up so it probably has new tubes,you can tel buy looking at the tube faces if it is fresh and 0 burns then its most likely new or l a low hours unit.
I attached an image of nice tubes if you see anything similir ro this than your getting a long lasting unit :) |
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| harvey |
| Thanks very much ND . |
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| Negative Design |
| sure,No problem :) |
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| reclaimdead |
| well CRT is really fascinating me but one thing is that after 10,000 hrs when u run outta tube how much does it cost to replace em? I mean it must be quite a fortune considering thats its no lamp but a tube |
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| Negative Design |
well this is a downside all projectors face,replacement parts usually cost more than the projectors themselves...unless you got connections.
for replacement tubes it depends on the model, for my current CRT its 50$ each tube if ur lucky u can get them super cheap on ebay.for that sony G70 its around 1,000-1,500$ per tubes..lol
some have more $$
so consider it like this.. each LCD/DLP light is 200-400 and up but u replace them faster so the costs can go near and sometimes surpass CRTs price,CRTs are known for lasting up to 30 years or more that 10,000 hour time is just a base estimate and at highest peak lumens if you lower your lumens and contrast then you will significantly increase the tubes life,If you lower a 18,000:1 contrast unit to its lowest you still get a beautiful image,Also no matter how many hours your tubes have if its clean and have little burn in it will last at least 7,000$
I hope that helped :)
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| mikekniner |
| ND, becarful what u say in here, people want honest answers and not favourable ****, if i were to post this in the avs forum it would be so laughed at its not funny, i have a best buddy who is a tech in these things and crts are not reliable as u think, its not only tubes u have to replace but now cos of their age pcbs aswell that run into the thousands, also for u to get a tube for $50 it cant be new, its an overhaul. thats talking from a guy who has been working with crts for years and still is. For you to get a tube for 50 bucks it can't be brand new :( . So please mind what you post, but you can proove me wrong if your talking from a technical background but I doubt you can proove my buddy wrong who has been in this field for years. Now that concludes my outburst of built up frustration. |
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| Negative Design |
?? whats this about?
I didn't say ALL CRT are reliable..I'm currently replacing 3 Boards on my barco G801s, EHTs are common failures...i said nothing about reliability nor boards on my earlier post,laugh if you will ...free country..You may not belive I can get tubes for 50 but wil you belive I got 3 CRTs for under 700$ shipped and all have new tubes...
also,I paid 150$ total for my replacement boards...
wheres "favourable" **** come from, jeez man if your gonna flame me all the time just pelase ignore me,leave me alone. |
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| JetGuy |
I have seen tubes sell for $50 or so on e-bay. They are usually used and more than likely a red tube. the greens and blues wear out much faster than the red's do from what I have been told.
Greens and blues usually command a higher price depending on who needs them. I have a buddy that is looking for a decent blue SD-187 sony tube for an Ampro 2000. He was bidding on a blue one out of a conplete set on e-bay, he lost the bid and the ending price was about $145 or so. The other two went for much less. I think that same tube is about $300 rebuilt from VDC. Although I could be wrong. |
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| ace3000_1 |
ND for a guy who has been with crt's for 5mins and is talking as though they know it all and is telling a person who wants some honest answers outrageous stories then i dont blame mike for going off, u might beable to get the tubes for $50 but will the other guy? tubes that cost $50 are refubished tubes, this is a fact, also u guys in here havnt mentioned the reliability of crt's now that they are getting old, this is in the avs forums with board prices to match and they arent cheap, i have seen this in the past and its one reason i wouldnt buy a crt but thats my personal choice and realy my personal choice doesnt matter in this case, ive seen people complain that they have spent $7k on a $3k crt in boards and tubes and shipping in the avs forum, this was a while ago and no im not going to waste my time to search for it to post up here when i have other things to do, but look in the avs forums and its in there alright, just have a good search, just because u hear somthing from one person it doesnt mean its the right answer or thing to say, i think mike is abit ****ed cos some things u have said have been false weather u know of this or not, and he may have taken it in a non diy one sided crt all the way baby kind of way.
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| Negative Design |
| quote: | Originally posted by Negative Design
well this is a downside all projectors face,replacement parts usually cost more than the projectors themselves...unless you got connections.
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Ok now read what I said...Im not having another ego battle,you can continue,I want nothing to do with neither of you.
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| ace3000_1 |
| quote: | | well this is a downside all projectors face,replacement parts usually cost more than the projectors themselves...unless you got connections. |
And hence the age of crt projectors they are more prone to wear and tear, its that simple lol |
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| mikejz84 |
My tubes have a good 10,000-15,000 left on them
That about 4 hours a day for over 6 years at a minimum.
Also here is a pic of my crt setup
(Can you tell I'm a college student?:D ) |
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| ace3000_1 |
nice mike, i take it u got long leggs lol
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| nmd_sb |
hey negative,
your thumnail pics on the site dont expand.
are the tubes in that projector, same as the CRT in PC monitors? if so how does it project a image so bright? if one was to take a POS(Point of Service not Piece Of $hit :) ] 7" color monitor and use a copy lens or similar, would they achieve similar or close results? |
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| Negative Design |
Hi Nmb :)
Sorry...the pic do not expand I will try to work more on the site and my pictures to fix that,im new to verizon webbuiding as well.
The CRT tubes share similiar technology as the one in CRT monitors but the ones in CRTs have splitters and tube amps(sorry I forgot the exact name) a normal monitor has an EHT that directs voltage to one tube,but projectors have a splitter that sends high voltage to each and the amp increases that signal.
CRT monitors and TVs dont suffer from burn in like monitors do...
oh and also I tried that lens thing its garbage..trust me..lol
even ace and mikekniner will agree with em on this one.
P.S Nmb I noticed that you are from NY ,what part r u from? |
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| ace3000_1 |
| quote: | | oh and also I tried that lens thing its garbage..trust me..lol |
What lens is this? the copy lens? |
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| Negative Design |
| I think hes reffering to the 100" tv thing but with monitors. |
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| ace3000_1 |
| yeah i wouldnt even use one of those things for a coaster lol, good toy for the dog |
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| multiplexor |
| quote: | Originally posted by Negative Design
Hi Nmb :)
Sorry...the pic do not expand I will try to work more on the site and my pictures to fix that,im new to verizon webbuiding as well.
The CRT tubes share similiar technology as the one in CRT monitors but the ones in CRTs have splitters and tube amps(sorry I forgot the exact name) a normal monitor has an EHT that directs voltage to one tube,but projectors have a splitter that sends high voltage to each and the amp increases that signal.
CRT monitors and TVs dont suffer from burn in like monitors do...
oh and also I tried that lens thing its garbage..trust me..lol
even ace and mikekniner will agree with em on this one.
P.S Nmb I noticed that you are from NY ,what part r u from? |
hmmm so your saying my CRT monitor i use for my computer at home will not suffer burnin? I'll have to check cause last i remember, they also suffered burnin. Though I believe they take longer than regular crt projectors to burnin.
tv's also burnin... ever see arcade machines. They tv's are useless once they are done with :( |
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| Negative Design |
Hey, it was a tpypo.
Correction,CRT monitors and TVs dont suffer from burn in like projectors do.What I meant is that monitors take longer to burn and have many preventive solutions to help this,IE: Screen savers :)
Thats what I meant. |
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| ace3000_1 |
| quote: | | I'll have to check cause last i remember, they also suffered burnin. |
Heya multi, yeah monitors burn in alright but it takes a while, there is a bank down the road from here with a crt in the cash machine and the burn in on that is terrible from it displaying the welcome screen 24/7 lol, plasma is suposed to be the worst type of display for burn in, so ive heard, this is for home use too! so they must be sensitive.
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| multiplexor |
| quote: | Originally posted by Negative Design
Hey, it was a tpypo.
Correction,CRT monitors and TVs dont suffer from burn in like projectors do.What I meant is that monitors take longer to burn and have many preventive solutions to help this,IE: Screen savers :)
Thats what I meant. |
oh, cool cool. That's what i figured... I was wondering for a second there.. :D hehe
No problemo.
hey question while you guys are here... do crt projectors have any degauss features built in? incase a magnet or something goes near them? |
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| Negative Design |
| Sorry I'm not too familiar with aspect..yet,But im pretty sure the more higher ones have it.Liek the ones in production today...man I wish I had one :D |
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| ace3000_1 |
They should do multi, but as nd said i wouldnt think all of them do, i dont think the realy old ones would anyway, im sure there is another way to demagnitise a tube if u have a magnetic problem, i did read it in the audio section of this board a while ago but its been a while so ive forgotten, i think its regarding using a negative pole on a magnent to take the positive magnitisim out or u have to buy a special magnent to do such an operation.
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| Negative Design |
Multiplexor,
On a sidenote, I'd like to know what you think about the many ummm.. lets say "Non DIY" projector threads and topics/issues popping up recently.Do you think it is appropriate? Or should they cease and decist.
I personally think this section as a Projector section,And I'd like to too see all types not only DIY...but many feel otherwise.
Many say non diy doesnt belong here,but "video" doesnt belong here either since this site was originally just DiyAudio.com Video is a recent addition(to my knowledge).I believe there MUST be other projector types here a one dimensional aspect would umm..suck..lol what would you compare your DIY projects with if there are no commercial units?
Also, I'd like to end this by saying this is NOT an argument please no one respond with flames.
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| harvey |
bottom line is, I need high resolution, high contrast ... And only CRT can do it for now .
DIY LCD projector isn't bright enough . And for high res, you probably will have to put 4 DIY together . |
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| Negative Design |
hmmm..I'm not bashing DIY, DIY is great but entering DIY we should all now this is just a beggining phase and one must update and most do,look back a year form now many members are gone probably updated to better unit,and I've seen at least 15 people on AVS forum who were members here and thats the oens who keep their old screen name.
not many people here still using a projection panel for more than 6-8 months.LCD monitors are the level up from panels and this new Liquid vision/CMV is the latest one and I may get one soon to see for myself how good it is :)
Theres only so high DIY can go I believe we should not just stay in stage one.
I'd love to get that new LCD cruser has but it would cost more than a CRT and even more than an X1 in many cases. |
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| harvey |
| Is it possible to have a DIY LCD pic quality same as CRT ? I don't think it could ever achieve that high contrast . What do you think ND ? |
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| Negative Design |
whoaaa... well Mr. Harvey I don't like the word "never" lol
Hey imagine 50 years from now...just image where lcds will be if they are still here...5 years even So...my point is never say never :) lol I belive before this decade is over(or much sooner) LCD,DLP and the others will destroy CRTs.
But for the time being CRT is king :)
If no commercial unit in production for home use cant beat CRT then DIY wont either.
DIY is not meant to contend with CRTs they are for LCDs.I read many threads of people saying their LCD monitor can compete and sometimes beat commercial LCD units of a certain price, and thats why I experimented with 2 LCD unit I had one VG150 and I bought Protos NEC.
btw Harvey were you the winner of that G70!!?? if so...NICE!!! :D |
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| harvey |
Well, no
The guy in Germany did . But he probably bought to resell . If he doesn't want it, I'll buy it . But I think since I posted that here, somebody probably went ahead of me and offer the guy something. He didn;t get back to me anymore .
There is one on EBAY right now from Unite Kingdom that claim to have brand new tubes . Wonder ho much it cost to ship it to US . |
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| Negative Design |
uh oh...form the UK?
is his ID "teckra"
or does it Say UK/NY in his location?
Of so then hes a scammer.There was a thread about him on AVS,He was selling a NEW Barco Cine 7...do you know how rare is it !!?? wow.. and also it is RARE to find brand new CRT projectors and he find the rarest AND in new condition with free shipping to anywhere in thwe world..lol
also watchout for the 0 "feedback guy"
he has liek 4 ids on ebay and selling 50 items all over 7K$ and all free shipping..I dont kow if those auctions are still open.Luckily theres a good guy helping us,his ebay id is "I_only_bid_on_Fraudulent_auctions" lol if u see him bidding do NOT bid.
Good luck :) |
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| harvey |
LOL, ND ... Cool story.
Anyway, I saw the spec on one Ampro CRT projector, and the contrast is only ANSI 150:1, why so low / |
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| Negative Design |
lol I seen that one, Its probably a typo it make 0 sense.
Ampros make some of the best CRTs they created the first CRT the novabeam..AMPRO bough Klaus...wow sorry for th boring story :) lol
Hmm.. if you want a nice CRT you can email me I have a few I will be willing to let go got cheap :) |
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| harvey |
| Anything high resolution you have ? |
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| Negative Design |
I have a mid range one with new tubes.
SXGA native. 725 lumens Digital convergence, 15,000:1 its among the lighter ones too..lol around 100 LBS Electrohome ECP 4000
0 burns I will get you pix later on if interested,but for now I have to go somewhere my email is posted in my profile feel free to contact me :)
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| ace3000_1 |
| quote: | | bottom line is, I need high resolution, high contrast ... And only CRT can do it for now . |
harvey, depending on $ there are far more seperior tech projectors then crt, have a read around on the forum, lumens doesnt matter either unless your going to be watching the projector in a high ambience lighted atmosphere, 300lumens or better is great for a dark room with low anbience lighting, 1000+ lumens becomes too bright for a dark room and hurts your eyes, and is only good for a room that has ambient lighting.
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| cruser |
I tryed and i tryed not to post in this thread but its out of controll now
1st this is a diy-fourm not diy vs comercial
2nd its not about my projector being better than your projector
its about accomplishment and the satisfaction of building it your self NO MATTER WHAT THE RESULTS.
3rd if your gonna compare projectors you have to compare apples to apples= thats diy to diy not comercial pj's
sure comercial pj results are the goal to strive twords but you cannot get the 15000-20000 contrast that crt provides so it has no place in this fourm unless you build one and post your designs
"unless your trying to resell them" and use this foum as a personal advertisement for your auctions.
crt should be left on the avs fourm
dlp still way to advanced for diy unless your retro fitting lamps. dlp can not be used as a comparison to diy-projectors.
lcd now we are talking that looks more like my apple, and i have seen comercial units and we can definetly compete with some of them costing manytimes more
now all this smack about comercial projectors being better than diy just scares ppl away how in the hell are we gonna advance if ppl run everytime they read this kind of post. use your head and instead of promoting comercial projectors on this fourm start building and someday we might be able to compete with comercial units damn!!! whats wrong with ppl.
again im sorry if this sounds rude its not meant to be ,but use your heads ppl all these post do is hurt the diy comunity. |
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| Negative Design |
hmmm, the only DIY worth looking at is yours Cruser, no one will beat your designs so actually,YOU are the community.. err nevermind..I will not speak of CRTs anymore C I take your wisdom,
but I woudl like to clear one thing up I am N O T advertiaing CRTs for sale harvey asked so I made HIM a personal offer Im not making threads or asking for stickies.I dont mine criticm but please don't label me as advertiser,many have said it as if I invented the thing lol
I repsect you C and I consider you one of my "homies" thats why im not offended, we spoke about this before so its kool.
I'm not scaring anyone,Before I got Into DIY I knew it was inferior I'm willing to say 99% to 100% even, know its inferior to commercials so the scaring can't be attributed to me or other commercial users. |
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| ace3000_1 |
| quote: | | hmmm, the only DIY worth looking at is yours Cruser, no one will beat your designs so actually,YOU are the community.. |
ehhhrrrmmm, didnt cruser mention somthing about compairing in the last post or am i seeing things? |
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| Negative Design |
| I say that to cruser all the time it was a friendly joke.. |
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| ace3000_1 |
I think u have hit it right on the mark cruser, this forum is all about doing it yourself, this can be repairs, custom building, making things out of things that are intended for other things ect, its about ideas and acheivements, not comparing nor pro gear (unless its a repair), it should be about , well done johnny u done a good job on that cardboard box speaker amp, not mines better then yours cos mines made out of alloy kind of thing, people should realise of other acheivments and learn from them, not bash them, there is alot of hard work in here that people dont see, this stuff isnt just slapped up in 5mins, as this is a diy video forum there should be this:
diy repair
diy modds
diy custom
diy lcd projectors (because thats what we can make at this stage)
anything to do with video including crt's, tv's, vcr's, dvd's, htpc's, projectors ect but only for diy repair and only for diy building, no comparison for home made gear to pro gear, its quite obvious a lcd has its limitations, oh and so does crt on a side note, but realy at the end of the day its not what its all about, its about acheiving somthing that we have wanted to learn, and have made our ideas on paper come to a reality, so if u realy want my opinion, i dont care about pro projectors and its not what im here for, its a diy forum and lets keep it this way, as for people selling stuff in here that can be good and bad, hard to find parts is always good, i dont think ebay is such a good idea in here as its upto people to search ebay for deals themselfs, just rememnber where u are and why your here guys, lets all stay happy and get on with our projects.
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| Negative Design |
hmm great points, I agree with this method of criticism instead of your last one which involved meaningless name calling.
I agree,No more CRT posting for me.
But in theory there should be no OHP+LCD threads either since thats not true DIY,any way that doesnt matter.Maybe I shold just leave. |
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| ace3000_1 |
| quote: | | I agree with this method of criticism instead of your last one which involved meaningless name calling. |
lol are u serious? when did i name call? |
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| Negative Design |
...u edited it, most of your posts on that thread was edited....
doesnt matter now thats old news. |
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| ace3000_1 |
| quote: | | u edited it, most of your posts on that thread was edited.... |
It was edited cos of my crappy typing errors lol not cos of name calling, thats some serious paranoia u got there man.
Trev:) |
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| Negative Design |
haha you call me stupid,said I know nothing aout projectors, you said I had CRT for 5 mins and I think i'm the master.
C'mon man I may be "stupid" but even a stupid guy knows you can't say 3 sententences without a bad word..lol I know you have a dirty mouth lol |
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| ace3000_1 |
| well nd u can think and make up what u like, you are only damaging yourself, tell me somthing, this isnt being in a nasty way or anything but its a question out of couriosity, why do u always have to have the last word? its incredible how u have to say somthing all of the time rather then to just let it be, the tiff we had the otherday is history, im not fussed by it nor u, im over it, and yet i see u picking everything word for word in the posts since that tiff not only in mine but others too, your acting like an old lady, get over it and get on with it. As for me editing take a look at all of my last posts in this whole forum, i can garentee u that over 60% have been edited by me cos of typo erros, or ive added more info into that post. |
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| MovLab |
| quote: | Originally posted by ace3000_1
well nd u can think and make up what u like, you are only damaging yourself, tell me somthing, this isnt being in a nasty way or anything but its a question out of couriosity, why do u always have to have the last word? its incredible how u have to say somthing all of the time rather then to just let it be, the tiff we had the otherday is history, im not fussed by it nor u, im over it, and yet i see u picking everything word for word in the posts since that tiff not only in mine but others too, your acting like an old lady, get over it and get on with it. As for me editing take a look at all of my last posts in this whole forum, i can garentee u that over 60% have been edited by me cos of typo erros, or ive added more info into that post. |
Hi Ace: It Seems To Me CRT Projection Belongs In The AVS Forum, Not Here... Cruser And You Are Indeed Right in Your Posts...
Some People Have A Lot To Learn In Life, But I Think He Knows Who He Is...
Let's Consider This Thread Dead Now...
MovLab :) |
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| KBK |
CRT projectors don't have degaussing in them,and as far as I know, I've never seen or needed to do that to one.
My personal record is 14 CRT projectors in my living room at one time. I had them stacked on their sides. I have owned and heavily modified NEC amd ELectrohome units. Marquee series, etc.
I have two Sony 1292 9" units (about 200lbs each!) on my living room floor right now. I am modifying them for two different people. these will be the last CRT units I modify. I'm trying to track down and fix the infamous Sony 1292 streaking problem. |
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